General Yuzuru Chat

[micaelis]

27 minutes ago, MajaHled said:

I was watching parts of the gala on the TV on Eurosport today. My step sister came in and watched with me for a while (she doesn't know anything about FS) and when Yuzu appeared, she was like: is that a guy or a girl...? She's like that age gender app thingy that keeps saying yuzu is an 18 year old girl And then she went on and said his movements are very female-like. So I wanted to show her something manlier. I thought Seimei and LGC would do the trick. They didn't, she still said it was girly 

The fact that Yuzu has an androgynous face is not something most of us haven't noticed, but I think you might have chosen a better example, PW from Sochi, the SP version, not the team version.  LGC might have worked but the costume there is not overly masculine.  The bright blue shirt and Yuzu's own mannerisms in the PW performance I think are overwhelmingly masculine, what I have termed to others when discussing the performance and choreography - a young buck strutting his stuff.  If it wasn't impractical because of stiffness and weight, a black leather biker's jacket,  partially zipped, would have really clinched the argument.  I did note in an earlier post that Yuzu has an almost archetypical anime face, with the inverted triangle for the shape, which is fairly androgynous.  The thing is that Yuzu has those particular kinds of male features that are 'beautiful' rather than 'handsome'.  Compare him to Takahashi and you can see what I mean.  It is, in fact, those features he possesses which will have people thinking he's barely out of his teens when he's entering his forties.  He'll be greatly envied then.

[yuzuangel]

27 minutes ago, MrPudding said:

 

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[yuzuangel]

12 minutes ago, micaelis said:

The thing is that Yuzu has those particular kinds of male features that are 'beautiful' rather than 'handsome'.  

 

I think he's both beautiful and handsome.

[Yoa]

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[singcarcom]

25 minutes ago, MajaHled said:

I was watching parts of the gala on the TV on Eurosport today. My step sister came in and watched with me for a while (she doesn't know anything about FS) and when Yuzu appeared, she was like: is that a guy or a girl...? She's like that age gender app thingy that keeps saying yuzu is an 18 year old girl And then she went on and said his movements are very female-like. So I wanted to show her something manlier. I thought Seimei and LGC would do the trick. They didn't, she still said it was girly 

 

Yuzu is the only person I know to be very pretty and handsome at the same time! Here are some photos and gifs...if she's not convinced then there's nothing you can do. =P
 

 

 

 

And...Seimei starring as a Jedi 

[GreatLakesGal]

49 minutes ago, MajaHled said:

I was watching parts of the gala on the TV on Eurosport today. My step sister came in and watched with me for a while (she doesn't know anything about FS) and when Yuzu appeared, she was like: is that a guy or a girl...? She's like that age gender app thingy that keeps saying yuzu is an 18 year old girl And then she went on and said his movements are very female-like. So I wanted to show her something manlier. I thought Seimei and LGC would do the trick. They didn't, she still said it was girly 

 

Perhaps your sibling is just trying to annoy you?

 

You should show her that photo of him surrounded by all those gorgeous female skaters. 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

55 分ぐらい, MajaHledさんが言いました:

I was watching parts of the gala on the TV on Eurosport today. My step sister came in and watched with me for a while (she doesn't know anything about FS) and when Yuzu appeared, she was like: is that a guy or a girl...? She's like that age gender app thingy that keeps saying yuzu is an 18 year old girl And then she went on and said his movements are very female-like. So I wanted to show her something manlier. I thought Seimei and LGC would do the trick. They didn't, she still said it was girly 

 

SEIMEI didn't work? I'm beginning to think her idea of girly is non-traditionally masculine aka Fernandez, Chan etc. I don't think her mind can be changed unless she sits down and gets to know his character. I mean, I only really found him to be just as manly as others, more so in fact, after I realized what his character is like. But I'm guessing her sitting down and studying the character of some guy with a girly face and a slender figure to match doing a sport that isn't reputed to be the most testosterone-fueled isn't something that's going to happen. Take one more shot with COC 14 FS and see what she says? If she still stubbornly refuses to see it, then let her wallow in her blindness and ignorance, I say. >_<

[MajaHled]

Yeah, I don't think I'll convince her She is knows a thing or two about dancing, and she said his movements (rather than his face really) are very feminine, especially this arm movements. So that's why I thought Seimei would work, since the movements there are kinda sharper and less, how to put it, flowy? But she still sees it there no matter what  And  yeah, LGC probably wasn't the best choice, since PPOS do make his hips look very wide, even more so compared to his not so wide shoulders, she especially pointed it out on the final spin position. And the other skaters she saw were mostly guys from pairs, so I think she might have a different idea than me about what an average skater looks like. Well, whatever, I'll leave her to her opinion 

 

ETA: No point in arguing really, but she did start it when she was laughing all throughout Notte Stellata 

[OonsieHui]

This might sound off and I promise I'm not being racist or stereotypical, but @MajaHled are you (and hence your sister) by any chance caucasian/european?

