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Random thought: Doesn't the ESPN Fame 100 usually come out in March? Yuzu was 70 in 2018. 64 in 2019. Will the Google year in search boost his ranking this year? I still don't really get the search score metric. It seems that higher is better but there's some athletes that are really high on the list with a low search score and others that are really low that have a high search score.
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Unfortunately if you want good seats, you're stuck paying for all event tickets and if I'm spending that much to go to Sweden, I wouldn't settle for crappy seats. Just a few months ago I was debating whether I should spend money on tickets to Montreal because the tickets were so expensive and now I'm contemplating spending even more to go to Sweden for worlds! What has he done to me?!? My biggest fear is that I'll spend $3-4k and he won't be there for some reason. But I guess it will give more time for sight seeing since I won't care about the practices.
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yep. weird that barbara can see it but it's geoblocked for me I'm sure the only reason that the views are so low is because of the geoblocking.
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2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
Damn. That was a disappointing and abrupt end to the season. Congrats to sallycinnamon and river for gold and @LadyLou for bronze! @airi @Legacy and Hope @Louitunes @mercedes @Paskud @ralucutzagy @river @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @Sukigirl @TeaFrida @Figure_Frenzy I've already been thinking about next year's game. If Yuzu continues next year, I’m planning to do this again for the major events and events Yuzu enters. The tentative schedule is Autumn Classic (assuming he enters again), the Grand Prix, Euros, 4CC, Worlds, and WTT. Possibly even Russia and JPN Nats but I can see how that might be a bit of an overwhelming commitment. Let me know if you have any ideas for improvement. If the questions are too hard or too many or the schedule too long and causing you to not enjoy the game as much, let me know. -
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Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@airi @LadyLou @Legacy and Hope @Louitunes @mercedes @Paskud @ralucutzagy @river @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @Sukigirl @TeaFrida @Figure_Frenzy Time crept up on me! Here's the form for the worlds prediction game. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd3X8W7If5cI7em5cYN4xp0cK3zxTYWTMCt3NafvcP8sy3aMg/viewform?usp=pp_url Entries are here: http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent03111969.htm -
Lol. This discussion reminds me of a conversation I had with my gaming group on Friday. Me: looking at Yuzu pics instead of paying attention to the game. "He has perfect skin and he doesn't even wear any makeup" Friend: "He at least wears eyeliner" Me: shows first closeup of Yuzu's eyes I find. "No he doesn't. Look" Friend: "Okay. But you think that's perfect skin?" Me: "That's just the contrast on the photo." Turns to hubby. "you've seen him in real life. Doesn't his skin look even better in real life?" Husband: Yes, but still convinced that he's lying about not wearing makeup. Me: Shows friend different pictures of Yuzu. Friend: "I see contour" Me: "There's no way he could be wearing makeup. He sweats too much" Husband: "There's makeup that's made to last through that" Me: "But he's constantly wiping it off. There's no makeup that stays on through that" Me: shows friend another picture Friend: "You can see the photo shopping in the neck" Me: "No... I've seen him in real life. His neck really is that long" Husband and friends: convinced that I'm just some delusional fangurl. Me: How do you convince someone that a person can be naturally that beautiful? It took me over a year to accept it myself and then I was still amazed when I saw it in person.
