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我是在国内直接去GPF官网上买的， 应该可以，他们是通过ticketmaster 所以国际信用卡应该都OK, 好像也有paypal. 可以试一下到时候。 =) https://skatecanada.ca/2018-isu-grand-prix-of-figure-skating-final/

I hope he just heals up properly, and does not try to push it just because he feels obligated to fans. Music wise, there is a music talk thread.

I'm checking over Marin's but I think the choctaw should satisify the 3Lz steps requirement? The issue with Lutz is that unlike the other jumps, it has a very short setup, so long as you end up on our outside left edge when you lift off, anything could work. o_O Ah, and for Marin, you are correct, I checked again and you are correct! It is in fact a counter, but it has a problem (and doesn't count) because this is the hopped counter that people were looking for: see how she gets a little hop off her blades? That's the hopped counter I noted but screwed up marking in my notes. Thanks Robin!

Hi guys, I'm also done with Mai. I'm guessing you guys want Dabin? If yes, can I get that tomorrow? Got to get up in 6 hours. =) For steps etc, you guys can check out Alice: part 1, part 2 Personally, for turns, the really difficult ones are kind of easy, if you remember 2 things-what 3 turns and brackets look like, ideally both backward and forwards versions. Now-Rockers are 3 turns, only the skater forms a figure S from entry to exit, and counters are just brackets that form a figure S shape from entry to exit. At least that's how I look at it. =) For those wondering what a hopped step would look like, from my notes, this from Tuktuk-check around 2:16 ish-notice how she rises and is on her toes before she exits the loop, I suspect this is a problematic loop, since she has to use the full blade, but she's using the front part, and exiting via the toepick. @cirelle: why use sad-kicked-puppy-eyes Yuzu? It's making me feel bad when I mark stuff. =(

Hmm, in slow mo no longer looks hopped gimme a min, I actually don't recall seeing that many hopped counters/rockers in ladies, but I do recall having loops picked out in my notes.

I have her on the list. Because I want to include all the girls who ended up in top 6 at the end. I haven't included Dabin, but if you guys want, I can take a stab at it. Yep, but that being said, many jumps naturally allow a degree of PR, the question is how far does it get taken to make it a joke. In this case the ISU put it at 180, and as TP, there is nothing for me to call if they are at or within 180, with real time and benefit going to skater. But like I said, it can become a part of the "weak take-off" bullet, which begs the question, how much PR gets that bullet? I'm actually tempted to say if a skater goes all the way up to 180, then it should be, because you are so borderline. If you have a huge jump though nonetheless, it can be balanced out with the positive bullet of "distance, height." But this is why I said, if I were a judge this time rather than TP, most skaters would be getting 0's and 1's from me, because on balance, that's where most people are.

There might be one. Technically tomorrow is the day we find out the full news-that the iced wine won a new award, it now ships internationally, and now he will have his own training center/school for ice skating close to the wine cellars etc (this part is part joking, but hey we can dream right)?

Patrick and his SS solidity will be missed. （Before I became a Yuzu fan, I was a Patrick and Daisuke fan)

I'm with you there, I have rinkmates but family wise, no one to watch FS with. So I usually also watch alone. Luckily for those like us, this is what the forum is for! To nerd out on Yuzu together. Good luck with Saitama! If you go, have fun, and wave those banners like a madwoman!

See, the issue is that the rules do allow up to 180 degrees PR. And up to 90 degrees on landing. Second, is that there isn't a "rule" per se that take off should be between X and X degrees of PR, only that it stays under 180 to avoid PR hits. Even though in actuality, TPs don't really call PR downgrades. If we must, I would think that "weak takeoff" might consider the issue of PR. However, that requires us to establish what degree of PR starts going into "weak takeoff" category.

可以用手机看的， 还可以， 不算太难操作。

Oh wow, thanks! I have never heard of this artist, which is a shame because her music is really good. The song you picked, I think there is a way to fit something in from 0-2:30 for a short. The repetition makes me think that you'd have to cut and splice more for a long. This one is interesting, in that the high/low is a tempo change, more than just a volume change. So it would be challenging for most skaters, since the demand on SS will be high. For LP I think Optimist with Hello Night (mixed a bit with the heavy part at the start, and switch to Optimist for the later section) if we stick to her:

I felt like the reason why he did all of those programs is because he's sending them off. So we start another cycle/quad of new programs. =)

I think that's what she is impling- that there should be an effect in GOE for all the PRed jumps, especially if the judge is capable of noticing it in real time. I think 90-120 is how much most people PR, but maybe there is a point where skaters go straight to 180 PR that could factor in a weak take-off?

