June 18, 20224 yr Yes, I keep hoping to at least be able to see Rondo again... 39 minutes ago, Perelandra said: Quoting from Max Ambesi's lecture the Complete Package About programmes, Max actually brings attention to the fact that some skaters might have new music and costume, but the programme is essentially the same, it's an illusion. He even suggested that overlaying the skating with different music, there's virtually no difference to the viewed skate Someone made a quiz in twitter with Yuzu step sequence. In the videos OP posted you can only saw his feet. Even to someone new like me most of them were easely reconozible and you can "hear" the music by seing his steps. Yuzu, his skating, and the music are one.
June 18, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Perelandra said: with live violinist ...or live pianist! both would be wonderful. I think Yuzuru is very skilled at connecting with live music/musicians and makes special, unique performances
June 18, 20224 yr Yuzu's interview is on Fuji tv in 30 mins I think - I have Japan TV at the ready! I feel excited to see him, but of course I wont understand much of what he says lol!
June 18, 20224 yr On 2022/6/18 at 午前5時1分, Pammiさんが言いました: Ah thank you Suzy Q for trying to help us understand! I read on twitter the song's underlying meaning is about not looking at/comparing yourself to others, but living in a way that is true to your own understanding of your own self worth - does that sound about right to you? It seems to fit with how Yuzuru might be feeling these days post-Beijing (post-the-last-4-years to be honest!) I decided to give it a try. Now, I need some rest Here is what will test your imagination Raison by Taisei Miyakawa Spoiler さよならと指切りの関係 sayonara to yubikiri no kankei Relationship between goodbye and pinky-promise Blackout. Raison, raison 愛みたいな幻想を知った ai mitaina genso wo shitta I came to know an illusion like love ねだって nedatte Coaxing Get down, get down 移り気な夜 utsurigina yoru A fickle night 解けないパズルとレゾン・デートル hodokenai pazuru to rezon detoru Unsolvable puzzle and raison d'etre 黎明 reimei Dawn 全知全能になったって、分からないことばかり zenchi zennou ni nattatte wakarani kotobakari Even if I became omnipotent, there's too much I don't know 音の中に幻影 oto no nakani gen'ei Illusion in the sound 「ねえ、あの陽のこと覚えてる？」ne'e, anohino koto oboeteru? "Well, do you remember that sun?" (ライナウ rainau sounds "right now" to me) 駆け出して kakedashite Right now, rushing away 君をどこかに連れ去って kimi wo dokokani tsuresatte Taking you away somewhere 意識が遠のいてく ishiki ga tohnoiteku Consciousness fading away 千切れてしまう chiigireteshimau Tearing away あの糸 ano ito that thread 集合的無意識にとける shugoteki muishikini tokeru 集合的無意識に shugoteki muishikini, 集合的無意識に くだらないな アンサー shugoteki muishikini kudaranaina answer Collective unconsciously melting. Collective unconsciously, collective unconsciously rubbish, answer さよならと明け方の反転 sayonara to akegata no hanten Goodbye and dawn reversed Frame out, raison, raison 恋のつもり koi no tsumori 浅はかだって笑って asahakadatte waratte Intended to be love. You can laugh at me that I'm silly Fly out, Fly out 崩れていく計算 kuzureteiku keisan Collapsing calculations 馬鹿げた瞳の裏見せてくれよ bakageta hitomino ura misetekureyo Show me the back of your ridiculous eyes 泥濘 deinei Mud 驚天動地の大展開 kyotendochi no daitenkai Earth-shaking incredible development カタルシスは目前 katarushisu wa mokuzen Catharsis is at hand 褪せることのないあの記憶を aserukotono nai ano kiokuwo Those memories that never fade away 「見えるものすべて傷つけたい」"mierumono subete kizutsuketai "Want to hurt everything I see" 幼稚な言葉ってときにナイフより鋭いね yochina kotobatte tokini naifu yori surudoine Childish language is sometimes sharper than a knife 怯えていた君の目 obieteita kimino me Your frightened eyes 薄汚れちゃえよ usuyogorechae yo 簡単に kantan ni Just get dirty easily 集合的無意識が嘲笑う shugoteki muishikiga azawarau 集合的無意識が shugoteki muishikiga 集合的無意識がつまらないよ バンカー shugoteki muishikiga tsumaranaiyo bunder Collective unconsciousness sneers Collective unconsciousness, collective unconsciousness is boring, bunker 証明不可能な関係と shomei fukanouna kankei to ぐらついてった信頼を guratsuitetta shinrai wo Unprovable relationships and wobbling trust ぱっぱっ ぱらぱっぱ 高らかに鳴らしたった (pappa parapappa) takarakani narashitatta Pappa parapappa, I rang high 融合的結論を告げる yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugeru 融合的結論を yugoteki ketsuron wo 融合的結論を告げちゃおうか アンサー yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugechaouka answer Telling fusional conclusion Fusional conclusion, let me tell you the fusional conclusion, answer
