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Aaaaand last translation (for now) : the french canadian commentary of Yuzu's free skate in Helsinki : It's fab ! I love the tone one of the commentator uses (Alain Goldberg), sometimes he begins his sentences quietly and finishes with a loud, excited voice, and he plays a lot with intonations (okay, some people might find that creepy :grin: ). And visibily, Yuzu tend to make french-speaking commentators turn pretty lyrical because some parts of the commentary sound almost poetic. It is quite literary, with some beautiful words, excellent choice if you're trying to learn some french XD. Of course I'll do my best but part of it will be lost in translation, sorry... (and on a side note, I'm completely in love with french canadian accent ) The commentators are called Jean Pagé and Alain Goldberg. I don't really know anything about them tbh, save from than their names – but they already loved Yuzu at Sochi, I remember their commentary very well (« quand il est bon, qu'est-ce qu'il est bon ! »;) ). I'll call them Alain and Jean. Here we go : *** Alain:… and how to put it, it's going to start quite strongly with Yuzuru Hanyu, from Japan (the « quite » is clearly meant as an euphemism). Fith, yes, fifth !, after the short program... But what a remarkable skater. (first notes from H&L) Alain: And here we go... Awesome skating... Extreme run-up... And he opens with the... quaDRUPLE LOOP ! Exceptional. C2: as if it was nothing. Alain: quaDRUPLE SALCHOW ! … Once again, as if it was nothing. Camel spin. Into a donut spin (french terms for those spins are much prettier than english ones by the way ^^ Pirouette arabesque cambrée) Please admire the elegance, the ease, the casualness, the flexibility ! And the musicality... A truly unique style. Full of strength and lightness at the same time. And there he goes AGAIN with steps – supple, effortless. He's gaining speed... Triple FLIP ! Watch out ... there's no room for errors... Up to now, it's perfect. And now we're halfway through the program. QuaDRUPLE SALCHOW !!! TRIPLE TOE-loop. Per-fec-tion. QUADRUPLE TOE-loop ! There's not even a slight mistake. TRIPLE AXEL ! Double toe-loop. With the hands above the head. We're witnessing something incredible. Once again, the TRIPLE AXEL ! half loop, double toe-loop. And the spread-eagle. (As if) He's saying : « look, and admire » ( :s_yes ) The spin. Long. (And ? Can't hear what he's saying here) The step sequence. Huge flexion (or is flexion the french term for the hydroblade ? Idk) - then he calls some steps by their names but I don't know the english terms And he goes on. Never losing focus. INA BAUER ! Triple LUTZ !!! Camel spin ! Outside edge (I think). And now the sit spin, it's great art. (end of the program) Alain: Gi-gan-tic Moment. Jean (Yes, he talks too... a bit): What an EXTRAORDINARY performance ! YUZURU HANYU ! The supporting crowd is bursting into applause. What an extraordinary performance, Alain. Alain: perfection on ice. Per-fec-tion . At a level, nobody before him has ever reached (he says that twice :) ). In spins, in steps, in jumps, in presentation. Everything was there. What a unique being. (images of the venue and his very emotive fans) And thinking he has to handle the pressure. How difficult it must be to ignore it. Jean: his first Worlds Championships participation was in 2012. So, in order, he's been : 3rd, 4th , 1st , 2nd , 2nd . He's welcomed and congratulated by his coach Brian Orser, who's saying to him « Awesome ! . It was marvellous ». And it's not just anyone saying this (of course they know very well who Brian is and love him) Alain (lauging): Indeed ! Jean: and he's being congratulated by Tracy Wilson too. And it's worth being watched again in slow motion ! Alain: Admire the body language. The 4Lo. He's the only skater in this competition performing this jump (mmm not true anymore). The 4S-3T. 4T. And the way he glides, the landing, the way his movements seem effortless. He really owns his Art. Because when you reach this level it is, truly, Art. (about the ending pose) and here he's saying : « here it is. My gift to you. This program » Jean: he's thanking his coaches. His « senseis » (lol) Alain: it was... listen, I can't give you any commentary (as in : he's speechless). Jean: there wasn't any mistake ! It was absolutely magnificient. He's saying he didn't feel he had enough energy. (they laugh) Thank god ! Oh my friends. Listen. It's 223,20 points. (Alain is laughing) 223, 20 !!! Alain: incredible. Jean: it's his best score this season, he was at 206 this year. Of course he's first, but look at the total score ! 321,59. Yuzuru Hanyu ! Alain (still laughing incredulously): he's just taken the lead for the world champion title. A BIG lead. THE END