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2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
Looks like my eville plan worked. sallycinnamon managed to pull into a tie for the lead with river so we'll have a real competition for gold in the overall by worlds. The bronze medal is only 3 points apart for 3 of us. Overall scores including Autumn Classic - I omitted people who missed more than 1 event river 332 21 28 19 28 34 32 37 42 25 25 41 sallycinnamon 332 25 32 22 28 23 29 31 46 19 28 49 Old Cat Lady 307 21 22 21 32 23 32 31 44 20 24 37 LadyLou 305 28 31 20 30 25 22 27 44 17 25 36 airi 304 20 23 24 30 32 33 25 42 21 21 33 Paskud 260 15 23 23 23 29 33 25 34 23 32 Louitunes 250 22 23 17 20 23 30 36 17 26 36 TeaFrida 245 18 25 22 23 21 24 44 19 22 27 -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@LadyLou @river @Paskud @airi @Louitunes @TeaFrida @ralucutzagy @Sayu93 @Figure_Frenzy @sallycinnamon As usual, I don't claim accuracy so here's a spreadsheet of everyone's answers. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OUiN1fTeRBdZgJCuOuhfkiMSiWyj1UoCLHZf__vFFBs/edit?usp=sharing Just a reminder that the scoring for questions 8-10 is -1 for each incorrect answer, +1 for each correct e.g. on BQ8, if you guessed 1 discipline wrong, it meant you only got 2 points because it was scored as +3 for correct answers - 1 for the incorrect one = 2 total. On reflection, this doesn't make a ton of sense but since I stated it that way on the form, I scored it that way. Team Japan scored surprisingly well - all the singles skaters scored higher at 4CC than at nationals. Answer Key Ladies Podium 1. Rika Kihira 2. Young 3. Tennell 4. Higuchi Pairs Podium 1. Sui/Han 2. Peng/Jin 3. KMT/Marinaro 4. Calalang/Johnson Dance Podium 1. Chock/Bates 2. Gilles/Poirier 3. Hubbell/Donohue 4. Wang/Liu BQ1: Will the cumulative score of the gold medalists from 4cc or Euros be higher? Europeans 968.7 962.45 BQ2: Will Yuzu attempt 4axel in either practice or competition? No BQ3: Will any ice dancer that finishes in the top 8 receive a negative GOE on any element? Hawayek/Baker RD Min/Eaton RD Soucisse/Firus FD BQ4: Will team USA, team Canada, or team JPN get the most medals? USA 4 BQ5: Who will have the highest raw PCS score combined across both segments? Yuzu 94.04 BQ6: Will anyone in the top 6 of any discipline LAND a jump or combo with positive GOE that they have never before landed? No BQ7: Will any of the medalists get a higher PCS score than TES score in either segment? Jason Brown FS Sui/Han FS Peng/Jin FS BQ8: In which disciplines, will the 4CC champion score higher than the Euros champion (+1 point for each correct, -1 for each incorrect) Men BQ9: Which members of Team Japan will score higher than at Nationals? (+1 point for each correct, -1 for each incorrect) Yuzu 299.42 Kazuki Tomono 274.82 Yuma Kagiyama 270.61 Rika Kihira 232.34 Kaori Sakamoto 202.79 Wakaba Higuchi 207.46 BQ10: In which segments, will we see either an individual 10 (e.g. if only 1 of the 9 judges gives a 10 for SS, it counts) from any judge or an element with a composite +5 GOE before factoring (trimmed mean of raw score). +1 for each correct, -1 for each incorrect Men's SP Yuzu - five 10's RESULT Ladies Pairs Dance BQ1 BQ2 BQ3 BQ4 BQ5 BQ6 BQ7 BQ8 BQ9 BQ10 Total Points sallycinnamon 9 9 5 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 4 2 8 49 Figure Frenzy 4 9 6 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 4 4 6 45 ralucutzagy 9 9 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 4 2 2 42 river 5 9 5 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 4 0 6 41 Old Cat Lady 9 9 5 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 2 4 37 LadyLou 6 9 5 2 0 2 2 2 0 2 4 0 2 36 Louitunes 9 9 5 0 2 0 0 2 0 2 3 2 2 36 airi 5 5 5 0 2 0 2 2 2 2 4 0 4 33 Paskud 6 5 5 0 0 2 2 0 2 2 4 2 2 32 Sayu93 3 9 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 4 -4 4 30 TeaFrida 4 9 0 2 2 2 0 2 0 0 2 2 2 27 -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@mercedes @Legacy and Hope @Sukigirl @TeaFrida 1 hour and 40 minutes until the rhythm dance if you guys or anyone else still wants to play this round -
