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6 minutes ago, Terrapin said:
I feel exactly the same as you, and I've never watched Boston FS. I'm not sure I will ever... I felt devastated enough just to know what happened, so watching it would be too much, even though it's been a year and he won his title back.
The Russian commentator was so concerned about Yuzuru and was so right, the "God mentality" is a huge burden. After NHK and GPF 2015, the expectation became huge and crazy. I am glad he has to endure it earlier than Olympic season. It's a good lesson to learn and now he is more experienced than that.
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Go for the gold Yuzuru! You will make it!
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Thank you Fay for the translation.
QuoteBecause one of the most convincing means of expressing choreographic ideas in any skater's programs are the most difficult jumps. Even the spectators sitting in the stands distinguish very well the number of revolutions performed in the air and they reward the performers with applause accordingly.
No, Mishin. No. I respect him but most of the time audience can not tell which jump is which. And they definitely won't be thrilled with an ugly quad with bad landing. 4 rotation or not.
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30 minutes ago, Xen said:
Going back to the topic of body types. There's no real genetic advantage, because after years of skating and off-ice conditioning, it's scary how similar the body lines are amongst skaters of different body types. What I mean is that you are going to have to bulk up in certain areas (thighs, butts, calves etc) regardless of your ethnicity. Maybe some genes that influence what body type you end up with (and here I'm thinking more along endomorph, meso, ectomorph etc) can make it easier or harder to bulk up those muscles, and make it easier or harder to learn certain things. But ultimately, bodies become more similar than different after 10+ years of training.
Also, when did soft knees become ethnicity based? Thought it was just an issue of technique.
Soft knee definitely has more to do with basic training. Very tall and big men can have soft knee too.
About the body, we should take note that, it's not the Asian being better at jumps. It's more likely that smaller bodies rotate faster, they need less power to go up on the air. This is pretty much relevant in ladies when small girls jump and rotate faster than mature ladies with taller and bigger frames.
Asian men do tend to be slender than White men. For example Nathan and Boayng do have very thin bodies. But will they stay like that for their whole life? Men can still grow at the age of 25.
Not to mention, some white men can be very thin (see Adian Pitkeev, Sasha Abt or Plushenko at his prime) and some Asian men can be sturdy (Patrick for example).
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3 hours ago, Floria said:
I remember recent interviews with Trankov and Kolyada and both mentioned hard work as the key to success for Asian skaters. And also the technique, Japanese skaters seems to be lighter on the ice and have better SS compared to others, but it is probably just my impression.
Jeremy Abbot is 6 feet and he has always had super skating skills (his coach is the skating queen Yuka Sato by the way). He has been underrated because of his SUPER inconsistency. But at his best, I think his SS is NO weaker than Patrick Chan (who also has kinda thick body type).
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This is just amazing!! Thank you so much!
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Isn't it ironic that Yamaguchi calls Yuzuru as consistent while the skating world call him inconsistent?
You know, aside from NHK 2014 (we knew why he did badly), ever since Sochi, Yuzuru never placed lower than 2nd. He either win silver or gold for 3 straight years. How is that inconsistent?
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I just watched this video to understand about Asthma. I wonder what kind of asthma Yuzuru has. But it is great that he has become quite better at dealing with it.
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14 minutes ago, Anony said:
Back then I've only casually followed FS for about 3 years and while I can identify jumps, I didn't really understand SS or TR all that well so admittedly Yuzuru's SS never stood out to me that's not saying much tho, not even Patrick's stood out to me at the time Now that I'm watching his older programs again, his edges are good they're nothing compared to what they are now tho, so is his multi directional skating, he covers a lot of ice and like you said, he's ridiculously fast. I think the rumour that Yuzuru has bad SS is, to begin with completely false, but also probably derived from his stamina. He slows down near the end of the program, he's still fast, but not as fast as he was in the start and that's what people notice, not his actual speed. His posture nearing the end is also subpar It's not the worst tho, let's be honest for a second which has nothing to do with SS but I realise a lot of casual viewers tend to look at the upperbody instead of... well the skating. He still gets a lot of mileage out off his crossovers and honestly he never really "stalk" his jumps, or at least when he does, he's really coy about it.
Also his twizzles, his twizzles are always amazing
The issue with Yuzuru in the old days was that he kinda "wasted his energy" or more like he didn't know how to phase his power and speed. It's understandable though, he had low stamina, often grasped badly in the second half of the program. But if we all watch them in practice, he had shown quite deep edge, transitions and speed. He is wiser now and knows better to phrase his movements and distribute the energy even in him programs.
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8 minutes ago, Anony said:
His stsq is great too. Actually now that I'm rewatching this, I realise even back then his SS isn't as bad actually it's good as a lot of people seem to think.
