General Yuzuru Chat

[sweetwater]

Update on his injury:
According to Ms. Kabayashi of JFS, the team doctor palpated him and diagnosed that he has "anterior tibiofibular ligament injury", "triangular ligament injury" and is suspected to have damaged peroneal muscle and tendon. Kobayashi said that his ankle is swollen a bit now. The injury is now being treated with icing and compression. He is also trying to lie down putting his foot up. He'll go back to Toronto or Japan to receive a full treatment.

 

Source:

https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2018111800429&g=spo

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2018/11/18/kiji/20181118s00079000306000c.html

 

Sorry if this is not so comprehensible. I'm not a medical specialist so I am not sure if this is a correct explanation in English.

 

ETA: revised the translation checking another source

ETA2: revised the translation of 腓骨筋腱 checking an anatomical chart (19/11/2018)

[alizabeth]

Googled on how long it takes for the peroneal muscle and tendon to heal: Patients usually recover fully but this can take considerable time. You must be patient and allow the tendon to heal before going back to activity. If you need surgery, your recovery time may be substantial. You may be instructed not to put your foot down with weight for about six weeks.

 

I really hope he withdraws from the GPF. 3 weeks is just not enough time.

[cirelle]

  On 11/18/2018 at 12:15 PM, sweetwater said:

Update on his injury:
According to Ms. Kabayashi of JFS, the doctor palpated him and diagnosed that he has "anterior tibiofibular ligament injury", "triangular ligament injury" and is suspected to have damaged peroneal muscle and tendon. Kobayashi said that his ankle is swollen a bit now. The injury is now being treated with icing and compression. He'll go back to Toronto or Japan to receive a full treatment.

 

Source:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20181118-00000070-jij-spo

 

Sorry if this is not so comprehensible. I'm not a medical specialist so I am not sure if this is a correct explanation in English.

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Thank you so much! The other translation from twitter went with ”inferior tibial fatigue injury” but the other two seem the same. I know it’s always tricky translating medical jargon so thank you even more!

[fireovertheice]

I think he will WD GPF, but for a lot of reasons - personal and not - it's difficult to think calmly and to say it now. Don't know about Nats: it depends on diagnosis after a proper (not just palpation) check in Toronto.

I hope he can rest and take time to return at his best for 4CC and  Worlds.

[sweetwater]

  On 11/18/2018 at 12:27 PM, cirelle said:

 

Thank you so much! The other translation from twitter went with ”inferior tibial fatigue injury” but the other two seem the same. I know it’s always tricky translating medical jargon so thank you even more!

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I never thought that I would again tackle on medical terms this year 
Hope he'll be able to focus on healing and get better soon. 

[cirelle]

  On 11/18/2018 at 12:34 PM, sweetwater said:

I never thought that I would again tackle on medical terms this year 
Hope he'll be able to focus on healing and get better soon. 

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Yeah, no one wanted to be here again. 

 

 

So basically we know nothing.

 

(Yes I’m apparently handling things by trying to research the heck out of them. I’m not even surprised.)

[sophiang]

 

Please click this gif!

I become so relieved when see his sunshine smile! 

Every Fanyus, stay positive and happy as Yuzu! 

[SuzyQ]

I thought since GPF is too close in time, he has already given it up, and hopefully the Nationals will be his next to compete.  But according to this article, he seems not to have given up GPF yet.

 

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20181118-00000043-asahi-spo

 

Yuzuru:  I will undergo the treatment for the GPF with my full effort.

[MrPudding]

 

[MrPudding]

hanyuconomy

[goldenhanyu]

  On 11/18/2018 at 12:50 PM, MrPudding said:

 

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[sophiang]

 

The article point out the diagnosis: Hanyu was diagnosed with apparent damage to two different ligaments, a tendon and his fibula, and the ankle swelled up overnight.  

[Tee]

  On 11/18/2018 at 11:31 AM, kaeryth said:

 

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  On 11/18/2018 at 12:15 PM, sweetwater said:

Update on his injury:
According to Ms. Kabayashi of JFS, the team doctor palpated him and diagnosed that he has "anterior tibiofibular ligament injury", "triangular ligament injury" and is suspected to have damaged peroneal muscle and tendon. Kobayashi said that his ankle is swollen a bit now. The injury is now being treated with icing and compression. He is also trying to lie down putting his foot up. He'll go back to Toronto or Japan to receive a full treatment.

 

Source:

https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2018111800429&g=spo

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2018/11/18/kiji/20181118s00079000306000c.html

 

Sorry if this is not so comprehensible. I'm not a medical specialist so I am not sure if this is a correct explanation in English.

 

ETA: revised the translation checking another source

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Ok so I researched bc I was curious and only read if you want to also hop on the depression train w me tbh.

Obviously not much is known of his injury so this is basically a moot point until we know more (and hopefully these are the worst case scenarios?)

I got too tired to search for triangle ligament damage bc i should still be studying 

 

anterior tibiofibular ligament injury

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It can take six to seven weeks before athletes return to play. In those cases in which a separation of the tibia and fibula or fracture has occurred and surgery is necessary, patients will likely need to be non weight bearing in a cast followed by a walking boot for about 12 weeks. It can take a minimum of six weeks and routinely three months or more to return to play, but can sometimes take even longer. A general rule of thumb is that bones take roughly six weeks to heal while soft tissues (e.g., ligaments) take around three months to heal

 

peroneal muscle tendon injury

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So surgery is also mentioned here. I didn't read everything bc it's v long but this would be the worst case scenario?

Success rates following tenodesis (type of surgery) are high at approximately 70% to 80% with return to activity at about 12 weeks.

(peroneal tendon rupture): where both tendons are degenerate ...The second stage is performed six to 12 weeks later (after the first surgery)

 

He really shouldn't skate until he's fully healed bc it will make his injury worse and 3 weeks is not enough time tbh (unless it's not as bad as it sounds which is unlikely). I'll support whatever he chooses but please Yuzuru put your health first for now.

[Lily*]

I don’t think we can trust anything the Federation says. Yuzu specifically told us yesterday that he would need three weeks of complete rest so, including adjustment period, it would be difficult for him to even make it to the Nationals. I can’t help but think that he is trying to tell us the truth but isn’t allowed to announce his WD until the last minute for reasons. Not really his but those of all the parties concerned.

(And, hi everyone! )

[airi]

Well the truth is we don't really know anything, this isn't a final diagnosis, so we will see. I just hope they're really careful with this. I'd still say GPF and nationals seem unlikely, but we can't really do anything but wait for the news.