fireovertheice

So...what happened to this project/idea?

1 hour ago, getsurenka said:

There is one (of the many) part of the CCTV Chinese commentary during FS that I really like. 

 

A rough translation:

Fate whispers to the warrior, "You can never defeat/withstand the storm".

The warrior responds softly, "I am the storm."

 

 

Very apt description of Hanyu Yuzuru, 2014 & 2018 Olympic Champion.

And this fits perfectly with the last MAD I posted in the thread of fan made videos just before his Oly comps : "Eye of the storm" by smal58

I have just caught up looking at all the pics, gifs and videos uploaded and the interviews already translated: I have no words to describe what Yuzuru, his team and his family (and mostly mama Hanyu) have done.

Yuzuru is a true champion and a great person: luckily for him, he is supported by true champions, in sport and in life. So I am totally with Ambesi in this: Yuzu is a living legend and we are really blessed to have him now (to me he was a true legend already before and also without second gold Oly but, you know, in some other parts of the world it seems so hard to recognize it).

I would also like to thank all the satellites of this Planet for all the infos, videos ( @Raomina you are my savior!), translations and emotions shared in the last days: Yuzuru truly deserves a so passionate and generous fandom

Waiting for Friday..."Eye of the Storm" by smal58:

5 minutes ago, Eclair said:

really? I heard the announcer introducing his name at the beginning of the men's SP and he was not one of the 9 judges, so I thought that he was part of the tech panel. If you're right, I'm so glad he isn't because like I said, I was really taken aback by the odds of this happening...

Yes, I heard also, but I think that was among the names of ISU officials indeed.

These are the panel of judges and TC panel in ISU pages:

men http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/owg2018/SEG009OF.HTM  ; http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/owg2018/SEG010OF.HTM  and ladies http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/owg2018/SEG011OF.HTM ; http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/owg2018/SEG012OF.HTM

So: fingers crossed for all the upcoming events !

11 hours ago, Eclair said:

that's because Lakernik is in the tech panel - of course he would call Canadian's UR's. And he also made sure that Rizzo wouldn't place above Kolyada as well.

Sorry but where did you find this?

The tech panel for men events (TE and single) as far as i know is this: RHEE Chihee (referee), LOCATELLI Raffaella, KOSTIN Konstantin, OLAVARRIETA Ricardo. These are also the persons mentioned some time ago from Ambesi.

Tech panel for ladies (TE and singles) was this: PFISTER Beatrice (referee), LYNCH Susan, CHUNG Jae-Eun, MARTYNOV Evgeny.

I think that Lakernik was present at these events just as ISU official (vice-president for figure skating).

Hi all!

I post also here another video from the Figure Skating Comparison Team focused on the steps/movements before the solo jumps in top 7 men's SP (including later comps and Oly TE).

Hi all!

Here you are another video from the Figure Skating Comparison Team: this time the focus is on the steps/movements before the solo jumps in top 7 men's SP (including later comps and also observations on Oly TE).

Observe and comment, as you wish. And also, please, share if you can/ want ( )

I don't know if this is the right place to post it. However, after 4 years Pandalion (band from Sendai) did a project again for Yuzu:  "Miracle that you draw"

2 hours ago, Murieleirum said:

 

Well, he might be the only male skater to land 5 quads...or even 4 quads, really. Someone like @xeyra has counted all the landed quads vs. planned quads for the season, I think (or I hallucinated it ). There was a margin. 

I dont't know if you meant these data (last and this season until GPF, links below, ) or others:

https://planethanyu.com/topic/486-2017-gpf-men-sp-fs/?do=findComment&comment=133082

https://planethanyu.com/topic/486-2017-gpf-men-sp-fs/?do=findComment&comment=133090

Last fan videos ... waiting for him and whishing good luck for Pyeongchang:

- YUZU WARRIOR がんばって！ by Aika 愛花

- Dream - To Yuzuru Hanyu, by noi 10H2O

Hi all!

Here you are a new video showing the data of Yulia about 1-foot skating and TR in the top 7 men SP (first part of the season), following the translation of  kolmogorov_is_sad and with the final observations of the "Figure skating comparison team".

Hope you like it and help to spread it . Every comment and further observations on the data are also welcome. 

Just for fun I started new countings, this time related to ice coverage and speed of the top men in their FS/LP. 

As trial I counted for now just the ice coverage and the speed of the transitions made in diagonal or in serpetine before the jumps in Yuzu's and Nathan's programs at CoR (At SA, GPF and Nats Nathan seemed slower to me). If I am right these are the first results.

Y. Hanyu --> TR ice coverage around 346 m; speed 5.18 m/s = 18.64 Km/h

N. Chen --> TR ice coverage around 324 m; speed 4.68 m/s = 16.84 Km/h

Nice, knowing also the difference in difficulty in their tranistions...Now I am curious to check also the others. Do you have any data about this?