June 18, 20224 yr Absolutely, Yuzu's step sequences are masterpieces. Yuzu has a vision to interpret the music that he has spent time choosing. It is wonderful that he and JB, SLB, DW have been the perfect collaborations to breathe life into each performance. Sorry to harp on about bringing back music from previous seasons, for me as an appreciator of ballet, opera and classical music, this doesn't really make sense. Sometimes exploring novel pieces is great, but if that was always the case nobody would return to theatres or concert halls. Giselle, Turandot, Beethoven's symphonies would have been one season wonders never to be seen again, as a few examples thrown off the top of my head. ( Confession as a terrible hoarder, I came across a programme for a 1976 performance featuring Rudolf Nureyev as the Prince in Sleeping Beauty. How many performances or seasons featured Nureyev in this role throughout his illustrious career? I don't know, but I would be willing to bet there would have been huge outcry if he had never reprised this role ever again once the '76 season finished) I realise competition is different Yuzu's music choices are superb and like all performing arts introduce the audience to new experiences to contemplate and invites them to expand their cultural knowledge base. Yuzu is attempting to create new classics. It does seem sad that in the main this has been met with a cold reception and vastly under- appreciated. Perhaps judges and feds are actually tone deaf amongst other deficiencies
June 18, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, SuzyQ said: I decided to give it a try. Now, I need some rest Here is what will test your imagination Raison by Taisei Miyakawa Reveal hidden contents さよならと指切りの関係 sayonara to yubikiri no kankei Relationship between goodbye and pinky-promise Blackout. Raison, raison 愛みたいな幻想を知った ai mitaina genso wo shitta I came to know an illusion like love ねだって nedatte Coaxing Get down, get down 移り気な夜 utsurigina yoru A fickle night 解けないパズルとレゾン・デートル tokenai pazuru to rezon detoru Unsolvable puzzle and raison d'etre 黎明 reimei Dawn 全知全能になったって、分からないことばかり zenchi zennou ni nattatte wakarani kotobakari Even if I became omnipotent, there's too much I don't know 音の中に幻影 oto no nakani gen'ei Illusion in the sound 「ねえ、あの陽のこと覚えてる？」ne'e, anohino koto oboeteru? "Well, do you remember that sun?" (ライナウ rainau sounds "right now" to me) 駆け出して kakedashite Right now, rushing away 君をどこかに連れ去って kimi wo dokokani tsuresatte Taking you away somewhere 意識が遠のいてく ishiki ga tohnoiteku Consciousness fading away 千切れてしまう chiigireteshimau Tearing away あの糸 ano ito that thread 集合的無意識にとける shugoteki muishikini tokeru 集合的無意識に shugoteki muishikini, 集合的無意識に くだらないな アンサー shugoteki muishikini kudaranaina answer Collective unconsciously melting. Collective unconsciously, collective unconsciously rubbish, answer さよならと明け方の反転 sayonara to akegata no hanten Goodbye and dawn reversed Frame out, raison, raison 恋のつもり koi no tsumori 浅はかだって笑って asahakadatte waratte Intended to be love. You can laugh at me that I'm silly Fly out, Fly out 崩れていく計算 kuzureteiku keisan Collapsing calculations 馬鹿げた瞳の裏見せてくれよ bakageta hitomino ura misetekureyo Show me the back of your ridiculous eyes 泥濘 deinei Mud 驚天動地の大展開 kyotendochi no daitenkai Earth-shaking incredible development カタルシスは目前 katarushisu wa mokuzen Catharsis is at hand 褪せることのないあの記憶を aserukotono nai ano kiokuwo Those memories that never fade away 「見えるものすべて傷つけたい」"mierumono subete wo kizutuketai "Want to hurt everything I see" 幼稚な言葉ってときにナイフより鋭いね yochina kotobatte tokini naifu yori surudoine Childish language is sometimes sharper than a knife 怯えていた君の目 obieteita kimino me Your frightened eyes 薄汚れちゃえよ usuyogorechae yo 簡単に kanntan ni Just get dirty easily 集合的無意識が嘲笑う shugoteki muishikiga azawarau 集合的無意識が shugoteki muishikiga 集合的無意識がつまらないよ バンカー shugoteki muishikiga tsumaranaiyo bunder Collective unconscious sneers Collective unconscious, collective unconsciousness is boring, bunker 証明不可能な関係と shomei fukanouna kankei to ぐらついてった信頼を guratsuitetta shinnrai wo Unprovable relationships and wobbling trust ぱっぱっ ぱらぱっぱ 高らかに鳴らしたった (pappa parapappa) takarakani narashitatta Pappa parapappa, I rang high 融合的結論を告げる yugoteki ketsuron wo tugeru 融合的結論を yugoteki ketsuron wo 融合的結論を告げちゃおうか アンサー yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugechaouka answer Telling fusional conclusion Fusional conclusion, let me tell you the fusional conclusion, answer Thanks for taking your time to translate it!
