KatjaThera Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, WinForPooh said: If I can't unsee it, I see no reason why anybody else should also not see it. Link to comment
ymy Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, KatjaThera said: Clean is a great word for it. The colors seem cleaner, too, and I love their intensity. I think it looks thinner than the old Seimei outfit, which I thought was part of the problem with the show!Seimei one? But it looks great, so I hope he sticks to it (maybe after the flimsy-looking H&L one, it's perfectly fine now lol) And the embroidery is beautiful, too. I admit, I would have liked a more dramatic change - like going from white to something else - but in a way the more subtle change fits with the theme better. (And I admit I didn't notice gloves missing at ACI, but then again, I was too nervous ^_^; But yes, the contrast between the gloves and the rest of the top is one of the highlights.) I actually love H&L's costume because it's body hugging and shows how muscular he has become. The new seimei outfit I love too, but I wish it will show off his new physique.. oh well, it's just me hehehe Link to comment
kaeryth Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, KatjaThera said: They could have ironed the sheet behind him a little bit better - he could have shown them how I have to say though, I hate the flat, every single hair perfectly in place hairdos they give him for these things... He looks so... weird and old ^_^; The costume is beautiful, though! (And I guess this confirms there won't be any updates/upgrades to it, too) Agree! it looks so weird and for some reason.. a bit fake as well. (they're probably filming for the GP series fluff) Link to comment
xeyra Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, kaeryth said: Agree! it looks so weird and for some reason.. a bit fake as well. (they're probably filming for the GP series fluff) The blue curtain is just there for the CGI work, yeah. It's irrelevant whether it's ironed. Edit: Also lol that Asahi's GP series theme music is being skated by two Japanese skaters this season. Link to comment
KatjaThera Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, ymy said: I actually love H&L's costume because it's body hugging and shows how muscular he has become. The new seimei outfit I love too, but I wish it will show off his new physique.. oh well, it's just me hehehe Oh, I love H&L costume, too! I think it was part of what made me instantly support him lol (Also, green, and blue-green/emerald green/whatever you want to call it is one of my favorite colors, so that gradient was 150% up my alley). I personally don't see if as showing how muscular he's become, but rather it shows off that body shape, that I love. Slim, yet not skinny, not really feminine, but not manly either... I love that body shape. And yes, I miss that in Seimei, as well, but the Seimei kind of outfit is more imposing in some ways, so I end up liking it in a different way (the purple and green help a lot, though, purple being another favorite color lol) 2 minutes ago, xeyra said: The blue curtain is just there for the CGI work, yeah. It's irrelevant whether it's ironed. Edit: Also lol that Asahi's GP series theme music is being skated by two Japanese skaters this season. I know, re: curtain, it just reminded me of Yuzu's 'ironing experience' so I couldn't help trying to make a joke Link to comment
xeyra Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, KatjaThera said: I know, re: curtain, it just reminded me of Yuzu's 'ironing experience' so I couldn't help trying to make a joke I wonder if anyone joked with him about it during filming. Link to comment
CupidsBow Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 39 minutes ago, KatjaThera said: They could have ironed the sheet behind him a little bit better - he could have shown them how I have to say though, I hate the flat, every single hair perfectly in place hairdos they give him for these things... He looks so... weird and old ^_^; The costume is beautiful, though! (And I guess this confirms there won't be any updates/upgrades to it, too) ngggh i'm not gonna lose hope just yet it's nice but imo its too much like seimei 1.0 but i like seimei 1 more -_- this one looks a bit too plain and still looks unfinished to me -_- i guess we'll see. it's nice, it's pretty much its a little disappointing.... Link to comment
Sombreuil Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I like the higher collar and the sharper green and the sort of braid detail on the collar and shoulder. Link to comment
KatjaThera Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, CupidsBow said: ngggh i'm not gonna lose hope just yet it's nice but imo its too much like seimei 1.0 but i like seimei 1 more -_- this one looks a bit too plain and still looks unfinished to me -_- i guess we'll see. it's nice, it's pretty much its a little disappointing.... I guess there is a chance he'll keep white Seimei throughout the GP season, and then unleash black Seimei at the Olympics... that'd be ultimate drama lol (But I don't really think he will... It's like I half expected him to go crazy YOLO-ing at Worlds in Helsinki, after 4CC and that SP, but instead he went for the planned layout, but did it perfectly, so it was awesome anyway. It's that kind of drama I imagine in my head, only he has a different way of thinking lol So he'll probably still use white Seimei, but be breathtaking in it...) Personally, I like the cleaner version. It's more Japanese subtlety than the other one. But it's a matter of tastes. Link to comment
CupidsBow Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, KatjaThera said: I guess there is a chance he'll keep white Seimei throughout the GP season, and then unleash black Seimei at the Olympics... that'd be ultimate drama lol (But I don't really think he will... It's like I half expected him to go crazy YOLO-ing at Worlds in Helsinki, after 4CC and that SP, but instead he went for the planned layout, but did it perfectly, so it was awesome anyway. It's that kind of drama I imagine in my head, only he has a different way of thinking lol So he'll probably still use white Seimei, but be breathtaking in it...) Personally, I like the cleaner version. It's more Japanese subtlety than the other one. But it's a matter of tastes. I think part of what throws me is the colours? Seimei 1 was more warm toned throughout - the white was more a cream, the gold belt was darker, the purple accents was warmer and richer. I think the crisp white, the more neutral and brighter purple accent and the brighter green accent is just a whole load of 'i don't like' in my head. I think I was geared up for different colour