got the news about the program change just in time. i was just about to dye my hair origin purple to see how it would look for worlds. hmm - don’t think pale blue would work in nearly black hair without frying it blond first. will have to think of some other ridiculous way to show my spirit that requires no real talent is the time deduction the same no matter how much you go over? would be hilarious if he just skated his dream Seimei with original music. the field at 4cc is watered down enough that he could spare the deduction as long as he doesn’t implode - and frankly, he spotted the field more last year with the 4t/3a seq but obviously it’s smarter to get mileage on his competition program if he’s taking it to worlds. though if that extra 30 seconds means he can better execute the elements, it would be worth the trade IF he actually gets goe that reflected it
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2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@airi @LadyLou @Legacy and Hope @Louitunes @mercedes @Paskud @ralucutzagy @river @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @Sukigirl @TeaFrida @Figure_Frenzy I have the form for 4CC ready as well. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScP6CfbKuM0zcFFDb9F_Ltf6EqP45za11I1tgQibMAdwPBI1A/viewform?usp=pp_url Not all the entrants are in yet but here's a link http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent03111955.htm Let me know if you think any of the questions look like they might lead to any confusion. I also made a slight change to the scoring format. As usual, I omitted the men's podium from the predictions because of jinx factor and added extra bonus questions. But in this one, for the 3 questions in which you can check multiple boxes, I'm going to score it so you get 1 point for each correct answer, but subtract one point for each one you get wrong, meaning questions 8-10 are worth anywhere from -20 to +20 points. -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
This was a bit of a learning experience - I found that the questions needed to be adjusted when there's a bigger field. There were a few wording problems with the questions so I dropped the 5th BQ and on the 3rd BQ, nobody got +5 GOE elements either before or after factoring so luckily it didn't affect the score. I gave everyone the points since I did not give a tie option. Remember I have the accuracy of an average technical panel so here are everyone's answers so you can check your score - don't hesitate to speak up if something is off. I've long accepted that I'm quite absent minded https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SCQsBd-R2AY3j6RqUT0-BK5AvfEvde6su0qYNwAb5FE/edit?usp=sharing Answer Key Men's Podium 1. Dmitri Aliev 2. Artur Danielian 3. Morisi Kvitelashvili 4. Daniel Grassl Ladies Podium 1. Kostornaya 2. Scherbakova 3. Trusova 4. Paganini Pairs Podium 1. Boikova/Kozlovskii 2. Tarasova/Morozov 3. Pavliuchenko/Khodykin 4. Della Monica/Guarise Dance Podium 1. Sinitsina/Katsalapov 2. Papadakis/Cizeron 3. Stepanova/Bukin 4. Guignard/Fabbri BQ1: Will any competitor attempt a combo or jump that they have never previously landed? yes - Grassl - 4lo/3t Possibly more but I stopped as soon as I found one BQ2: Will the men's or ladies' medalists have a higher FS TES Men 269.09 259.07 BQ3: Will there be more +5 final GOE elements after factoring by Papadakis/Cizeron or the rest of the field in all disciplines combined? Tie - no +5 GOE elements BQ4: Will there be a greater than 5 placement difference between final placement and any phase of competition in any of the disciplines? Yes Daniel Grassl 4th overall 11th in SP Michel Brezina 7th overall 1st in SP Vladimir Litvintsev 9th overall 17th in SP Adam Siao Him Fa 11th overall 24th in SP Alexander Selevko 16th overall 9th in SP Larry Loupolover 23rd overall 16th in SP Viktoriia Safonova 14th overall 20th in SP Lean Serna 16th overall 10th in SP Anita Ostlund 18th overall 9th in SP EVENT RESULT Men Ladies Pairs Dance BQ1 BQ2 BQ3 BQ4 Total Points sallycinnamon 1 5 9 5 2 2 2 2 28 Louitunes 1 9 9 5 0 0 2 0 26 ralucutzagy 3 5 9 5 0 2 2 0 26 LadyLou 0 9 9 5 0 0 2 0 25 river 0 5 9 5 2 0 2 2 25 Old Cat Lady 0 5 9 4 2 0 2 2 24 Figure Frenzy 0 9 9 1 0 0 2 2 23 Sayu93 3 5 6 3 2 0 2 2 23 TeaFrida 0 5 9 2 2 0 2 2 22 airi 2 2 9 2 2 0 2 2 21 Congrats to our medalists! I believe this was the most tightly contested event. Sorry about the mishaps along the way. If Yuzu keeps competing, this will be a practice run for the games coming up so hopefully I work out the kinks. River still has quite the lead in the overall so I think I'm going to rig the bonus questions to give people a chance to catch up - just like the real ISU Of course, the likelihood is that she'll end up lapping us since I'll still try to make it actually fair. @airi @Figure_Frenzy @LadyLou @Louitunes @mercedes @ralucutzagy @river @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @TeaFrida -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
