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Oh, that's sad... But she's so much better than he is, I guess she would like to aim higher than she can right now, with him ?

I think there's been tension between them after Javi's win at world in 2015 and 2016. And both were visibly very stressed, Javi looked very tired last year. It seems to me that those last month, something happened that made them closer again, and stronger mentally. Yuzu's state of mind seems to have changed a lot lately due to his injury, and I wouldn't be surprised if Javi had been a great moral support for him these last months. Anyway, call it friendship or teammateship (?), their relationship is beautiful.

I hope that the chinese federation will retaliate by asking for the review of the US judge. Honnestly, (s)he's even worse than the chinese one.

Is it the right thread to post this ? Some VERY questionable scoring by the USA and Chinese judges. And an admirable japanese judge. It's really disturbing. There's always some national bias, but here is just completely nuts ? I mean, putting Yuzu in FIFTH place ? Really ? Giving a world record score to Chen, and 25 points higher than Yuzu ??? Putting Vincent Zhou ahead of Yuzu ??? That's just open cheating ! I really hope there will be some investigation. It's as bad a cheating than doping in other sports.

Yuzu also said that he didn't land one in an interview last summer. I guess Max and Miki had false info... Or perhaps he did the rotations but fell, which would explain both versions ?

Le bon côté des choses c'est qu'il y a tellement peu de commentaires sur le patinage artistique que ce n'est pas dur de remonter le niveau moyen

à ce propos, personne ne veut commenter les articles de l'équipe sur le patinage avec moi ? C'est assez désespérant les commentaires, entre les gros racistes qui descendent mae-bérénice Meite et Vanessa Morgan et ceux qui hurlent au scandale à tout bout de champ, y'a personne pour vraiment parler du sport...

J'ai envie de pousser un petit coup de gueule : ça me sidère que Nelson Montfort soit aussi inculte en patinage artistique après avoir commenté la discipline depuis plus de trente ans. Il défie l'entendement... Voilà c'est dit.

I'm cracking up at the french main sports newspaper, who chose a photo of baby mushroom Yuzuru as a profile photo for him https://www.lequipe.fr/Aussi/AussiFicheAthlete40802.html I'm quite surprises they wrote an article about this morning practice. They're barely covering figure skating... https://www.lequipe.fr/Patinage-artistique/Actualites/Patinage-hanyu-est-bien-a-pyeongchang/875374

I love Brian Orser

Yes, as far as we know, they could have just rolled a dice and decided who would be in who's team randomly.

Since Yuzu is taller, his jumps should look smaller, not bigger, relatively... That makes no sense. I'm a physicist, and this sounds a lot like total nonsense to me. Without friction of air and ice, the trajectory is a simple parabola, and that's it, and as was said before there is no way thoses numbers make logical sense. OK, mechanics are not my field, but optics is and the same poster states later that "watch the jumps from a gif is like pretending to watch the stars with binoculars instead of a telescope" and that is just BS. You can still measure the distance between stars with binoculars, so I'm pretty sure you can see in a gif the height of a jump if you know the height of the athlete. It's not even physics, it's basic geometry.

According to that video there are 5 disciplines in rigure skating and ice dance has three programs while the other have two...

sorry to be of topic, but that sounds really interesting - do you have a link, by any chance ?

c'est le genre de problème qu'une fédération pourrait être à même de régler... non ? J'essaie de voir si à côté de chez moi il y a moyen de prendre des cours pour adultes mais c'est de 7h à 8h en semaine, à 15 km de chez moi dans les bouchons... ça va pas le faire.

Oui, je suis d'une génération où toutes les filles rêvaient de faire du patinage, et où se faire une "sortie patinoire" entre copains était commun (je détestais ça ) J'imagine que les vocations n'ont pas dû manquer, au moins à l'époque... c'est triste. Je crois que Brian Joubert essaie de monter sa propre école de patinage, tu sais où il en est ? Est-ce que ça pourrait annoncer une forme de modernisation des écoles de patinage françaises ?

