singermelodie1 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, Danibellerika said: Brian said he took English as a part of his university studies which has helped him. Beyond that I think he just uses his exposure at TCC since he doesn't seem to get out much. And his English didn't really sound bad when he spoke a little bit to javi during CiONTU, so interviewers have to make him comfortable. Link to comment
cinemacoconut Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Danibellerika said: Brian said he took English as a part of his university studies which has helped him. Beyond that I think he just uses his exposure at TCC since he doesn't seem to get out much. His english doesnt seem to be improving past the current level haha... Which is cute.. But i always wondered why haha Link to comment
ralucutzagy Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bilge said: Daily Yuzu Bb mushroom Yuzu! ...but that costume, tho Link to comment
yura23 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Hii guys, can i know who is yuzu's fanboy among skater?? Its okay either senior or junior Link to comment
Hydroblade Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Bilge said: Daily Yuzu Link to comment
Xen Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, yura23 said: Hii guys, can i know who is yuzu's fanboy among skater?? Its okay either senior or junior Well, among the JPN male skaters- it's a war of the fanboys between Mitsuki Sumoto (when they interviewed him he showed them his giant collection of Yuzu clear files), Sota Yamamoto, Shingo Nishiyama (who trains at TCC), probably Shun Sato (who is from Sendai), and maybe lowkey Sena Miyake. Among the senior men-Yuzu stans Boyang's 4Lz, and Boyang stans him back. This is kind of why a lot of people want to root for Boyang to move to TCC, even if only for a short time (Brian's hair will be gone by the end of it). And then there is Jason Brown, who wrote a message in Japanese at NHK 2017, and held it up in Kiss&Cry. Link to comment
BWOZWaltz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 19 hours ago, Bilge said: 17 hours ago, Hydroblade said: https://imgur.com/4Qkes9c ETA: can't embed it... ETA2: Finally...I've watched YT for this tutorial... Link to comment
cinemacoconut Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, Xen said: Well, among the JPN male skaters- it's a war of the fanboys between Mitsuki Sumoto (when they interviewed him he showed them his giant collection of Yuzu clear files), Sota Yamamoto, Shingo Nishiyama (who trains at TCC), probably Shun Sato (who is from Sendai), and maybe lowkey Sena Miyake. Among the senior men-Yuzu stans Boyang's 4Lz, and Boyang stans him back. This is kind of why a lot of people want to root for Boyang to move to TCC, even if only for a short time (Brian's hair will be gone by the end of it). And then there is Jason Brown, who wrote a message in Japanese at NHK 2017, and held it up in Kiss&Cry. Frm girls it is Alena K Zagitova Zhenya. He also has alot of eteri girl fans haha Link to comment
Hydroblade Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, BWOZWaltz said: https://imgur.com/4Qkes9c Link to comment
enno0287 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Xen said: Well, among the JPN male skaters- it's a war of the fanboys between Mitsuki Sumoto (when they interviewed him he showed them his giant collection of Yuzu clear files), Sota Yamamoto, Shingo Nishiyama (who trains at TCC), probably Shun Sato (who is from Sendai), and maybe lowkey Sena Miyake. Among the senior men-Yuzu stans Boyang's 4Lz, and Boyang stans him back. This is kind of why a lot of people want to root for Boyang to move to TCC, even if only for a short time (Brian's hair will be gone by the end of it). And then there is Jason Brown, who wrote a message in Japanese at NHK 2017, and held it up in Kiss&Cry. Add Nathan's coach there as Yuzu's uncle fan. There was a video of him asking Yuzu to sign a magazine and he said he's a fan of Yuzu. Link to comment
cinemacoconut Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Mastyaeva said: Guys, imagine Yuzu coming to FOI with a brand new program. He is planning to participate, isn't he? So, this isn't impossible. A girl can dream, anyway. Is is 100 percent confirmed he is in Faoi? Link to comment