Yup. I meant individual placements. Also, I realized I worded BQ5 horribly in an attempt to give you guys new questions. The Euros field is so big that skaters are inevitably going to compete against skaters they haven't competed against this season. I'm thinking I'll eliminate that question from the scoring because I can see how people might misinterpret that question and I'm not trying to "get" people with trick questions, especially since not everyone speaks English as their first language. If anyone has any suggestions on a different way to deal with it, let me know -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
OMG! I just realized that I forgot about Papadakis/Cizeron when doing my predictions even though they're in one of the questions that I made! Not going to change it since the only reason I caught it was because I was checking who got their predictions in - feels like cheating since no one else gets that @Sayu93 Can you specify the order of the Triple A? I only give points within 1 placement difference so can't assume points without knowing who's where. As long as it's changed before the ladies SP you can still get full credit. Also, for everyone - if you don't specify placement I assume you mean in the order that you listed them. -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@Legacy and Hope @mercedes @Paskud @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @Sukigirl @TeaFrida Just a reminder that there's 5 more hours before the beginning of the event if you still want to play this round. If you get it in late, just skip the men's predictions and you can do the rest. Also, anyone is welcome to join if they want to play and I'll add you to the notification list. -
2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@airi @Figure_Frenzy @LadyLou @Legacy and Hope @Louitunes @mercedes @Paskud @ralucutzagy @river @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @Sukigirl @TeaFrida I've been on vacation for the last week and didn't realize Europeans was so soon. Sorry, if this is a little late but here's the form if people still want to play. Deadline is when the first skater steps on the ice for his SP, which I believe is the men's SP in 5 days, 2.5 hours. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfZn_qmQVqMnDnTMpxRIx9y7PXr-67hGgvO1lLAX3hEqpSiUA/viewform?usp=pp_url eta: forgot the entries for Europeans http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1920/ec2020/ I changed the title to include the other ISU events but if you guys think it's easier to have a separate thread, let me know. I also corrected previous scores - we didn't do quite as abysmally as I thought on the GPF - I had the formula wrong for the totals and I fixed Legacy and Hope's score to BQ8. Here's updated totals - sorry about that. I'll make sure to post the spreadsheet to all the answers so people can check their scores. Grand Prix Final Scores Ladies Pairs Dance BQ1 BQ2 BQ3 BQ4 BQ5 BQ6 BQ7 BQ8 BQ9 BQ10 Total Points river 2 3 6 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 0 2 0 25 Paskud 5 4 4 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 23 Legacy and Hope 2 4 3 2 2 2 0 2 2 0 2 2 0 23 Sayu93 6 7 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 airi 5 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 21 Old Cat Lady 5 1 6 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 20 sallycinnamon 2 3 6 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 19 TeaFrida 2 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 19 Louitunes 4 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 17 ralucutzagy 3 4 4 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 17 LadyLou 2 1 6 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 17 Figure Frenzy 5 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 16 Sukigirl 2 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 16 mercedes 0 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 15 Overall Grand Prix Series Total Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK Qualifying GPF river 245 28 19 28 34 32 37 42 25 Legacy and Hope 236 31 23 31 25 31 32 40 23 airi 230 23 24 30 32 33 25 42 21 sallycinnamon 230 32 22 28 23 29 31 46 19 Old Cat Lady 225 22 21 32 23 32 31 44 20 LadyLou 216 31 20 30 25 22 27 44 17 Paskud 213 23 23 23 29 33 25 34 23 mercedes 196 25 21 30 24 23 24 34 15 TeaFrida 196 18 25 22 23 21 24 44 19 Louitunes 188 22 23 17 20 23 30 36 17 ralucutzagy 155 22 27 26 32 31 17 Sukigirl 107 31 33 27 16 Sayu93 102 24 26 30 22 Figure_Frenzy 93 22 26 29 16 Grand Prix