Now, french Eurosport Commentary for Yuzu's LP at Helsinki. Gotta love this comment :love: :love: The commentators are Alban Préaubert, Florent Amodio, and a third commentator I dont know, whom I'll call MrX :) Florent's comments are interesting for me since he's r****d in 2016, and lived the begining of « the quad area », and of Yuzu's carreer (he was 5th in WC 2012 in Nice). And I'm particularly happy that Alban (also a former skater) seems enthralled, since he wasn't sold on H&L at all for the rest of the season and sounded disapointed in Yuzu's performance this year. That is, until Helsinki. (and on a side note : pleaaaaase french Eurosport, from now on keep Florent Amodio for the men's singles commentary, instead of Nathalie Péchalat ! Plesase pretty please !) *** the warming-up *** I like what they said about Yuzuru during the warming-up, it's not in the video but I'll translate it nontheless : Florent: (speaking about Javi) he must be really careful, because skating last after all these gentlemen, is really, really not easy (that turned out to be prophetic). And another one who's going to have to handle the pressure is the one we're seeing on our screens, Yuzuru Hanyu, the olympic champion. He's got a lot to gamble here. He's won the world title only once. He's incredible, but he's got a lot to lose today. Alban: It's true it's really incredible to think he's only won the title once, when you look at the high scores he can get. His World Records are pretty crazy, really much higher than any other, but at the same time he's often not been able to handle the pressure when he was close to get the gold. MrX: Still, last year, and the year before, he was second, just behind Fernandez (he's implying it is still a pretty good result) Alban: Yes of course, silver medals are great and all, but knowing Yuzuru Hanyu's talent you can't be happy with it. *** the program in itself*** MrX : aaand it's beginning right now with the japanese skater Yuzuru Hanyu. Olympic champion in Sochi, World Champion in 2014, he's had to make do with the second place those last two years, behind Javier Fernandez. Yuzuru Hanyu, who was in 5th place after the Short Program, and presenting right now a free program on « Hope and Legacy », by Joe Hisaichi. (they're completely silent during the program, bless them :bow: ) MrX : Exceptional ! He's got everything ! Alban : In-cre-di-ble ! Florent: WOW !!!! (They're clapping) MrX : Yuzuru Hanyu's got everything, including the mindset ! And it was not a given. Florent : wow wow wow ! Alban : The first group is now launched :) Florent : hhohohoho wow wow wow ! ( :rofl: ) MrX : What an equilibrium he's managed to find, between a really exceptional technique and a really successful artistic part. He's mind-boggling. Alban : A world record, it's gonna be a world record ! MrX : and he's already the record holder, as you know, of the short program, free program, and total score. Florent : wow ( :grin: ) MrX : what a pressure for the other skaters ! Florent : How powerful, how masterful, how pure ! * sigh * MrX : all the jumps are clean, impecable Alban : I think that when we'll see the protocols there will be +3 GOEs e-ve-ry-where, I cannot imagine another outcome ! (if only, Alban, if only!) The quality of execution is extraordinary, you just can't do better ! Well, we're going to say good luck to the other skaters, but he's raised the bar so high that they're going to need nerves of steel to resist. Well, yes, Fernandez is a bit more than 10 points ahead of him so you never know, but... Florent : it's going to be very, very difficult. With only three quadruple it's going to be very, very difficult to compete with Yuzuru Hanyu. He's done such an elegant program, with such ease. Yes, ease is the word, because he flies on the ice, everything is ethereal, the jumps are majestic... * sigh * Alban : There are transitions everywhere, even before the triple axel ! And they are all extremely complex (thank you Alban :clap: ), and sequences... (he's cut before finishing his sentence) MrX : it's the most beautiful program of his career, and without a doubt one of the most beautiful programs in skating history. Alban : Oh yes ! And yet, we weren't really sold on the artistic side of this program in the beginning of the season, but when the level of the skating is this high, of course, he manages to charm