Yatagarasu Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 With the season done, we're back to this. Top 12 skaters at Worlds have 2 spots guaranteed, and 1 spot per top 24 SB/WS. Link to Worlds results Link to World standings Link to Season Best results Place Date Skate America October 19–21 Skate Canada October 26–28 Cup of China November 2–4 NHK November 9–11 Rostelecom Cup November 16–18 IdF November 23–25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 I'm actually really curious who's going to go where, what with the rule of top 3 at Worlds cannot meet and on the other hand, peeps like Boyang and Yuzuru of course, or in the ladies, Zhenya, not falling under that rule. I guess technically none of them have 2 guaranteed spots but yeah. I am also very curious to see if the IdF rumor pans out for Zu though personally I'm hoping it doesn't. NHK is still the best bet for him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 World Standings for purposes of GP assignments for the 2018/2019 season need to be estimated as of July 1st (beginning of next season) since the current World Standings won't be the ones used for GP purposes. I'm copying in here some data from the peeps at GS: Top 12 at Worlds, guaranteed 2 spots Spoiler Quote MEN Chen Uno Kolyada Bychenko Tomono Vasiljevs Aliev Messing Ge Brezina Aaron Majorov Quote LADIES Osmond Higuchi Miyhara Kostner Zagitova Tennell Daleman Sotskova Hendrickx Nagasu Tursynbaeva Bell Note: If any of these skaters retire, then the next skater in placement moves up and so forth until all 12 places are occupied again. Season's Best, guaranteed 1 spot Spoiler Quote MEN Hanyu Boyang Fernandez Zhou Voronov Brown Rippon Chan Tanaka Yan Samarin Hendrickx Samohin Kvitelashvili Quote LADIES Medvedeva Sakamoto Mihara Tsurskaya Radionova Konstantinova Choi Honda Tuktamysheva Panenkova Matsuda Yamashita (Trusova, Kostornaia and Tarakanova are still age ineligible) Estimated World Standings beginning July 1st Spoiler Quote MEN 1 Nathan CHEN 2 Shoma UNO 3 Yuzuru HANYU 4 Mikhail KOLYADA 5 Javier FERNANDEZ retired (at least from GP) 6 Alexei BYCHENKO 7 Jason BROWN 8 Boyang JIN 9 Dmitri ALIEV 10 Adam RIPPON retired? 11 Max AARON 12 Deniss VASILJEVS 13 Patrick CHAN (retired) 14 Sergei VORONOV 15 Misha GE retired? 16 Alexander SAMARIN 17 Vincent ZHOU 18 Jorik HENDRICKX 19 Moris KVITELASHVILI 20 Keiji TANAKA 21 Kazuki TOMONO 22 Matteo RIZZO 23 Roman SAVOSIN 24 Keegan MESSING 25 Alexei KRASNOZHON 26 Alexander MAJOROV 27 Chafik BESSEGHIER 28 Han YAN Retired? 29 Nam NGUYEN 30 Daniel SAMOHIN Quote LADIES 1 Kaetlyn OSMOND 2 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA 3 Alina ZAGITOVA 4 Wakaba HIGUCHI 5 Maria SOTSKOVA 6 Carolina KOSTNER retired? 7 Mai MIHARA 8 Satoko MIYAHARA 9 Kaori SAKAMOTO 10 Gabrielle DALEMAN 11 Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA 12 Karen CHEN 13 Mirai NAGASU retired? 14 Mariah BELL 15 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA 16 Bradie TENNELL 17 Rika HONGO 18 Dabin CHOI 19 Marin HONDA 20 Nicole SCHOTT 21 Laurine LECAVELIER 22 Loena HENDRICKX 23 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA 24 Nicole RAJICOVA 25 Elena RADIONOVA 26 Anna POGORILAYA There are 72 spots for men (and ladies?) on the GP. Once the top 12 at Worlds all have their two assignments (24), that leaves 48 spots to be handed out. The top 12 from Worlds will likely be in the Top 24 Season's Best, so they already have their assignments, leaving a bunch more for all the skaters only guaranteed 1 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The interesting thing here is that Yuzuru, Evgenia (and Sui/Han in pairs) will be able to be assigned to compete against basically anyone, because they're not seeded from the Top 12 at Worlds. We may be seeing a few head to heads early in the season, like it happened last season. Also, with the top 3 being given first choice most time, unless it interferes with a host's pick, I wonder what Nathan, Shoma and Mikhail will choose and what of their choices will be met. Nathan will obviously have SA and Mikhail CoR. Will Shoma finally get NHK? And if yes, will JSF allow Yuzuru there as well? Strategically it doesn't seem smart but this is the Fed that sent 3 of their top ladies to CoC to fight each other off a GPF spot. Or will they prefer Yuzuru at NHK (since he hasn't done a competition in ages in Japan) and have Shoma choose other two assignments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yes, 72 for the ladies as well. I really wonder what'll happen to NHK and Yuzuru. The thing about the potential deal with the French is that if Zu ends up at NHK and IdF then it's sort of a question mark for Shoma. Yes, they could both go to NHK but IMO the last season's lunacy with