event Averages Ave Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK GPF river 29.00 28 19 28 34 32 37 25 Legacy and Hope 28.00 31 23 31 25 31 32 23 airi 26.86 23 24 30 32 33 25 21 Sukigirl 26.75 31 33 27 16 sallycinnamon 26.29 32 22 28 23 29 31 19 Old Cat Lady 25.86 22 21 32 23 32 31 20 ralucutzagy 25.83 22 27 26 32 31 17 Paskud 25.57 23 23 23 29 33 25 23 Sayu93 25.50 24 26 30 22 LadyLou 24.57 31 20 30 25 22 27 17 Figure_Frenzy 23.25 22 26 29 16 mercedes 23.14 25 21 30 24 23 24 15 Louitunes 21.71 22 23 17 20 23 30 17 TeaFrida 21.71 18 25 22 23 21 24 19 Overall Season Scores - Includes Autumn Classic Scores Total Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK GPF Qualifying GPF Autumn Classic river 266 28 19 28 34 32 37 42 25 21 sallycinnamon 255 32 22 28 23 29 31 46 19 25 airi 250 23 24 30 32 33 25 42 21 20 Old Cat Lady 246 22 21 32 23 32 31 44 20 21 LadyLou 244 31 20 30 25 22 27 44 17 28 Legacy and Hope 236 31 23 31 25 31 32 40 23 Paskud 228 23 23 23 29 33 25 34 23 15 mercedes 206 25 21 30 24 23 24 34 15 10 TeaFrida 196 18 25 22 23 21 24 44 19 Louitunes 188 22 23 17 20 23 30 36 17 ralucutzagy 155 22 27 26 32 31 17 Sukigirl 107 31 33 27 16 Sayu93 102 24 26 30 22 Figure_Frenzy 93 22 26 29 16 -
Nothing controversial. They just explained who he is: 1:02 Yuzuru Hanyu - Japan (Figure Skating): 2x Olympic Champion, 2x World Champion, 4x Grand Prix Final Champion. 🙌
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As a side comment, it's hilarious when Yuzu gets mentioned in famous mixed company platforms. The Google year in search is overrun with majority Yuzu comments with a few befuddled "why is everyone talking about this Yuzuru Hanyu guy?" comments. I wonder what people running these things think when the reaction is mostly about a 1 second clip of this guy that most of them have probably barely heard of. ISU has a comment there too - how do they not know at this point that the reaction is going to be bad any time they get involved with a Yuzu thing?
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I think Nathan's only ever landed it once at 2017 U.S. Classic. I know he had hip surgery (due to growth issues) in his junior days but no reason was given for why he dropped it after that. Literally every 4s that I've ever seen Shoma land has been ur around a quarter and I think most of his attempts are either popped or fall. He landed the 4lo 7 times in 2017 and 2018 but not since JPN nats and I heard he had to change the position of his blade in order to do it and has since changed it back. I feel pretty confident that loop is completely gone. I thought Yuzu wasn't in Faoi this coming year. But that's offset by all the things he'll be doing for the Olympics so not sure if he'll be any less busy I admit to listening to them but only because I have a masochistic compulsion to listen to anything that might be Yuzu related. But one of the things that struck me is how poorly they understand the scoring system. More than the average fans, but I really cringed a lot last year when Dave would explain the scoring system to the fans. Jonathon at least doesn't pretend to know. However, I think Jonathon has improved a lot over the years (in the past, he was really just a casual fan that happened to be friends with Dave - clearly knew nothing about scoring and didn't watch all the events) and tends to at least ask the more insightful questions and is more fair in his observations. Dave I think is obviously influenced by his bias but I've noticed that when he gets enough feedback he eventually can bend his views (though he never acknowledges that he may have been wrong previously). E.G. last year, Dave would score Nathan's spins +4 but in this recent video, he talked about how awful Nathan's flying camel is for a skater of this level. He also went from talking about how Shoma deserved a +4 (?) for his 4flip and defended that score in the comments when people inevitably disputed that score but in a later video he talked about how he had to reduce the GOE because of the poor entry
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2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