us. Florent : Look at how high the quadruple salchow/triple toeloop is ! And here, the quadruple toeloop ! How masterful ! Alban : skating really goes into another dimension with those skaters. MrX : he reminds me of Medvedeva, he's on another planet, in a class of his own, Florent : and that's where he is remarkable. Because HE's been the one pushing the limits of skating (those last years). Really. Alban : Yes, it's true that he's always been extremely ambitious, eventhough he could have had beautiful victories with only the two quadruples from back then, perhaps with adding a third one. But he goes on, he always wants to go one step further, to add new challenges, a new quadruple loop, a third, a fourth quadruple jump. Soon a fifth one, I imagine. Florent : I think that people in Japan must be overjoyed right now. And Shoma Uno hasn't even skated yet. MrX : he's already a superstar there. Alban : he's already a superstar, and it will stay that way, and even more MrX : 219 points is his own record to beat, which is going to be beaten today Alban : The 220 points bar... reached for the first time probably Florent : Are you ready ? (the score appears) Florent : WOOOW ! MrX : Yes, 223 points for Yuzuru Hanyu Florent : incredible ! Alban : 97 in Pcs, of course, the maximum is 100, we're not far from it. MrX : he improves his previous record by four points. And the total is 321.59 points ! Florent : incredible... (he's laughing nervously) MrX : the total score record is not yet beaten. His record is 330 points, during grand prix final in 2016 (it was 2015, but well, they shocked XD). And of course, he's now in the lead, with a large advance ! (and you can even hear Florent whispering * put...n*, the swear words french people use to manifest a strong emotion, a little bit like *f..k*. Which shows that he's reaaaally shaken, because you don't swear on TV XD) ****

(Just a little note : you may have seen this surrealistic video of Nelson Monfort and Philippe Candeloro interviewing a very disconcerted but smiling Yuzuru in Helsinki - being in awe, talking more than Yuzu (typical :grin: ), and... saying he's an alien :rofl: Perhaps Philippe could sign on this forum XD It's here (thank you all the people who gave me the link ! ^^) : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7HTN ... XNHTENKRzQ

The same three commentators, two years before, for . As enthusiastic as ever, and even more ! (this translation was also done taking Yuzusan's one as a basis, corrected and completed) You'll just need a little bit of context to understand their commentary : in 2012 in Nice, french skaters Brian Joubert and Florent Amodio were respectively 4th and 6th after the SP, and people were hoping one of them at least would medal... which would have happened without a very young japanese prodigee coming (almost) from nowhere *** Nelson Montfort (NM) Philippe Candeloro (PC) Annick Dumont (AD) NM: What a great afternoon, because what we are watching now and are going to watch in the 20 minutes to come is going to be crazy, and I mean it. Because today there is a real chance of medal, bronze or even silver, for one or two french skaters. We won't speculate more about this, that won’t be easy but it's still possible. Now, Yuzuru Hanyu, young Japanese contender, who eliminated Oda at Japan Championship, which is quite an achievement in itself (ahem, Oda didn't compete in 2011 nationals, but, well). He was slightly disappointing yesterday (in the short program), but he could be doing great this afternoon. PC: So, is he going to stay as gentle as a lamb? (It is a (bad) pun about the idiom « être doux comme un agneau » (to be as gentle as a lamb). PC loves doing jokes because lamb=agneau in French and the pronunciation of “agneau” is almost the same as the one “Hanyu”, in french, that is, where we don't prononounce the "h"). We are going to discover that now … this young skater has lots of qualities, look at this quad… it's clean. AD: Wow … OHLALALALA, WOW!!! PC: It's already the fifth quad of the afternoon … (1:19) here the triple axel, with an outstanding preparation, a great eagle just before. It is a very strong start … (1:33) triple flip, no problem, now let's go on (the tone he uses shows that he is in fact ironising about how easy it looks, while it is not easy at all). NM : Let’s notice that this contender is seventh in ranking, just behind our French skater Florent Amodio after the short program. Amodio has managed to invite himself miraculously in the last group. It changes all but, but here we have to wait and see because, this