June 18, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, SuzyQ said: I decided to give it a try. Now, I need some rest Here is what will test your imagination Raison by Taisei Miyakawa Hide contents さよならと指切りの関係 sayonara to yubikiri no kankei Relationship between goodbye and pinky-promise Blackout. Raison, raison 愛みたいな幻想を知った ai mitaina genso wo shitta I came to know an illusion like love ねだって nedatte Coaxing Get down, get down 移り気な夜 utsurigina yoru A fickle night 解けないパズルとレゾン・デートル tokenai pazuru to rezon detoru Unsolvable puzzle and raison d'etre 黎明 reimei Dawn 全知全能になったって、分からないことばかり zenchi zennou ni nattatte wakarani kotobakari Even if I became omnipotent, there's too much I don't know 音の中に幻影 oto no nakani gen'ei Illusion in the sound 「ねえ、あの陽のこと覚えてる？」ne'e, anohino koto oboeteru? "Well, do you remember that sun?" (ライナウ rainau sounds "right now" to me) 駆け出して kakedashite Right now, rushing away 君をどこかに連れ去って kimi wo dokokani tsuresatte Taking you away somewhere 意識が遠のいてく ishiki ga tohnoiteku Consciousness fading away 千切れてしまう chiigireteshimau Tearing away あの糸 ano ito that thread 集合的無意識にとける shugoteki muishikini tokeru 集合的無意識に shugoteki muishikini, 集合的無意識に くだらないな アンサー shugoteki muishikini kudaranaina answer Collective unconsciously melting. Collective unconsciously, collective unconsciously rubbish, answer さよならと明け方の反転 sayonara to akegata no hanten Goodbye and dawn reversed Frame out, raison, raison 恋のつもり koi no tsumori 浅はかだって笑って asahakadatte waratte Intended to be love. You can laugh at me that I'm silly Fly out, Fly out 崩れていく計算 kuzureteiku keisan Collapsing calculations 馬鹿げた瞳の裏見せてくれよ bakageta hitomino ura misetekureyo Show me the back of your ridiculous eyes 泥濘 deinei Mud 驚天動地の大展開 kyotendochi no daitenkai Earth-shaking incredible development カタルシスは目前 katarushisu wa mokuzen Catharsis is at hand 褪せることのないあの記憶を aserukotono nai ano kiokuwo Those memories that never fade away 「見えるものすべて傷つけたい」"mierumono subete wo kizutuketai "Want to hurt everything I see" 幼稚な言葉ってときにナイフより鋭いね yochina kotobatte tokini naifu yori surudoine Childish language is sometimes sharper than a knife 怯えていた君の目 obieteita kimino me Your frightened eyes 薄汚れちゃえよ usuyogorechae yo 簡単に kanntan ni Just get dirty easily 集合的無意識が嘲笑う shugoteki muishikiga azawarau 集合的無意識が shugoteki muishikiga 集合的無意識がつまらないよ バンカー shugoteki muishikiga tsumaranaiyo bunder Collective unconscious sneers Collective unconscious, collective unconsciousness is boring, bunker 証明不可能な関係と shomei fukanouna kankei to ぐらついてった信頼を guratsuitetta shinnrai wo Unprovable relationships and wobbling trust ぱっぱっ ぱらぱっぱ 高らかに鳴らしたった (pappa parapappa) takarakani narashitatta Pappa parapappa, I rang high 融合的結論を告げる yugoteki ketsuron wo tugeru 融合的結論を yugoteki ketsuron wo 融合的結論を告げちゃおうか アンサー yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugechaouka answer Telling fusional conclusion Fusional conclusion, let me tell you the fusional conclusion, answer Oh wow, I will have to re-read this a few times to absorb it and think about it - thanks so much for the hard work! I wonder in Miyakawa has spoken about this song's meaning - it would be great to know his perspective! Artists often like to leave it to us to interpret our own meaning though!