ça ne concerne pas directement Yuzu, mais je viens de lire une discussion très édifiante sur l'état de la fédération française des sports de glace sur le forum passion patinage... Peut-être que ça en intéressera ici ? http://www.passion-patinage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=933&start=650

Yes I'm going to Milan ! With my daughter ! And she likes to sound blasé about figure skating but she totally said that the one she really wanted to see was Yuzu

I have absolutely no hope to convert my husband to figure skating He finds my passion for Yuzu odd, and is bored every time I try to share my enthusiasm but was the first one to tell me I really should go to Milan to watch him live, since he wouldn't come closer to our home anytime soon. My son likes to watch figure skating with me though. But I fear it is because it is a way to watch TV without me telling him he has better other things to do ^^

Yes, the question is, I think, not the place, but if Brian is with Yuzu or not ? I don't think that Brian could be out of Toronto for two weeks, and he also has Javi and Gaby to look after for Pyeongchang. Yuzu trained a lot alone in Japan during the 2015-2016 season - resulting in overtraining and injuries (and unforgettable programs too, of course )

Yeah... two years ago it wouldn't have been a problem, but now it's different.

If you take the team event into account , it's only 2 weeks. But yeah, Taipei is not far from Pyeongchang, so it would be a way to get no jetlag ? Idk.

Well, as I said above, I think Icarus is a good start to form one's own opinion - of course the journalist is american and Rodchenkov is his friend and he shows his point of view, so there is a bias, but still, what is shown about doping in general (not only in russia, in the usa too), Rodchenkov's personnality, and the facts that are shown and which were confirmed by the commissions are a good starting point for each one to build its own idea. And from then, search in reliable medias if there are other points of view. And of course I'm aware that opinions differ, that things are generally much more complicated than they look, and that you can see the same facts completely differently depending on the point of view. But I'm a scientist too, since I'm a researcher in physics, and I know that an opinion is an opinion, but a fact is a fact. Some people may have the opinion that global warming doesn't exist and that God created the earth 6000 years ago, do I have to consider their opinion on the same level than the scientific ones, which are based on proofs and facts ? I reacted because implying that "there is no reliable media, they twist reality" is the open door to the lies and alt facts, imho. Not every opinion has the same value. There is the smal bias, and then there's the outright lie. None of them is the truth, but one of them is still one piece of the puzzle, while the other one goes directly to the trash. (I didn't even give my point of view about the Sotchi doping affair, btw, as it wasn't my point at all)

I respectfully disagree. Reliable, serious media and testimonies still exist, thankfully, and the truth can generally be found once you've read or watched several of said sources. It's just that the truth is never simple. Very happy that Putin won't boycott. I'm very hopefull now. Then if russian athletes go to Peongchang under a "neutral" russian banner, then I think a very diplomatic solution to a very delicate problem would have been found. *crosses fingers* Seriously, though. A ladies event without Zhenia would be so weird. The medals wouldn't have the same value. And she deserves so much to compete !

Perhaps you should still watch it before judging it ? And other sources too ? And make your own opinion based on facts and different testimonies, see who you believe, who you don't ? With that "I don't trust anybody" attitude there's no room for real information and critical mind, and much more room for alt facts. The less you search for the truth, the more room you make for disinformation. "Icarus" was at first a documentary about doping in cycling, after the Lance Armstrong affair. They began filming it years before Sotchi. The idea was : the journalist takes some doping drugs, and films the effects, and talks about doping in sports, especially in america. But the twist is : the guy who advices the journalist right from the beginning about the drugs is Grigorii Rodchenkov. The head of the anti-doping russian agency who was the whistle blower in the russian state doping affair in Sotchi. And they were still filming the documentary when the shit hit the fans, so you see all happening "live". And, yes, it's very eye-opening. And you have facts, but also the personnality of Rodchenkov who is quite a strange man. It's fascinating. And I really hope russian athlete go to peongchang