skate here, especially regarding what happened yesterday evening, may put him close to a potential podium or a fourth place. Let's be careful !... PC: Yes because he (Hanyu) may be dangerous -(NM : VERY dangerous) – for Florent. (2:15) PC: Wow triple flip, look, what a flexion work ! AD: Oh …What a … what a sheer will … what a wheer will to hold this jump !!! PC: Normally, this jump should have resulted in a fall on the ground. AD: Of course, he didn’t put his weight where he should have at all ! NM: How did he succeed not to fall … I hope we will see better in slow motion. AD: It is sheer will. Just sheer will. NM: It defies gravity … I really hope we’ll see the slow motion …. [then a bit of uninteresting babble, NM is very chatty :) ]… (2:55, Yuzu falls) The three of them : NOOOOO !!! AD: This is unbelievable … NM: What happened Philippe !... AD: He has gone on the tip (of the skate)… PC: Yes, yes, he toppled on the tip. AD: … it is an edge mistake. A novice mistake … PC: It is not serious, but it still costs 1 point… NM: It wasn't even on a jump ! (3:09) AD+PC: … OooOOOOh triple axel, TRIPLE AXEL !!! …. PC : he goes on without a pause ! AD : OHLALALALA TRIPLE TOE LOOP !!!! THIS SKATER IS FANTASTIC !!!!!!! (they're applauding I think ) PC: As I said yesterday, I've done a few galas with him in Japan last July, he was already really very impressive. (3:24) here triple lutz, double toe loop, followed by another double toe loop… (3:48) perfect triple loop, see, this is an almost perfect program. NM: Despite his novice fault, oh … what a pity, I hope we will see that in a few seconds of course… AD: I think even him could not believe it. PC: I think his hand is injured, because of the way he looked at his hand when he went up after the fall. But the triple axel triple toe just after the fall was just fabulous… So now, (laughing) there's even more, look at this step sequence, he is a very very fast skater…. (4:25) and supported by the audience, especially by the Japanese. There are so many of them this afternoon at Nice's « Palais des Expositions » … (4:47) he is quite light so he can hold the program perhaps a little bit longer, but we can feel he's becoming tired. (4:57) AD: Ohlala, he's given everything, he's absolutely exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. (5:10 (Biellman)) PC: and with spins out of the ordinary, in the men’s category. AD: This is magnificent, this is a sporting feat !!! Really magnificent, oh he can be happy, I think he has no energy anymore, he pushed himself to the limit. I have the impression that he is injured … I don't know where but this fall that no one expected, even himself … he is exhausted. I told you, you can see it PC: I think his hand is injured. AD: I don’t know if it is his hand, or his ankle … I, I don’t know. PC: Look at how much he is sweating, it's impressive ! We haven't seen that for any other skater this afternoon. AD: I think he gave the best of himself, even beyond that. He may collapse before leaving the ice rink…. So many Japanese people in this rink. PC : Now he's doing the ritual japanese salute (little laugh) AD : in any case it's a program with two triple axels, including one in combination. Plus one quadruple jump, that I find absolutely extraordinary and deserving at least 2 GOE points, dear judges. This opening quadruple which arrives with more speed at the end than at the beginning really deserves at least 2 GOE points. As well as the axel by the way, the first one. And then, a fall on a novice mistake! In skating school, we explain that « be careful, there are big tips on the front of the blade and you always should be careful not to attach it into the ice !» NM : The slow motion has begun, and we're very interested about it. AD : Yes. One turn, two turns, three turns, four turns. It's beautiful. Just beautiful. NM : I wish we could watch in slow motion this jump where he stood miraculously, you remember, Annick ? AD : Yes, it's not this one. This one is the triple axel – and he does it with a great eagle just before, let's just say that he makes it even more difficult. (the fall in slow mo) Oh ! He topples on the tip in the middle of a three-turn, in the middle of a counter rocker, to be more precise. And then just after, despite the fall, he goes on with a triple axel and that's particularly impressive. PC : Yes because a little fall like that looks like nothing but can distract a skater in less than two second. AD : Yes it would have distracted more than one skater, don't you think, Philippe ? Really... PC : Oh were it be me, I would have stopped the program right away and then gone to the infirmary ( ). I would have been to ER ! NM : I'm under the impression we won't see his spectacular save on the jump in slow mo. AD : (seeing Nanami Abe with teary eyes) Ooooh this is so moving. (seeing Yuzuru in close-up) Oh my god his face ! (she seems to be moved :) ) NM : So, normally Hanyu should take the lead or we don't understand anything anymore ! AD : Yes, I think so, of course, he should take the lead because... (the score appears) Ohlalalalalala what a lead he has !!! 