micaelis Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Of GOAT and apples and organges - Some thoughts. Right now a lot of those on this forum are thinking about GOAT. Is Yuzu the GOAT? I'm going to disappoint most of you and say 'No', but I will add, 'Not Yet'. In the article from IceNetwork above there was a good, level-headed discussion that brought out some issues that all of us have to deal with when discussing GOAT. The first, and most importance, is historical context. All those who might be cited as GOAT are products of their times. Figure skating back in the late 1890s, when the first world championship was held, was very much a different sport. I don't know if there were any jumps, but one has to realize that figure skating was an outdoor sport then. The technology for indoor rinks had yet to be invented. This meant that the weather had a significant impact on the skaters. Also there was no technology for providing the music. Even if they had music, it would likely have been a piano or a small instrumental ensemble. When the technology became available figure-skating indoors was initially part of the summer games. Then it joined the rest of the winter sports and became, in fact, one of the prime attractions of the winter games. At the same time the sport was advancing as far as the creation of moves and the increase of the difficulty of established moves. Twice during the 20th century the Olympics were canceled, due to the two World Wars. During this time there were a number of male skaters whose careers justified calling them the GOAT, with Dick Button having probably the greatest claim. However, as one person noted, he was competing at a time when figure skating in Europe was nearly impossible due to the damage from the war and the depletion of the pool of qualified skaters and figure-skating in Asia wasn't even a distant dream. In short, with Dick Button we are seeing essentially the 'big fish in a small pond' factor. He certainly did not face the kind of competition that exists today. On the other hand his record is remarkable due to the fact that he just never lost. During his time the competition was for number 2. But still, we have to realize the reduced nature of the competitive pool. Today is very different. So now we have Yuzu and the contemporary situation. The sport is much changed in that compulsories are a thing of the past and there is a new scoring system in place. It was noted that Plushenko established more records than Yuzu, but that is to be expected. With the new scoring system starting up almost any skate had the potential to set a record back then. There were a lot of records being set back then, I'm sure. But since the beginning of this decade the record setting has stabilized. The records being set now are much more significant since they are being set against a past where there are significant enough non-records to provide a valid pool of comparison. In that sense Yuzu must be seen as truly the record-setter and we must not forget that except for Patrick's breaking Yuzu's short program record in the French GP in 2013 (which Yuzu then topped a couple weeks after) that nobody today has broken a record Yuzu has set. There are those who have topped his recird scores, but that's only after he went and set a new record. Eight of the twelve records Yuzu has set have involved him breaking his own records. At least on the score issue, Yuzu is the pace-setter. I have a feeling even Plushie would agree. The major factor arguing against Yuzu's being the GOAT is his inconsistency. Every time Yuzu takes to the ice there is the very real suspense over what he will do. Johnny Weir, one time, when asked if Yuzu could be beat, said simply, 'Nobody can beat a perfect Yuzuru Hanyu'. The qualifier there is 'perfect'. The thing is that Yuzu is imperfect enough of the time to make every one of his skates a matter of high suspense. Undoubtedly, I must say, Yuzu is definitely the greatest skater of the decade and I would even say, of the current century. If he should go on to win a third time in Beijing, as one of the commentators stated in the IceNetwork article, there would be no doubt of his GOAT status. That's why I'm saying 'Not yet'. In the seasons that follow the one just completed there will be plenty of opportunities for Yuzu to show his stuff and there are two factors that I think will clinch the GOAT if he follows through on them. One is his stated intention to compete as much as possible (dependent on his ankle condition). The other thing is his statement that he now will not be designing his programs to win, but will instead the programs he truly wants to skate. He'll probably still win often enough to maintain his one-to-beat ranking. We must remember that a GOAT designation is not solely the product of wins, but rather the result of the nature of those wins. Yuzu has won more than any other skater this decade by being the dominant quadster out there. Sure, there are those who are doing more quads and those who have more quads in their arsenal, but as Johnny Weir put so clearly, 'It's not just the quads, it's the quality of the quads'. Yuzu dominates in the quad competition by picking up more GOEs than the other skaters. There are, however, aspects of Yuzu's ongoing career that while they may not qualify him as the GOAT certainly place him potentially as amongst the most consequential skaters of all time. First, the new scoring rules. I think they are the result of the figure-skating administrators seeing the quad thing getting out of control. The imbalance that is now being seen between TES and PCS they're trying to adjust. I don't think they've found the magic formula but they're trying. I think a major part of that move is