accents. A purer white would look better with cool-toned colour accents like turquoise and teal (imo?) though I think red accents would also go nicely with a crisp white esp if the belt is still gold...Seimei 1 had a fairly nice colour relationship (neutral-to-warm base purple with a complimentary green and the cream and gold) and this is stark white (which can read cold) a purple (which is kinda warm) and a harsh green (cold) hjghfhfyjguhhjhfgd If it doesn't change I'll get over it. I don;t hate it I just don;t find it as pleasing as 1 and I think it's a shame if he doesnt have the best costume for the program at olympics, or a costume on par. the thin-ness and the brighter colours looks cheap to me T-T i'm sorry. IT'S PRETTY my brain is just like 'oh' at it though. I guess it depends on when the green screen fluff was filmed and if he would even debut a new outfit for a promotional fluff filming or save it for a competition. I seem to have NHK as the deadline for everything. If nothing is changed by NHK then its set in stone. Link to comment
kaeryth Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (sort of...) Roman Sadovsky playing Parisienne Walkways (his instagram tags - #garymoore. Throwback to #yuzuruhanyu 's old short) Link to comment
xeyra Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, CupidsBow said: ngggh i'm not gonna lose hope just yet it's nice but imo its too much like seimei 1.0 but i like seimei 1 more -_- this one looks a bit too plain and still looks unfinished to me -_- i guess we'll see. it's nice, it's pretty much its a little disappointing.... I think it's best to just prepare yourself for disappointment all season. I doubt he's going to do any drastic changes to the Seimei look when it's so meshed in the movie's visuals. If he was going to change anything more drastically, he would have done it already, I think. So just feel free to dislike it. I for one actually prefer the new version and its subtle details, so people's tastes just differ. Edit: I am however prepared to eat my words if he does change his outfit through the season but if he does, here's hoping for some red. Link to comment
KatjaThera Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, CupidsBow said: I think part of what throws me is the colours? Seimei 1 was more warm toned throughout - the white was more a cream, the gold belt was darker, the purple accents was warmer and richer. I think the crisp white, the more neutral and brighter purple accent and the brighter green accent is just a whole load of 'i don't like' in my head. I think I was geared up for different colour accents. A purer white would look better with cool-toned colour accents like turquoise and teal (imo?) though I think red accents would also go nicely with a crisp white esp if the belt is still gold...Seimei 1 had a fairly nice colour relationship (neutral-to-warm base purple with a complimentary green and the cream and gold) and this is stark white (which can read cold) a purple (which is kinda warm) and a harsh green (cold) hjghfhfyjguhhjhfgd If it doesn't change I'll get over it. I don;t hate it I just don;t find it as pleasing as 1 and I think it's a shame if he doesnt have the best costume for the program at olympics, or a costume on par. the thin-ness and the brighter colours looks cheap to me T-T i'm sorry. IT'S PRETTY my brain is just like 'oh' at it though. I guess it depends on when the green screen fluff was filmed and if he would even debut a new outfit for a promotional fluff filming or save it for a competition. I seem to have NHK as the deadline for everything. If nothing is changed by NHK then its set in stone. I think it's ok to have different tastes. The world would be really boring otherwise. Also, in a way, the most important thing is for him to like it and feel comfortable in it, even if everyone else hates it. That said, I actually like these colors more. I guess it's more vibrant in a way, while also being more subtle/simple in others. I love the shades of purple and green, while the ones in the old Seimei I found weird and kind of out of place. (The change in perception could also simply be because I got use to the color combination). So I guess our tastes are at opposite corners lol I admit, I also would like a more dramatic change - though simply replacing the purple and green with red or so wouldn't be much better to me. A dramatic change would be to replace the white with something else and then the other colors to fit. (Black, purple and gold would also kill me, to be honest...) But I think he is committed to white Seimei, so... unlikely. BUT... we still have to see Chopin! (here's to hoping for more than another shade of blue in the same type of gradient >.>) Link to comment
CupidsBow Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Just now, xeyra said: I think it's best to just prepare yourself for disappointment all season. I doubt he's going to do any drastic changes to the Seimei look when it's so meshed in the movie's visuals. If he was going to change anything more, he would have done it already, I think. So just feel free to dislike it. I for one actually prefer the new version and its subtle details, so people's tastes just differ. Oh I don't really expect any massive changes...i'm just a bit...meh Link to comment
WinForPooh Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I don't expect drastic change to Seimei, either. It's wedded to the music and the choreo and the performance and the entire concept, for better or for worse. In health and in even better health. He put a hell of a lot of thought into it when he did it the first time around, and the improved version is only going to be the same but better. He's not going to junk any of the things he got right (whether or not we agree) earlier. Even the cosmetic changes - only those of us who've watched it a million times will notice most of them. I think he doesn't WANT change in the appearance of it. He wants an upgrade that will remind judges of how good it was, and how he's made it even better - not changed it entirely. (pop concert not the way to go, Yuzu, just saying...) With Chopin, though, I have hopes. It might be similar, but that is not music and a concept that is original to him. He can make it different and still make sure the judges are reminded that it's one of the best SPs ever. It can be separated into elements - costume, layout, choreo, music - and put back together, and it will still be different, but his because he does it better than anybody else. So perhaps nothing drastic, because he will want that recall of all he did with it before, but maybe something a bit different. Link to comment
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