251 points in total. PD : Wow it's very high, thankfully he's not in the last group, as you said before Nelson, but he's dangerous, very dangerous for our french skaters. NM : what is happening is dangerous for Florent, and dangerous for Joubert too, but we recognize this amazing achievement. And here we see Daisuke Takahashi, his fellow japanese countryman, how lucky we are to see these backstage images. (the end) *** Epilogue : Brian Joubert ended 4th, Florent Amodio 5th... :grin:

Okay I'll repost my translations here. There can be some differences from the ones I posted on GS, because I tend to edit my translations a lot afterwards :) Enjoy ! **** First, SP at Sotchi on french TV : http://www.francetvsport.fr/le-record-de-hanyu-206493 more complete (with the scores annoucement) : https://tinyurl.com/z3xtba8 Original post with the translation by Yuzusan : http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showth ... post926694 I took it as a reference but I completed it, added some storytelling because it's good fun, and changed some sentences in a way that I like better.:-) Enjoy ! You're in for a loooooooong ride because they SPEAK A LOT. :grin: *** The commentators are, as always on french national TV (France Televison), the three musketeers of figure skating comment, those whose lyrical enthusiasm can only match their tendency to talk ALL F...G THE TIME, the very unique Nelson Montfort (NM), Annick Dumont (AD) and Philippe Candeloro (PD). For those who don't know him, Candeloro is a former french skater from back in the days when figure skating was popular in France. He won bronze in Lillehammer and Nagano and is pretty famous here. But first, in order to understand the translation, you must know that, while the competition was broadcast live on France 2, they chose to have the commercial break just... when Yuzuru was skating ! You can admire their sense of timing there :) The broadcast was back just for the scores announcement – which they commented live – and they broadcasted Yuzuru's program just after. Sadly, they already knew the scores so there was less spontaneity than usual. (my translation is after this video, which is the most complete one) *** (in the beginning of the video, the host is speaking about Brian Joubert and Florent Amodio, and then about Plushenko's withdrawal and Jeremy Abbott's fall) 0:40 (Laurent, the Host) I think this is going to be quite an evening, don't you agree, Nelson ? NM : Yes, I concur, Laurent. Now we're in the kiss and cry with the japanese skater Yuzuru Hanyu, who's just... Annick, please describe us... AD : he's just (she's more or less speachless :) )... we're waiting for the scores-OH LA LAAA !!! AD & NM : IT'S A WORLD RECORD !!!!! A WORLD RECORD !!!! PD (hard to hear because the other two are.so.loud) : It's a masterpiece. NM : YUZURU HANYU HAS JUST... IT'S INCREDIBLE !!! AD : IT'S THE FIRST TIME A SCORE IS OVER 100 !!! PD : … on a short program. AD&NM : yes, on a short program. AD : It's incredible ! He did a quadruple-triple combination... I swear, he skated faster when he landed the triple than when he entered the quad. He manages to GAIN speed during the jumps. PD : He's trained by Brian Orser, who can't be in the kiss and cry right now because the skater who's going next is Javier Fernandez, who's also trained by Orser. I can tell you that Yuzuru Hanyu has set the bar really high in this second to last group. It's going to be quite a challenge... (back to the host, speaking again about Brian Joubert (these olympics were his last competition) and telling that Yuzuru Hyanu (sic) 's program is coming next. He also mentions that Brian Joubert and Florent Amodio think that Yuzuru is the most likely to win the competition, or is their favourite skater in this competition, it's not clear. The formulation is ambiguous but in any case it's very nice to hear :) ) 2:10 (Host) Now we're going to watch this absolutely magnificient program. NM : Yuzuru Hanyu is entering in the rink for the Empire of the Rising Sun. Yuzuru