axelsandwich Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, xeyra said: Yeah, all these hints that keep coming from insiders that Russia will only be allowed to participate under the neutral flag makes me believe that'll be the decision we'll hear today. But whether Putin allows it or not is less certain. It's an interesting strategic move on the IOC's part if they went for the neutral flag route so athletes ultimately not participating will be Putin's fault and not the IOC's (and shift the Federations' focus to his decision to boycott/not to boycott). He'd have to really play up the 'wounded national pride, we did NOTHING wrong, making our athletes neutral is the same as denying them a chance to compete' martyr angle (then again, idk how public perception/popularity really factors into his decisions at this point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sombreuil Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think there is some hope that the neutral option might be used- they allowed it for the IAAF so why not for OWG? It would be nice if the bits of western media that like to rant and stir the pot would refrain from doing that and inflaming the situation. One thing about it - Russian athletes tend to have very Russian names so even competing as neutrals it's pretty obvious even to the most casual and ill informed viewer where they come from and who they normally represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danibellerika Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Honestly, for an already struggling games, I don't think banning a major player (should it be followed up with a boycott) will help make it any more appealing. I purchased very expensive tickets to these events expecting a real competition, not a diluted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katt Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I hope and think there's gonna be a good new. I couldn't imagine an Olympic without Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest turquoiseblue Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, ralucutzagy said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Sombreuil said: I think there is some hope that the neutral option might be used- they allowed it for the IAAF so why not for OWG? It would be nice if the bits of western media that like to rant and stir the pot would refrain from doing that and inflaming the situation. One thing about it - Russian athletes tend to have very Russian names so even competing as neutrals it's pretty obvious even to the most casual and ill informed viewer where they come from and who they normally represent. The trouble with that is that is that the Russians themselves need to want to compete under the white flag. And that my friend, is a big, big question. Medvedeva has already said she does not wish to. I am a pragmatist who'd look at this as an opportunity to grab the medal anyway as you're right, everyone knows she's Russian, that they all are, and it can be a way for her to get her own little 'revenge' but on the other hand, I cannot blame the girl if she feels like she's being punished for something that happened when she was a child, that has nothing to do with her. She was 14. Alina was 11. The way things look now, we'll get this white flag solution but in the end, it may turn out not to be much of a solution at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turquoiseblue Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tuesday 5 December, 19.30 CET – IOC Executive Board Press Conference with IOC President Thomas Bach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danibellerika Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 So it's a full ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest turquoiseblue Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Quote After discussing and approving the Schmid Report, the IOC EB took the following decision: To suspend the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) with immediate effect. To invite individual Russian athletes under strict conditions (see below) to the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018. These invited athletes will participate, be it in individual or team competitions, under the name “Olympic Athlete from Russia (OAR)”. They will compete with a uniform bearing this name and under the Olympic Flag. The Olympic Anthem will be played in any ceremony. Not to accredit any official from the Russian Ministry of Sport for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018. To exclude the then Minister of Sport, Mr Vitaly Mutko, and his then Deputy Minister, Mr. Yuri Nagornykh, from any participation in all future Olympic Games. To withdraw Mr Dmitry Chernyshenko, the former CEO of the Organising Committee Sochi 2014, from the Coordination Commission Beijing 2022. To suspend ROC President Alexander Zhukov as an IOC Member, given that his membership is linked to his position as ROC President. The IOC reserves the right to take measures against and sanction other individuals implicated in the system. The ROC to reimburse the costs incurred by the IOC on the investigations and to contribute to the establishment of the Independent Testing Authority (ITA) for the total sum of USD 15 million, to build the capacity and integrity of the global anti-doping system. The IOC may partially or fully lift the suspension of the ROC from the commencement of the Closing Ceremony of the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018 provided these decisions are fully respected and implemented by the ROC and by the invited athletes and officials. The IOC will issue operational guidelines for the implementation of these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PapiandPooh422 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Oh my Gahd!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelsandwich Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 welp. As we predicted. Now to see if they will boycott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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