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I pulled the info from this article, which cites skatingscores.com: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/01/24/jason-brown-national-championships/ To find the info on Skating Scores, it's not obvious...looks like it requires clicking through every protocol from Jason's competitions to find it.

I researched a bit more, and as of US Nationals this year, he's made 17 attempts at quads in competition, 3 of which were awarded full rotation. So okay, maybe not the greatest, but he's getting there. I just don't think it's correct or fair to discount and dismiss any athlete's determination and hard work and years of perseverance out of hand with " Oh they're dreaming, they're too old, they're never gonna make it, they should just give up already and make room for the young'uns". The fact is, quads have only been jumped in competition for about 30 years now. That's hardly long enough to know if there's really an age limit on when you can gain one as an elite skater. I think the human body is an astounding thing, capable of so much more than we know. It behooves no one to say something is impossible for an athlete who is working hard at it. After all, Yuzu has been talking about and working at 4A for years, and he's 25, but no one here is saying he's never going to get there. So why say it for Zhenya? As long as she doesn't give up on trying, the possibility is there.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/10/23/jason-brown-quad-silver-skate-america/92649166/ He's landed it in competition.

My final word on women's quads, and women's skating in general: I just don't buy into the age narrative and this crappy sexist idea that as a woman, you're washed up at 18. It's utter tripe.

What I'm thinking is that, with people like the 3 A's having multiple quads, if, as a woman skater, you are going to pursue quads, then you have to go all in and try to get more than one. Or get one plus a really, really good triple axel. It's not enough to just have one. Anyway, if anyone can get Zhenya to the point of jumping a quad, it's the TCC crew. People said it was impossible for Jason, and here he is with a working 4S.

Understandable, but I'm also old enough to know that there could be a lot more to the story that we don't get to see so I'm willing to keep an open mind. Also, remember that nothing Zhenya did was ever against the law and Japan never issued any quarantine 'orders' as such (because they're not allowed to, as per their constitution). All the pandemic measures were requests by the various governments, but only requests. Appeals to conscience, as it were. Yes it says something that she acted the way she did, but on the other hand, there was no legal reason for her to refrain from going about her business. The part that made me facepalm was her response to criticism on social media. She could have just ignored those comments, instead of engaging with them in a, hmm, shall we say, non-productive way. Anyway, given that those tabloids couldn't even be straightforward about the fact that she was going back to Russia, I'm not going to read too much into what they claim she said about quads. If Tuktumysheva can get a quad toe at 21, Zhenya can get a quad sal, of that I'm sure. Whether it's worth it is another story.

So why didn't Flash and Josei Jishin say so? Instead they made it sound super mysterious and let everyone think suspicious thoughts. As for why she spoke to them, maybe they were hounding her for interviews this whole time and she thought that if she gives them a little, they'll leave her alone? It wouldn't be unheard of. IMO, she needs someone handling her PR and her social media for her, stat.

Same.

I have more of a James Bond image. It's about time Bond was Japanese, no? But for your vision: Rhapsody in Blue, most definitely

For real, he would look so handsome in a tux.

the rest of us too - it's easy to forget that he's been next to Yuzu on the podium now at 3 competitions in the past year. That's a lot. basically every competition they were at together in 2019-20.

I'm thinking she intends to quit competition after Beijing, provided she qualifies for Beijing.

They didn't say outright that she went to Canada, just that she left Japan and went to 'the practice base' - I think they mean Canada, but it could mean somewhere else too. Anyway, despite the fact that Canada's border's are closed, people are still arriving: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/thousands-of-travellers-still-arriving-in-canada-despite-border-restrictions-1.4955403 but she'll have to quarantine for another 14 days. In the height of summer in a downtown Toronto apartment. It would not be my choice of ways to spend time.

How sweet is it that Yuzu chased after him for a selfie? So cute.

No tickets are on sale for either event yet. No details available either. The only thing there is, is ACI has the call for volunteers open. The deadline for cancelling is 10 weeks before. Which for SCI means sometime around mid-August.

ISU shenanigans are a valid reason to not want to watch figure skating, for sure.

If they're going with the way-back machine for the lifetime achievement awards, there's a lot of older generation skaters who would deserve it ahead of Kurt, but he's still the only one actively skating so maybe that's why? Or maybe Ari is his agent too. In all fairness, Shae is the most successful choreographer in the world right now, and out of all the clowniness of this farce, she's the one who I feel most genuinely deserves an award, other than Yuzu. The entire gold medal winning team, except for Gabby, retired from skating, and the country's not THAT big. It takes a while to rebuild. We'll get there again. I know. It's just disgusting.

Oh come on, it has a certain jaw-dropping quality.

thanks for doing this. That's not what I would have expected at all...Rika is ahead of Yuzu? Somehow that seems really cute to me...like 'senpai, try and keep up!"

Hersh makes me so annoyed with his jingoistic reporting...and I grew up reading American media, I should be used to jingoistic by now. Well, as it turns out, even if I want to see the awards for the sake of confirming my own bias that they're a bad idea, I might not be able to. One of my Dutch cousins is getting married the same day and promised to livestream the ceremony if he can, since no one can travel to it anymore...famliy wedding vs ISU being their dunce selves...yeah no contest.

He's amazing, isn't he? Besides being a top level skater, he's a child actor (i don't know if he still does it), dancer, model, and now singer. AND he's starting university. Kind of incredible. the only thing that would make it better is if he were going to Yale, too.

Exactly! To me, this is idea forms part of the basis of good sportsmanship.

In fact, Yuzu has said on more than one occasion that this would be his preferred way to win - for everyone to do amazing and have their best skates ever, and for himself to still win because his skating was the best of all.

To each their own, really. If someone wants to put up banners for every single skater because that's what they think is fun, then let them design, print, pay for, and put up said banners without hindrance, but don't expect me to participate. On the other hand, also don't expect me to tell them they're wrong and should stop. It's important to realize all these arguments work in reverse, too - last thing I want is someone telling me that I'm not a 'real' Yuzu fan because I happen to cheer for, say, Piper and Paul, as well. About the folks who say they're only watching figure skating for Yuzu (aka, they're only watching Yuzu) 1. Don't you think that this would make him sad? He loves figure skating so much and wants us all to enjoy it in all it's many forms and has said so in interviews. 2. Those fans are quite free to do what makes them happy, provided they don't interfere with anyone else's enjoyment. For example, if you're at a live competition, don't disturb the rest of the audience by constantly moving around the stands and in and out of your seat while every else is trying to watch non-Yuzu skaters, because that's just rude. 3. I personally wish for those fans to learn to enjoy all of figure skating because everywhere you look, there's amazing stuff being done in this sport. It's not just Yuzu. But that is because I think they're missing out on even more joy. 4. Certain of the 'only Yuzu' fans engage in some really scary, stalking-like behaviours towards him. This may be why certain other fans look at them askance. But that has little to do with what we're talking about and more to do with other issues. 5. The whole 'you're not a 'real' FS fan argument smacks of gate-keeping to me. It's like saying, "only people who still mourn the 6.0 system can be real fans" or "only people who study the rule book obsessively can be real fans". Some people are going to be in it for different reasons than others, that's just life.

Hey, he's not the only one who gets banners and stuffies! Lots of skaters have a following. Although he's the only one who gets Pooh rain!