attributable to Yuzu. The artistic side of his accomplishments makes those who value that aspect of figure-skating ready to do what is possible to make sure the PCS is not buried by the TES. I don't think they've gone far enough but I really do feel that the new rules as they now exist work to Yuzu's advantage, as I've pointed out in previous posts. Another thing is that Yuzu's fans are something never seen before in figure-skating, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Yuzu has acquired, quite simply, rock-star status. In Japan his picture on the covers of magazines are a guarantee of the sellout of those issues. It's not that way around the world, but Yuzu's presence on the ice at any event, no matter what part of the world it's in, is a guaranteed sellout. The Poohvalanches are a phenomenon never before encountered in figure-skating, indeed, in any sport. Yuzu has redefined what athletic fandom can be (Actually, his fans have). Add to that the heavy hint Yuzu provided this past weekend that he might attempt to redefine ice shows in the same manner he's redefining figure-skating itself, what we can see is that Yuzu might be providing a new way to define what a GOAT is, basing it on more than wins and record scores, basing it also on the effect a skater has on the culture of the sport. In that sense I think Yuzu is already the GOAT, but I think it'll take a while before the rest of the world agrees. Yuzu's status, right now, is as a claimant to the GOAT title. There's nobody around currently who is even close to challenging Yuzu on that score. The fact that even his harshest critics are having to go so far into the past to find those who they think challenge him for the title is itself an argument for his current stature. One thing everyone here must recognize, though, is that the GOAT title is one that is always threatened whenever a new skating phenomenon appears. Even if Yuzu can firmly claim the title everyone must remember that the GOAT is not etched in stone, that it only remains until the next convincing claimant comes along, and that will be the case if his record only on his competitive success. In the annals of sport there is only one person holding a GOAT who I feel will never lose it, and that's baseball's Babe Ruth. Why? Most people think of him only as the supreme hitter. No, that's not the reason. The other is that he's one of the greatest pitchers of all time. There are those who may exceed his achievements as a hitter, and those who do so as a pitcher, but there will never be another who'll do both. That's security. To a certain extent, if Yuzu successfully redefines ice shows, and then is able to put into practice theories about coaching that are actually successful (theories he's currently developing in his university studies), he actually might acquire an unassailable GOAT, as the most consequential skater of all, the one who had an effect on the rink, on the nature of ice shows, and on coaching. If his accomplishments are found in all three, then, yes , he will be the Babe Ruth of figure-skating. Link to comment
BWOZWaltz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Xen said: Well, among the JPN male skaters- it's a war of the fanboys between Mitsuki Sumoto (when they interviewed him he showed them his giant collection of Yuzu clear files), Sota Yamamoto, Shingo Nishiyama (who trains at TCC), probably Shun Sato (who is from Sendai), and maybe lowkey Sena Miyake. Among the senior men-Yuzu stans Boyang's 4Lz, and Boyang stans him back. This is kind of why a lot of people want to root for Boyang to move to TCC, even if only for a short time (Brian's hair will be gone by the end of it). And then there is Jason Brown, who wrote a message in Japanese at NHK 2017, and held it up in Kiss&Cry. Nobu is Yuzu's friend but sometimes the way Nobu reacts (especially at PC) is more fanboy than a friend... 3 minutes ago, enno0287 said: Add Nathan's coach there as Yuzu's uncle fan. There was a video of him asking Yuzu to sign a magazine and he said he's a fan of Yuzu. I'm not really sure if Rafael was serious in that video tho. I thought his family or someone close was bugging him to get Yuzu's autograph. Link to comment
yura23 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Xen said: Well, among the JPN male skaters- it's a war of the fanboys between Mitsuki Sumoto (when they interviewed him he showed them his giant collection of Yuzu clear files), Sota Yamamoto, Shingo Nishiyama (who trains at TCC), probably Shun Sato (who is from Sendai), and maybe lowkey Sena Miyake. Among the senior men-Yuzu stans Boyang's 4Lz, and Boyang stans him back. This is kind of why a lot of people want to root for Boyang to move to TCC, even if only for a short time (Brian's hair will be gone by the end of it). And then there is Jason Brown, who wrote a message in Japanese at NHK 2017, and held it up in Kiss&Cry. That was.... A lot I heard vincent and dima is yuzu's fanboy too?? Link to comment
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