June 18, 20224 yr 18 minutes ago, Pammi said: ...or live pianist! both would be wonderful. I think Yuzuru is very skilled at connecting with live music/musicians and makes special, unique performances Very special indeed, I only mentioned violin because Rondo is a violin piece originally. It has been said by virtuoso musicians who have played at show with Yuzu, that he impresses them with his musicality and they adore how he is able to interpret the musical pieces so eloquently. Yuzu explained during the interview with ?Scott Russell? that for him, his skating is like a universal language, that skating becomes the medium through which he can communicate a personal vision to the spectators and I suppose that the music choice is part of conveying Yuzu's message. That is part of the magic, this ability to connect with the audience through his skating, like the idea of collective consciousness
June 18, 20224 yr @Henni147 Your statistical analyses are always illuminating. Thank you for all of your dedication collecting and collating these facts and figures, just brilliant
June 18, 20224 yr 32 minutes ago, Perelandra said: Absolutely, Yuzu's step sequences are masterpieces. Yuzu has a vision to interpret the music that he has spent time choosing. It is wonderful that he and JB, SLB, DW have been the perfect collaborations to breathe life into each performance. Sorry to harp on about bringing back music from previous seasons, for me as an appreciator of ballet, opera and classical music, this doesn't really make sense. Sometimes exploring novel pieces is great, but if that was always the case nobody would return to theatres or concert halls. Giselle, Turandot, Beethoven's symphonies would have been one season wonders never to be seen again, as a few examples thrown off the top of my head. ( Confession as a terrible hoarder, I came across a programme for a 1976 performance featuring Rudolf Nureyev as the Prince in Sleeping Beauty. How many performances or seasons featured Nureyev in this role throughout his illustrious career? I don't know, but I would be willing to bet there would have been huge outcry if he had never reprised this role ever again once the '76 season finished) I realise competition is different Yuzu's music choices are superb and like all performing arts introduce the audience to new experiences to contemplate and invites them to expand their cultural knowledge base. Yuzu is attempting to create new classics. It does seem sad that in the main this has been met with a cold reception and vastly under- appreciated. Perhaps judges and feds are actually tone deaf amongst other deficiencies ISU, feds and media do their utmost to turn figure skating, what was supposed to be a sport for intellectuals and connoisseurs, into cheap mass industry for the low-demand consuming society. The one that gives 0 about quality and longevity and that more and more dominates every other branch of entertainment and daily life. It's a cultural regression in all departments.
June 18, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, Perelandra said: Absolutely, Yuzu's step sequences are masterpieces. Yuzu has a vision to interpret the music that he has spent time choosing. It is wonderful that he and JB, SLB, DW have been the perfect collaborations to breathe life into each performance. Sorry to harp on about bringing back music from previous seasons, for me as an appreciator of ballet, opera and classical music, this doesn't really make sense. Sometimes exploring novel pieces is great, but if that was always the case nobody would return to theatres or concert halls. Giselle, Turandot, Beethoven's symphonies would have been one season wonders never to be seen again, as a few examples thrown off the top of my head. ( Confession as a terrible hoarder, I came across a programme for a 1976 performance featuring Rudolf Nureyev as the Prince in Sleeping Beauty. How many performances or seasons featured Nureyev in this role throughout his illustrious career? I don't know, but I would be willing to bet there would have been huge outcry if he had never reprised this role ever again once the '76 season finished) I realise competition is different Yuzu's music choices are superb and like all performing arts introduce the audience to new experiences to contemplate and invites them to expand their cultural knowledge base. Yuzu is attempting to create new classics. It does seem sad that in the main this has been met with a cold reception and vastly under- appreciated. Perhaps judges and feds are actually tone deaf amongst other deficiencies We're getting a bit off topic, but... Spoiler didn't NC use old programs in Beijing? For me it's the same as always, searching and searching for something to attack Yuzu with... Nothing to be taken seriously
June 18, 20224 yr Very interesting thread from exclusive practice. Yuzu was wearing black shirt with sparkles. OP wonders if it is for practice only or if we will see it at some point as a gala costume. This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
June 18, 20224 yr Yuzu seems to be showcasing his command of skating, his versatility, artistry and skills set during FaOI. So bringing the topic back on course (phew) it is great to see Yuzu reigniting his joy in skating. It will be exciting to see where this new direction will take him and how it will manifest in his new competition programmes. I hope that some of what has been seen in the shows will herald in a vibrant new cycle. I hope that this cycle will see Yuzu on top of the world
June 18, 20224 yr 42 minutes ago, Pammi said: Yuzu's interview is on Fuji tv in 30 mins I think - I have Japan TV at the ready! I feel excited to see him, but of course I wont understand much of what he says lol! Hope you found out the timing is wrong by now. 😁 You are 1hr earlier.
June 18, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, Henni147 said: ISU, feds and media do their utmost to turn figure skating, what was supposed to be a sport for intellectuals and connoisseurs, into cheap mass industry for the low-demand consuming society that gives 0 about quality and longevity and that more and more dominates every other branch of entertainment and daily life. It's a cultural regression in all departments. And that would only make sense if we saw a trend with the audience actively coming in to tune with this watered down version of the sport. Maybe we could say is a relatively sound financial decision. But is the opposite. They will blame COVID for the fall, but we’ve been watching this happening since at least 2018 (2017?). There’s no foresight at all with them, I honestly can’t phantom what goes on in their minds. (btw thank you for all you’ve been doing for this “fandom” and fs online space). In FaOI news: And there’s no footage… This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
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