Hanyu, who is a skater on the rise, a dainty and delicate skater, who is both a tremendous technician and an absolutely wonderful artist. And here it begins for the cheerful Japanese, with his is oh-so-endearing personality. PC: You're scaring me, Nelson. You're saying he is in on the rise, but he is already at the maximum, and even beyond everybody else. NM: Yeah, in any case we are now watching his program. PC: This skater may do a quintuple jump one day, because it looks like he could do it (Quints ??? whaaaat Philippe FFS !!! ). NM: Gary Moore, the Parisian Walkways, what a marvelous theme – which you know well (I guess he's talking to PC). PC: It is a very good musical choice… the rythm of this program is perfect for the first part of an event with such high stakes as the Olympics Games. Look at this, right now, the quad toe loop. AD: Ohlala what amazing skating skills !... PC: He's quite happy that the jump is clean, and he's celebrating. And here, he earns also many, many points with his spins. With his flexibility... He's a skater who can bend and twist himself in all directions while keeping a perfect edge… But it's true ! It's not easy at all ! When we have a stronger musculature, it is harder to do this … Brian (Joubert) would agree with me on this. This kind of detail makes all the difference (for the win) … (1:45) and now normally, he's got an innovative preparation for the triple axel, he's the only one to do it… Here, without any preparation. NM: A little dance step, and then... triple axel ! PC: Exactly, and it earns many points regarding a percentage that Annick will perhaps be able to explain. AD: It gives points on what we call “Transitions”. Each time you do a jump’s preparation that is not classic … PC: And here (2:19) he does it again with the triple lutz, triple toe loop, a perfect combination… AD: … (going on with her explanations) and so he earns points on what we call “Components” (PCS). A few years back, we called that “the second mark”, and we're going to keep on calling it like this because it's basically the same thing, and it's much easier to understand this way… At 2:33 Nelson Montfort specifies something for French people. Because AD has pronounced “Components” in English, while in French, we translate “components” by “composantes” (different pronunciation). But she used the English word so it can disturb French who don’t know English. (2:40) AD: Yeah and “Components” regroup five criteria of the second mark which are transitions, the choreography, the interpretation, the skating skills (the speed, the lightness of the skating) and the performance/execution. This system tries to make more credible what we (in France) would call “creativity”. NM: So, Philippe are you ready for the test? (after this skating lesson by Annick Dumont ). AD: I’m ready (laughing) PC: He really skated very well this program, it was a very good choice (of music) and his order of passage has certainly made him more confident and disconcerted Patrick Chan, who has not been perfect but still stayed focused. NM: So, we've just witnessed the program which is, at the moment, the best short program in all skating History, at least since the new ISU judging system has been adopted, ten years ago. Since Yuzuru Hanyu scored more than 100 points. AD : He's had 101.45 points. He's just beaten his own record btw, since he was already the current world record holder. But he hadn't reached the 100 points bar until now, he « only » had 98-99 points. PC : Yeah, we could say he had kept a little margin for himself. (laughing) (then they speak about other skaters) THE END ***

Bonjour à tous ! Le français est votre langue maternelle et vous rêvez de l'utiliser pour discuter de votre patineur préféré ? Vous n'êtes pas à l'aise en anglais mais vous voulez quand même participer activement à notre communauté ? Vous voulez rencontrer d'autres fans francophones de Yuzuru avec qui partager votre enthousiasme ? Vous apprenez le français et voulez vous entrainer en discutant avec des francophones sur votre sujet préféré ? J'ai une excellente nouvelle pour vous : vous êtes au bon endroit !!! :yay:

Hi, so happy to be there \o/ Just a few quick questions (a bit french-oriented, sorry ): - do you still need a french translation of the video about all the details of Yuzu's FS at Helsinki ? - where is the best place to re-post my very own translations of french commentaries ? - can I open a topic for french Yuzu fans on the international talk subforum ? - how can I help ? Once a gain, KUDOS and a big THANK YOU for being such amazing fans