 

As an Asian living in the UK, I've realised from conversations with local friends that many male Asian features just look much more distinctly feminine then an Asian might see it being. Probably due to the marked difference in facial bone structure for the general causcasian/european male (or female really!) just being MUCH more angled than the much smoother and rounder facial features that are can be commonly found in Japanese/Korean/Chinese etc Asians. Like there are SO MANY male asian celebrities that I would NEVER in a million years think looked feminine but local friends just genuinely got really confused! 

 

But this is just my tiny opinion from life experience, and I have no idea whether this is true or not! 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

7 分ぐらい, MajaHledさんが言いました:

Yeah, I don't think I'll convince her She is knows a thing or two about dancing, and she said his movements (rather than his face really) are very feminine, especially this arm movements. So that's why I thought Seimei would work, since the movements there are kinda sharper and less, how to put it, flowy? But she still sees it there no matter what  And  yeah, LGC probably wasn't the best choice, since PPOS do make his hips look very wide, even more so compared to his not so wide shoulders, she especially pointed it out on the final spin position. And the other skaters she saw were mostly guys from pairs, so I think she might have a different idea than me about what an average skater looks like. Well, whatever, I'll leave her to her opinion 

 

Oh. In that case, I think we can take it as a compliment.

[MajaHled]

2 minutes ago, OonsieHui said:

This might sound off and I promise I'm not being racist or stereotypical, but @MajaHled are you (and hence your sister) by any chance caucasian/european?

 

As an Asian living in the UK, I've realised from conversations with local friends that many male Asian features just look much more distinctly feminine then an Asian might see it being. Probably due to the marked difference in facial bone structure for the general causcasian/european male (or female really!) just being MUCH more angled than the much smoother and rounder facial features that are can be commonly found in Japanese/Korean/Chinese etc Asians. Like there are SO MANY male asian celebrities that I would NEVER in a million years think looked feminine but local friends just genuinely got really confused! 

 

But this is just my tiny opinion from life experience, and I have no idea whether this is true or not! 

Yeah, you might have a point there, we're both european. But I never really viewed Yuzu as feminine, so I guess we just have a differet idea about what masculinity looks like 

 

2 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

 

Oh. In that case, I think we can take it as a compliment.

True that, minus the fact she somehow found it really funny and wouldn't stop laughing 

[Syless Jinx]

I know some of you guys don't like TSL, but they actually have some positive things to say this time.  They surprisingly are also supporters of the repeat programs...

 

[Sammie]

3 minutes ago, OonsieHui said:

This might sound off and I promise I'm not being racist or stereotypical, but @MajaHled are you (and hence your sister) by any chance caucasian/european?

 

As an Asian living in the UK, I've realised from conversations with local friends that many male Asian features just look much more distinctly feminine then an Asian might see it being. Probably due to the marked difference in facial bone structure for the general causcasian/european male (or female really!) just being MUCH more angled than the much smoother and rounder facial features that are can be commonly found in Japanese/Korean/Chinese etc Asians. Like there are SO MANY male asian celebrities that I would NEVER in a million years think looked feminine but local friends just genuinely got really confused! 

 

But this is just my tiny opinion from life experience, and I have no idea whether this is true or not! 

I'm an Asian living in the US. My mom saw me watching Yuzu skate on my phone. She asked me if he was a girl ... I said No. Then she asked if he was gay...I said No. 

[OonsieHui]

5 minutes ago, Sammie said:

I'm an Asian living in the US. My mom saw me watching Yuzu skate on my phone. She asked me if he was a girl ... I said No. Then she asked if he was gay...I said No. 

. . . . I have no idea then lol. 

 

Lol I wish there was some way to poll us satellites on PH haha. Now I'm curious! How many of us, the very first time we saw Yuzu, thought he was a girl??

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

4 分ぐらい, MajaHledさんが言いました:

True that, minus the fact she somehow found it really funny and wouldn't stop laughing 

 

Sounds to me like her brain and heart know when something is truly beautiful and magnificent but her mind just can't accept it yet.