This was a disaster for everyone so you still finished 2nd. This is by far the lowest scoring event. Everyone's answers - let me know if something doesn't look right: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QP4jngmC7nCTesXD31DsChJG9KqwGNMnvTfI72QnN7c/edit?usp=sharing ralucutzagy was the only one to guess Scherbakova for silver. Sayu93 was the only one to guess Trusova for bronze. Everyone picked Boikova/Kozlovskii for either silver or gold. No one picked Mishina/Galliamov to medal. We were unanimous in answering top 2 for BQ8 and we were unanimously wrong. Yuzu+Yale got almost twice as many quads as the rest of the field, but everyone except Aliev hit all their 3 axels so they were able to squeak ahead. Y+Y got 15 (16 if you count Yuzu's 4t in the 4t/e/3f - I didn't even though the toe was obviously clean because my definition of "clean" is positive GOE and it doesn't get scored separately) vs. 17 for the rest There was a tie for number of ladies 3 axels vs. quads. Since I didn't have tie as an option, I gave everyone the points considering our scores are sad enough as is. I realized that the wording for BQ7 was a bit ambiguous - I meant 2019 worlds + this year's grand prix events. I worded it "qualifying events", which I think everyone could only take to mean this year's grand prix events so I kept that but for "worlds" I took into consideration all previous worlds since I didn't specify which one. Luckily, I don't believe it affected the answer because Stepanova/Bukin have never beaten Sinitsina/Katsalapov at a worlds. We were also unanimously wrong for BQ10, with 13 answering Jin and 1 Tennell I did not count Yuzu's 3a/3a for BQ2 because I forgot about sequences and the wording of my question was "combo", though that did not affect the answer. Shockingly, Chen did not get +5 for his choreo seq., though that did not really affect the game results. Segment ranking: Ladies Pairs Dance BQ1 BQ2 BQ3 BQ4 BQ5 BQ6 BQ7 BQ8 BQ9 BQ10 Total Points Sayu93 6 7 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 river 2 3 6 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 0 2 0 21 Paskud 5 4 4 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 19 airi 5 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 17 Legacy and Hope 2 4 3 2 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 2 0 17 sallycinnamon 2 3 6 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 17 Old Cat Lady 5 1 6 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 16 LadyLou 2 1 6 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 15 Louitunes 4 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 15 Figure Frenzy 5 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 14 Sukigirl 2 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 14 ralucutzagy 3 4 4 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 13 TeaFrida 2 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 13 mercedes 0 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 9 Answer Key Ladies Podium 1. Kostornaya 2. Scherbakova 3. Trusova 4. Kihira Pairs Podium 1. Sui/Han 2. Peng/Jin 3. Mishina/Galliamov 4. Boikova/Kozlovskii Dance Podium 1. Papadakis/Cizeron 2. Chock/Bates 3. Hubbell/Donohue 4. Stepanova/Bukin BQ1: Which discipline will have the most 10's and +5 GOE elements before factoring? Dance: Papadakis/Cizeron FD - SILi4 Composition Interpretation BQ2: Will anyone attempt a jump or combo that they have not previously landed? Yes Trusova: 4f, 3a Kihira: 4s Scherbakova: 4f BQ3: In ladies, will there be more clean quads or 3 axels? Tie 3a - 4 Kostornaya:3, Kihira: 1 quads - 4 Trusova: 4f, 4lz, 4t Scherbakova: 4lz BQ4: Will anyone in singles or pairs have all Level 4's, positive GOE's, and no pops? No Kostornaya & Chen both got vl 3 on their FS stsq BQ5: In which disciplines will we have a new WORLD record? Ladies SP, Total Men FS, Total BQ6: In ice dance, will any of the medalists finish lower in the Free Dance than the overall? No BQ7: In ice dance, will any couple defeat a couple that they have not beaten either at worlds or during their GP qualifying events? Yes Stepanova/Bukin defeated Sinitsina/Katsalapov BQ8: In the men's event, will there be more clean quads + 3 axels landed by the top 2 or by 3-6? 3-6 Top 2: 12 a, 3 3a=15 Doesn't count Yuzu's 4t/e/3f because combo got neg GOE 3-6: 7 q, 10 3a=17 BQ9: Will the largest point margin be between 1st and 3rd in men or between 1st and 6th of one of the other disciplines? Men 1 to 3 59.67 BQ10: Who will have the largest point disparity from their worst GP event and their best (including GPF)? Aliev 39.84 259.88: Skate America 220.04 at GPF Overall results total: Total Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK Qualifying GPF river 241 28 19 28 34 32 37 42 21 Legacy and Hope 230 31 23 31 25 31 32 40 17 sallycinnamon 228 32 22 28 23 29 31 46 17 airi 226 23 24 30 32 33 25 42 17 Old Cat Lady 221 22 21 32 23 32 31 44 16 LadyLou 214 31 20 30 25 22 27 44 15 Paskud 209 23 23 23 29 33 25 34 