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Oooh must be the ice dancer she has been seeing, Andrey Nevskiy. Congrats and best of luck Anna P! They were in Paris in March. This guy @yuzuangel

I am sure he will; he is way too methodical not to do it and even that whole thing aside, as direct competitors again, he'll keep a close eye. But tbh, I'd find Nobu a far more interesting case. At 31 he's someone to truly watch, considering what he's still capable of.

He didn't. They were nice enough jumps but sort of average. He had trouble, especially towards the (first) ending of his career with his quads. He was prone to URs; the rotation wasn't clearly finished in the air. His 3A is very nice but he telegraphed it. He did say that his jumps are almost better now than they were during the second half of his career but that isn't saying much (apart from sounding good). He has time but at 32 ... it's actually going to be interesting to observe. Can a person at that age reconstruct their jumps and to what extent. Absorbing new techniques is way easier said than done. I don't think triples are an issue at all (though we'll have to wait and see what they look like ie entry, exits etc due to new rules) but quads? It doesn't depend on just that, it depends on his initial ability too and I never thought of him as a jumper in the first place. I do think two different quads are a tall order. I know he wants them, never mind the whole catch up to the other two guys, but if he can get the T back and actually rotate it, then it'll already be a massive achievement.

Senseless fuss. So he'll be there a bit later, he didn't murder anyone? I suppose it's not how they want it to be and as usual, that's enough for some. Ah well, he'll live without those and probably more peacefully.

This is not true though, not considering what Boyang's primary issues are and Tracy has been at TCC, already working with the other two, and everyone else. She's the one that matters. I don't actually think it's anything particularly complicated; probably just extending his time in China a bit more before a major move half the globe away but at the same time, he will be almost two months short compared to the others. I mean he's in training, no doubt about that but there are particular things they want out of TCC that he wasn't getting there or he wouldn't have made the move. I am sure though they planned around it all now so it should work out anyway.

So Boyang is not only not at TCC but he won't be there before August. He is in Qingdao, and will be training there for a month. There's that summer camp going on there but the dates mean that after that he'll go to Japan for The Ice, second set of shows in Aichi are beginning of August (4th and 5th) and that leaves him with arriving around 10th at best from what I can come up with. Seems really late to start in a completely new training enviorment, new living one, where the language is an issue.

August 22nd! Still a bit to go but should be fun.

And welcome to our new home! Since the season has officially started, we have a new Junior thread, so do pop by! It should be a fun one, I can't wait to see what's in store.

Mmmm it's what I have in my head only more gory because he's moving so we won't go there. I say no for all the reasons mentioned so far; in short, his poor mouth.

TABLE OF POINTS TBA

TECHNICAL DETAILS Junior Skaters have specific requirements in their Short Programs. The Junior Short Program shall consist of the following required elements, which form three groups: Junior Men: Double or Triple Axel Double or Triple Flip Jump Combination: Double/Triple or Triple/Triple. May not repeat Axel jump or solo jump performed Flying Camel Spin: Flying position may be different than landing position. Min. 8 revs Sit Spin: With only 1 change of foot. No flying entry. Min. 6 revs. each foot Spin Combination: With only 1 change of foot. Min. 2 different basic positions. Must have all 3 basic positions to receive full value. No flying entry. Min. 6 revs. each foot. Min. 2 revs in position Leveled Step Sequence: Fully utilizing the ice surface Junior Ladies: Double Axel Double or Triple Flip Jump Combination: Double/Double, Double/Triple or Triple/Triple. May not repeat Double Axel or solo jump performed Flying Camel Spin: Flying position may be different than landing position. Min. 8 revs. Layback/ Sideways Leaning or Sit Spin without change of foot. No flying entry. Min. 8 revs. Spin Combination: With only 1 change of foot. Min. 2 different basic positions. Must have all 3 basic positions to receive full value. No flying entry. Min. 6 revs. each foot. Min. 2 revs in position Leveled Step Sequence: Fully utilizing the ice surface Junior Pairs: Any hand to hand lift take off (Group 4). Full extension of the lifting arm(s) is required Min 1 rev by man (no max) Twist Lift: Double or Triple. Take off must be flip or Lutz Throw Jump: Double or Triple Salchow Solo Jump: Double Flip or Double Axel Solo Spin Combination. Only one change of foot (made at the same time by both partners). Min. 5 revs. on each foot, and at least 2 different basic positions or their variations by each partner with at least 2 revs. each. Must have all 3 basic positions to receive full value. May be commenced with a jump. The rotation must be continuous, and no stop is permitted Death Spiral: Backward Outside. When death spiral position is attained, both partners must execute one revolution with man in full pivot position Lady’s head must reach the level of her skating knee Leveled Step Sequence: Must fully utilize the ice surface Ice Dance: Music: Tango or Tango plus one additional rhythm One (1) Short Lift. Short Lifts are max 7 secs One (1) Step Sequence in Hold or Not Touching or Combination of both (Style B) chosen from the following types of pattern: Midline, Diagonal, Circular One (1) Combination Set of Sequential Twizzles Pattern Dance Requirement: Two (2) Sections of Argentine Tango, skated one after the other.