I would worry less about PR, since in real time you won't notice it easily unless it's very egregious. For the weak and strong take off-I always thought that was more in relation to edge depths especially for lutz jumps.

Well the issue is ID in real time- in real time, I actually thought both were on the 120-180 PR degrees. In Slow-Mo, I'd say probably 180, with Radio's toe being borderline 180 (closer to 200 when she finally lifts off). But without slow-mo it's harder to catch, hence why I didn't mark them. Also, Tp these days don't do PR calls, so I'm refraining from this (otherwise you'll see 120-180 PR flags from me for most of the ladies, even TukTuk has about a 120 PR on her toe combo). I actually think Radio's 3T was within the quarter mark, barely, but just in. Her 3Lz was the one that if you watch how her leg leaned and her body leaned at landing, made me look in detail in slow-mo and why I called, borderline but unlike the 3T for me she was borderline over the quarter. Marin's 3F and 3T both I find over the quarter, with a horizontal blade landing from my view. Marin's loop by the way, is short of about 40 degrees of rotation. And Alina's 3Lo in combo, I also nearly called, but checked with a pencil held up and deemed it about 5 degrees from a UR. *sigh* Am I starting to reach Shin Amano levels yet?

The video I'm using is this one-check out the slow mo from the timestamp, and maybe even the bit before then which has a good sideview of her jump landing. Both the Flip and the Toe were UR, the toe being the more obvious one-check what angle her toepick hits the ice, and how the blade moves when she shifts weight to the blade. The Flip I think is harder to judge than the toe, but if you pause right as she lands, it's at least at 90 degrees to me, if not more (I'd say probably closer to 95-100) due to how horizontal it appears. I would however like a second look from someone else, because the angles I'm using to judge the Flip are not as clear as the toe ( you get a nice direct view of the blade and toepick on the T's landing and it's UR, slight, but UR). Also, if you watch the take-offs in 0.5 or 0.25 speed, you notice how much PR she has. The flip takes off pretty much right at 180-harder to catch in real time. And the 3Lo is nearly 180 degrees PR too. The 3T on the jump combo has the same issue. But most female skaters do PR heavily, nearly to 180 on the Toe, Sal and loop. On the other hand, compare this to TukTuk-watch that landing in Slow Mo. Now while it's not fully done, it's definitely within the allowed quarter rev (roughly about 40 degrees off). Marin's is close to Elena's landing, which I actually called-see when the toepick and blade initially land. But I think Marin's is more..horizontal than this.

Hi guys, I've got both Tuk and Marin up too. Marin fans, please don't kill me.

Oops, my bad, it should be 3Lo, but the BV was right.

I want a vid with views from the back, but from the video i used, it looked like she had a slight outside, which I think is straight edge if I account for camera angle. Can't view now, on phone without vpn access.

No idea? But I've added in Wakababy, Radionova and Gaby. Going to sleep and continue tomorrow night. If you guys want to pitchfork me...well okay.

As her step Sequence? o_O

Yeah, which is why I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on a step I marked as a 3-turn and a step I labeled a mohawk-those might be the mysterious bracket and 2 choctaws I am looking for. But there was a RFO counter that I thought exited a bit prematurely (she exited right at the peak of the exit curve). But that only gives her at tops 10, unless I give her the benefit of the doubt on the RFO counter. She really is fast, with Gabby I could spot most of the counters/rockers at 0.5x time, but Wakababy I had to actually draw out her curves. Anyways, I went back and reedited Gaby, she might have only done a lv3, since she has 3 rockers and counters each. Anyways, this is why I would appreciate a second look at my scores.

I don't know if it's execution or something, but something about her StSq seems a bit...bare? I might have counted steps wrong, because I really wasn't seeing brackets or choctaws in it.and only spotted about 7 clearly.

You know, don't watch Yuzu skate before you try to look at steps for TP. After 1 minute of watching him skate (CiONTU is distracting me!), everyone's counter and rocker edges look shallow. Anyways, original post has Wakaba's stuff up. I don't like her SP's StSq much.