19 mercedes 190 25 21 30 24 23 24 34 9 TeaFrida 190 18 25 22 23 21 24 44 13 Louitunes 186 22 23 17 20 23 30 36 15 ralucutzagy 151 22 27 26 32 31 13 Sukigirl 105 31 33 27 14 Sayu93 102 24 26 30 22 Figure_Frenzy 91 22 26 29 14 Overall Averages: Ave Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK GPF river 28.43 28 19 28 34 32 37 21 Legacy and Hope 27.14 31 23 31 25 31 32 17 airi 26.29 23 24 30 32 33 25 17 Sukigirl 26.25 31 33 27 14 sallycinnamon 26.00 32 22 28 23 29 31 17 Sayu93 25.50 24 26 30 22 Old Cat Lady 25.29 22 21 32 23 32 31 16 ralucutzagy 25.17 22 27 26 32 31 13 Paskud 25.00 23 23 23 29 33 25 19 LadyLou 24.29 31 20 30 25 22 27 15 Figure_Frenzy 22.75 22 26 29 14 mercedes 22.29 25 21 30 24 23 24 9 Louitunes 21.43 22 23 17 20 23 30 15 TeaFrida 20.86 18 25 22 23 21 24 13 Congrats to the medalists! Let me know if you have any suggestions for next time. Maybe we'll play again for 4cc, Europeans, and worlds. @river @Legacy and Hope @airi @Sukigirl @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @ralucutzagy @Paskud @LadyLou @Figure_Frenzy @mercedes @Louitunes @TeaFrida -
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Ando and Radford. At least we knew going in that this award is a meaningless farce so it's not quite so disappointing That's an awfully small jury. 6 people doesn't seem at all representative of the community but I suppose the smaller it is, the easier it is to manipulate the results- 6,825 replies
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Old Cat Lady replied to Yatagarasu's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
Busy procrastinating. Made a list of all the FS TES from the grand prix singles finalists. The talk is about Trusova competing against the men but it looks like this would be a really interesting competition all the way down the line if it was a JPN open style event with the men and women competing together. Hanyu 116.59 Skate Canada Chen 102.38 Skate America Chen 102.1 IdF Hanyu 101.57 NHK Trusova 100.2 Skate Canada Trusova 95.34 Cup of Russia Jin 93.8 Cup of China Scherbakova 92.2 Skate America Kostornaya 88.38 IdF Aymoz 86.22 IdF Samarin 85.4 IdF Samarin 84.86 Cup of Russia Scherbakova 84.71 Cup of China Aliev 82.88 Cup of Russia Kostornaya 82.61 NHK Kihira 79.43 NHK Kihira 77.5 Skate Canada Zagitova 77.31 NHK Jin 77.2 Skate America Aliev 73.98 Skate America Tennell 71.88 Skate America Aymoz 70.19 IdF Zagitova 68.85 IdF Tennell 68.79 Skate Canada- 6,825 replies
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That was the first time I felt really anxious about Yuzu for the final. Can't remember them doing a lot of straight up predictions, but the ones that stick out in my mind are about them mocking Aliona Savchenko for sticking it out another quad to try to get an Olympic gold in 2014, predicting Javier Fernandez for the world title in 2013, talking about how Nathan was going to flop after going to school, and "Hanyu is screwed" after seeing Nathan at JO this year. I really hope Yuzu wins GPF and worlds - mostly because it would make him so happy and partly because the internet will be insufferable if he doesn't
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2019/2020 Season prediction game
Old Cat Lady replied to Old Cat Lady's topic in Knickknacks: General Skating Chat
@Legacy and Hope @Paskud @mercedes @airi @Louitunes @ralucutzagy @Sayu93 @sallycinnamon Oops. just a reminder that there's still one more round. Sorry, the last post was just meant to be an update but you guys still have a chance to catch up if river manages to bomb https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf8P0GKYUfM2HwDehaDMHzepBdcrG3l69PcA9F5A99cVR7SxA/viewform?usp=pp_url -
any clue how these options for the awards were chosen? seems like there’s no rhyme or reason. i imagine they’ll give yuzu most valuable skater and whoever gets the most votes for newcomer and whoever has the most votes that didn’t already get something for the other categories. thinking of voting for “not yuzu” for 2 of the categories. part of me wonders if they’ll just eliminate any vote that votes the same skater for every eligible category. most of me feels ridiculous for participating in a popularity contest re: origin discussion. when i first saw it, i didn’t like it but i think that was largely because i loved the first costume and it just was nothing like i expected. but as i look at it more, i think i might like it more than the first one. accentuates all his lines better and the design just feels elevated. it’s like something you’d see on a paris runway