Some new MADs:

- Champion, by Amber Carmona:

- Clock strikes ／ Yuzuru Hanyu(羽生 結弦) × ONE OK ROCK(ワンオクロック), by kana kolo (I have to say that I like very much every combination of Yuzu with OOR music...):

- and last Charger from the sky, by aeterniti (epic music also always is perfect to tell what Yuzu achieved and will try to achieve in the next month):

We have to remember also that this year some rules changed also for StSq. I can remember at least this:

"4) Two different combinations of 3 difficult turns on different feet executed with a clear rhythm within the sequence. Only the first combination attempted on each foot can be counted."

Shoma in the FS/LP has the StSq less rich in difficult turns and steps than the others top men, just the amount necessary for StSq Lv4 (that is 11): so if he miss or if he does one of them not so well - like in the example of realmonster for Yuzuru - is easy to get a Lv3 (for the FS he had Lv3 through all the GP serie and Lv4 at WTT, Lombardia and Nats).

It's up again on TSN5

Ted is really a treasure; and also very able to find something nice to say about every skater / skate, but not in a flattery and meaningless way

How was Anna? I hope she did well!

And thank you for the YT link

Pity that 3Lz!

I am looking here and the stream seems fine: x

Did you see this piece of CBC? It's focused mostly at the beginning on Chen called as the skater who made history with his 5 quads FS and a "game changer" for the next Oly (and this is also the title, that is sort of super-hyping him...). But in the lenght of the video they speak about other skaters and Yuzu too: he is showed in association with Chen as the guys with multiple quads vs. skaters like Brown and Chan, who have no quad o a reduced number of them.

Underline is the usual them of quads and technique vs. "artistry and style" (this is literal from the video) IMO. Your thoughts about this and the reasons by CBC publishing  a video like that 4 days ago?

9 hours ago, LadyLou said:

 

 

 

And Boyang deserves more appreciation from fs commentators.

At least they - and sometimes the judges - could recognize that he tries to do it in the right way, i.e. not cheating or too much underotating jumps, not to too much avoiding difficult transitions and masking the fact with the upper body movements or just only long SE and so forth, all tendencies that we can see in the younger guns who do difficult /with more than two quads layout IMO. Still, if you compare him with the most part of the others top men, surely he has to work more on the knees and edges, posture and arms movements.

Then other two cents about some of the other skaters based on the last comps and news.

I finally watched also Chen FS at Nat: what a disappointment! Seeing the scores and knowing it was a cleanish skate, I expected something more: no, to be honest, much more. But it's almost unwachtable to me: very slow, and heavy on the most part of the jumps, losing every connection with the music accents (the part between the first set of spins and the beginning of the StSq, and also the end of the StSq are unbereable to me, maybe because I know very well the timing and the music accents of the program for my counts ....) and also with lesser kind of interpretation than usual. I hope that they will not make him win Oly with a perfomance like that, please  .

Patrick Chan is about to compete at Nats and declared the he wil mantain only a quad for SP and two quads for LP, all of them 4Ts. He seems now aiming more to the team gold than to the individual one. https://bevsmithwrites.wordpress.com/2018/01/06/patrick-chan-pulling-himself-to-the-finish/

What do you think about it?

5 hours ago, WinForPooh said:

*waits for complaints that this is also an Evil Fanyu^TM conspiracy.

4 hours ago, Xen said:

Politely remind them that Patrick has really good results from this video. And that if anything, this video indicates Jason Brown has been lowballed significantly.

Usually, except for very few special cases, that's enough to stop the whiny ones in their tracks.

I expect some complaints as Fanyu's product, also if the data are shown in the most neutral way possible. But the will complain also more saying that one cannot count only quantity but the quality of these turns, steps and movements has to be taken well in account, i.e. the so called "quality crossovers"  or edges and quality of movements in the one-foot skating, and so forth.

In any case, I hope that it will be useful to other people who want to take in consideration these data to reflect a bit about what these skaters actually do on the ice and that should / could be reflected at least in part in the PCs scores.

But I don't want to go too much OT here, at least we want concentrate on Yuzuru's data only: so if we want to discuss further, I saw the video linked also in the general skating chat

2 hours ago, ralucutzagy said:

 

That's not new here the Planet, but thanks to this video (due the hard work of others ) we have the possibilty to spread these data. Thank you for sharing it.

We all know that PCs are a joke (and PCs at Nats are really a farce, after what we have seen in USA Champs, mostly in women and men single): still, to point to the part of them that coud be more objective and / or countable, and to observe what skaters actually do with their feet, could be useful for fans and also for the judges (I hope).

1 minute ago, Yatagarasu said:

 

Ahah, no, no. That was the narrative back then when Lysacek was going for the gold. Plushenko has no transitions! It went so far that Inman, who is actually a judge here, during these Nationals, emailed other judges about transition scores. It was a bit of a scandal. I was reminded because of the 'Lysacek strategy in costumes' being extended to Nathan and it amuses me to expand that further because the rest would never work on Yuzuru. He is simply too good, and in general, that makes him an awful target for those kind of narratives.

Ah ok: thank you for the explanation. It seemed very strange to me, but I have read the most incredible things these last days also referred to Yuzu so...