the ladies was more an ill thought out idea to let them duke it out, while protecting Satoko, for that second spot so it wasn't really guided by anything else. And yet, if Zu goes to NHK and IdF and Shoma isn't at NHK then what? He cannot go to CoR or SA. That leaves us with SC and CoC but those are back to back. While I don't think he would mind the competitions, he does have jet lag issues so I don't think that works for him. If Zu does his standard SC and NHK then that sort of solves the problem, as Shoma can then do CoC and IdF. If Zu doesn't do NHK at all, then it could be SC and IdF because though CoC and HNK are back to back again, Shoma wouldn't have jet lag issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katt Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 If Yuzuru does Idf, I think he wont do NHK. Imagine NHK-Idf-GPF-National, he will have 4 comps in less than 2 months, not to mention the travelling will be a nightmare As for ladies, I think SC and Idf for Keatlyn. Very curious who will get NHK, although I think Satoko has way higher chance to get it than Wakaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammie Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 So Kazuki get to go to two comp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotsquare Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Where did this rumour that Yuzu is going to IdF come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilsailor Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, dotsquare said: Where did this rumour that Yuzu is going to IdF come from? apparently there’s a deal between jsf and French fed for yuzu to do idf and p/c to do nhk afaik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yes, that came straight from the French fed and Didier, how apparently there's a 'suggestion' that P/C and Zu should basically swap so we'd have IdF and NHK for them. Of course I have no idea how much of it is a suggestion and how much a 'suggestion' but it really isn't ideal if he's doing NHK as we can see. @Sammie yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, lilsailor said: apparently there’s a deal between jsf and French fed for yuzu to do idf and p/c to do nhk afaik This sounds really bad... it is like jsf is using Zu to trade something... how dare you jsf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, SSS said: This sounds really bad... it is like jsf is using Zu to trade something... how dare you jsf... Ehhh, news is from the French fed so ... let's say it's their side of the story? I mean they'd want Zu there of course, for obvious reasons but it doesn't mean JSF is forcing him into anything. They could ask him if he's willing, and he might be, and of course, this type of swapping isn't unusual. Stronger 'suggestions' though are not pretty but heck, we don't know. Could be either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yatagarasu said: Ehhh, news is from the French fed so ... let's say it's their side of the story? I mean they'd want Zu there of course, for obvious reasons but it doesn't mean JSF is forcing him into anything. They could ask him if he's willing, and he might be, and of course, this type of swapping isn't unusual. Stronger 'suggestions' though are not pretty but heck, we don't know. Could be either one. IdF is too close to gpf anyway wish Zu heal his foot soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammie Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Yatagarasu said: Yes, that came straight from the French fed and Didier, how apparently there's a 'suggestion' that P/C and Zu should basically swap so we'd have IdF and NHK for them. Of course I have no idea how much of it is a suggestion and how much a 'suggestion' but it really isn't ideal if he's doing NHK as we can see. @Sammie yup! Yes! I have a few men to look forward too. The ladies just going to kill me. I love them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotsquare Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Yatagarasu said: Yes, that came straight from the French fed and Didier, how apparently there's a 'suggestion' that P/C and Zu should basically swap so we'd have IdF and NHK for them. Of course I have no idea how much of it is a suggestion and how much a 'suggestion' but it really isn't ideal if he's doing NHK as we can see. @Sammie yup! If it's from the Federation, then it sounds pretty legit I know Yuzu makes a lot of his decisions but the JSF also has a lot of power over him as Brian has hinted in the past. Speaking of assignments, when do we typically hear what GP comps each skater is doing? Is it June/July or quite late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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