Welcome to our thread for discussing Juniors and all the events of the 2018/19 season beginning with: Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating 2018/19 The 22st season of a series of junior international competitions organized by the International Skating Union! Date Event Location Other Notes August 22–25 2018 JGP Slovakia Bratislava, Slovakia + Pairs Aug. 29 – Sept. 1 2018 JGP Austria Linz, Austria + Pairs September 5–8 2018 JGP Lithuania Kaunas, Lithuania September 12–15 2018 JGP Canada Vancouver, Canada + Pairs September 26–29 2018 JGP Czech Republic Ostrava, Czech Republic + Pairs October 3–6 2018 JGP Slovenia Ljubljana, Slovenia October 10–13 2018 JGP Armenia Yerevan, Armenia December 6–9 2018–19 JGP Final Vancouver, Canada + Senior GPF Links in the Event column lead to the appropriate start of the competitions in the Space Battles: Event Discussions subforum for easier access Links in the Location column lead to the intro post in this thread Skaters who reach the age of 13 by July 1, 2018 but have not turned 19 (singles and females of the other two disciplines) or 21 (male pair skaters and ice dancers) are eligible to compete in the JGP. The number of entries allotted to each Federation is determined by their skaters' placements at the 2018 World Junior Championships and the Federations themselves choose their representatives. Skaters/Couples entered for an event of the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating may not participate in the same discipline of an event of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating (senior) in the same season. Points are awarded based on placement in an event. First place brings 15 points, second 13, third 11 points, fourth 9, fifth 7, sixth 5, fifth 4, etc. Top 6 ranking in all disciplines will qualify for the JGPF.

Yes, he did. ____________________ Up close, with his name!

Oh up close, I was wondering.

Another live-stream, the press conference! About to start.

According to Specs on GS, the PM said - "Everything looks good on you." Nobody is immune

From what I understood, it was made in Sendai.

I woke up in the middle of the night and checked my phone. Yuzuru in hakama. Yuzuru sitting like some ancient lord. What sleep.

Yuzuru lost the free. They were IIRC about tied on the TES and Dai had a good 5+ points on the PCS. But altogether, due to the big advantage from the SP, Yuzuru managed to win by maybe 5 points or so. I don't remember the exact numbers right now. In the SP Dai also had a slight PCS advantage but Yuzuru got him on the TES something awful IIRC. __ ETA ok to add as I dug it up: 2012 Protocols - SP, FS So yes, that TES difference was over 10 points in the SP. But Dai's PCS was 96 then, and even the following year when he was messy, it only went down slightly, it was 94.70, I was curious so I checked. His international was lower but inflation ... so yes, I don't expect anything under 90 for Dai.

@¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yes, reputation is a well known thing in figure skating and Kazuki doesn't have it. So what I'm hoping for is that we don't end up with that old issue but that it's a clear cut of he was better, he goes. I can't guess now what would be required to be honest, ask me after the GP season when we see both Kazuki and some of Takahashi. But I think if Dai gets a quad, just the one, it should be enough with the PCS I imagine he'll have. Major respect if he does, after such a huge break and at his age! @salty Sorry Also he looks nice enough already, with the few jumps (no need to watch through if you don't speak Japanese, jumps are at the start):

Are you sure? I'd suggest you take a look what was the final rank of Carolina Kostner with 3 landed triples for her FS at Europeans. @salty remember, they are giving Nathan 92 these days. They are going to be in a really big bind if they give Dai less than 90. He is too good, when you compare. If he has a clean triples program, that should happen, because these days we have Jason Brown who scores that much with only triples.

@xeyra Yes, he does need it but I don't think it's an issue. One Senior B and voila plus it's good experience for him in any case, considering the big break. Yes, well. This is why the GPs are going to be so important. If I remember well, Kazuki's PCS at Worlds was just below 80 which is essentially a huge issue. He was a new name but it won't rise even if he improves and with this 5th place; he needs more. So these two GPs are going to be really important for him to get a few more points there before he's facing Japanese judges. I think Dai won't go below Chiddy's PCS no matter what he does, so that's a pretty big difference even if Kazuki gets the second quad by then. I don't know though if JSF will bother with giving him a push, especially now. As we've seen with the ladies, if they don't want to, they won't. Dai is saying he wants two kinds of quads btw. But with the new SOV, just the one quad might be enough to get that third spot, depending on the judging.

Who is denying it? Kazuki took part in the Nationals such as they were, earned a spot and ended up fifth at the World Championships 2018. That wasn't a small pond. Actually, I wouldn't say no worries at all. It all depends on the judges after all. We'll see how they skate and how they score them, all of them. Also I am not sure what - doing better than he did in Milan- means exactly? How do you know that Takahashi will perform better than Kazuki did in Milan? BTW technically we don't know how anybody measures against Takahashi or rather how he measures against the current skaters. He seems to hope to catch up to Yuzuru and Shoma after all, so who knows right? Ah see, I don't think Takahashi has only disadvantages. There are plenty of advantages in being Daisuke Takahashi backed by Kansai. He has a major reputation from before, backing and the whole retire in front of his own audience sentiment. Preferably at Worlds. And that has its own part to play while Kazuki can very easily get the whole, he has time, spiel. It's a story old as time. Anyway, as long as it is the skating itself, as it truly was, that decides who goes and who stays, I'm sure it'll be fine.

Same! I love that program, I actually go back to it quite often. It's why I am really enthusiastic about him stabilizing the 4T and the new program with Misha, and well he's enthusiastic too! He's got two GPs, so the only potential issue might be PCS if JSF ends up sitting on their hands, which, possible. Fingers crossed in any case, I really like him and having a good GP season would be a big confidence boost for him.

Kazuki Tomono, the main candidate for #3, had actually earned his place for Worlds last (this past 2017/18) season, and he participated in Milan. If he hadn't skated as he did Japan wouldn't have three spots this season; he finished fifth overall actually. So I think he's proven quite a bit so far. Anyway, nobody wants anything for Kazuki without him earning his spot yet again but at the same time, Dai needs to do so as well, regardless of his own considerable reputation. If he is better than Kazuki, or whoever, major props to him. At the same time, if Kazuki is better, then that should be that too even if the one he boots is Daisuke Takahashi himself. And that, we'll have to wait and see.