Even that time, Max Ambesi even commented that Yuzuru's skating skills at the age of 17 were already better than all Japanese men. I agree with him. Watching Yuzuru skate, especially in practice, I can see how deep his edges were by that time. He was blazing fast too. In 2012, there was a joke that Yuzuru at the end of the program was faster than Javi at the beginning of his program. The biggest issue at that time was that Yuzuru had so weak stamina. I am glad he has improved his strength vastly.
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2 hours ago, xeyra said:
I'm pretty sure Yuzu knew he lipped badly back then and expected the edge calls. He still brought the 3F to competition, probably because of its BV. I am not quite sure (I need to check rules) if nowadays edge calls also lower BV or if they're just supposed to be an automatic -3 GOE, but I'm sure the penalties for edge calls increased over time and Yuzu knew he had to fix it.
Yuzuru already started fixing his Flip by the peculiar entry he had since he was with coach Abe. I remember the talk that they already tried to fix it by that time. And he actually had flat edge now and then even during the time with Miss Abe. But certainly he need time for it. It took several seasons for him to fix his Flip completely.
The edge call before Vancouver was actually much harsher than today. I remember when Mao and other ladies persistently got edge calls and UR calls, thus judges never give Mao any easy pass on her jumps.
But Mao is a lady so it's much harder for her to fix her edge and UR issue.
In the other hand, Yuzuru only had issue with the Flip. Yuzuru pulls himself up onto the air very fast, that's why he doesn't Lip anymore cause he leaves the ice before the Flip edge rock to the outside. Unlike some skaters (especially ladies), they pull themselves up onto the air quite late and slower, so their edge rock to the wrong side.
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1 hour ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:
I actually feel kinda sorry for those who don't get treated as strictly as Hanyu was, still is. All these has only empowered Hanyu, not hold him back. Getting lenient treatment, even if you have the will to improve yourself, is still something that will ultimately stunt your growth and prevent you from reaching your true potential. And being able to get close to that is the only surefire way you can stay on top without relying on the whims of others to be there. These have all been said before. But I find it very true and so find no harm in reiterating. ^_^;
Then again, it isn't everyday that someone like Hanyu--whose unique world view enables him to see all these as empowerment, maybe even as his privilege, rather than setbacks--comes along, so maybe it is what it is and everything is the way it should be.
2Yeah... being treated strictly might be what Yuzuru prefers. He is not the type who likes being taken lenient. It is just his personality.
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It seems team Brian has just updated their twitter, I wonder if there is some news: https://twitter.com/TeamBrian2018
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Autumn Classic in Canada on 20 September (4 weeks) // Cup of Russia in Russia on 20 October (4 weeks) // NHK Trophy in Japan on 10 November (4 weeks) // GPF in Japan on 7-10 December (2 weeks) // Japan National 20-24 December (7 weeks) // Olympic in Korea 14-20 February
Not a bad schedule.
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1 minute ago, katonice said:
They should hire many guards to protect that... thing from me! I might go there and burn it!!
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Does anyone know the video where this gif was from
thank you very much.
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Sorry for being late but reading this make me laugh kinda a lot:
QuoteY: I wonder… Mmm, it’s really a matter of preference, so to speak. It’s a contradiction, but if you do your jumps cleanly, in the end people will inevitably think “the transitions were also good.”
Technically he understands that: "As long as you skate cleanly, even if you have no transitions, people still think that you have a lot of transitions."
What's the point of adding so many difficult transitions into his programs then? Seriously... why Yuzuru doesn't play it the easier way. But guess what, if Yuzuru did 40 crossovers in a long program, he would never get the same PCS as someone, a skater who actually has almost 40 crossovers in his long program. The judging makes me sick.
Now you understand why ex top skaters never want to become a judge or a specialist, they know skating and they can not stand the stupidity, the bias and the lies in the judging. Ask Trankov. He even said it out loud.
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1 hour ago, fluffypooh said:
U would think that Patrick practices it so much that he would know how big his jumps are...
his relationship with board is actually talked about in some Japanese show. It is cuz he has really deep edges so the speed is too fast n he ended up traveling farther than he anticipated
Patrick is a nervous skater... he is the master of blade but he is still nervous. And when he is nervous it's harder to control his jumps and edge.
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I have just realized... it's just 8 months before the Olympic... no wonder he chose Chopin.
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Is there any new article on Sportiva? Is there any news about Yuzuru in that? Thanks.
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Oda has a lot to say sorry for the fans... he is being so close to Yuzuru that makes people get jealous.
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1 minute ago, ralucutzagy said:
FaoI is over, ninja mode is on
, does anybody know something ... what is Yuzu gonna do now? Staying in Japan for a while? Going back to Toronto to train? 
Go back to Toronto to train. He still has a long way to go with his programs.
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