Skating on the Planet

[robin]

45 minutes ago, axelnojutsu said:

After that let down of seemingly forgetting everything I learned last week, this week has been pretty amazing, I feel like I’ve made as much progress in just a few days as I have since I started skating 

Finally managed the spin entry and a couple revolutions without falling over, a somewhat acceptable spiral, suddenly “got” 3 turns inside and outside....

I’m just so happy and motivated right now, I hope it’ll last

 

OMG yayyyyy!! 3turns are a big milestone 

 

I am happy today, too. I fixed the timing of my toe and sal. Now I am managing to counter-rotate my arms a bit before I take off for my toe (I used to start the rotation with my arms already turned out) and I learned to settle on my lbi between 3turn and sal and still create enough momentum for the jump without using the momentum of the 3turn. Also I am starting to make it a habit to keep my landing leg straight during jumps.

 

And I have been doing waltz+toe+toe... and sal+toe combos. Combos are a whole new level of fun!

[robin]

Is it twizzles if I do rbo and rfi 3turns in quick succession? (my record is 6) 

[Xen]

Need help....I finally got a coach, and coach says I need to go back and work on my basics, so I'm also kicked back to crossovers. T_T According to coach, I rely too much on my first push to get speed, and that underpush is just a feeble little thing. So my speedboost is not ideal. Anyone have suggestions on how to improve that? I've never had such issues on my crossovers before that I'm a bit lost. And such a pointed specific issue too. 

 

On a side note, I get somewhat how Yuzu felt when he got told by Brian to work on skating skills. Today my first session was the same-passed my spins portion, passed my jumps portion, got told to go practice crossovers.  It's a bit like, you can do really advanced linear algebra, but get told by your professor that you need to go back and do your multiplication tables. 

[axelnojutsu]

1 hour ago, Xen said:

Need help....I finally got a coach, and coach says I need to go back and work on my basics, so I'm also kicked back to crossovers. T_T According to coach, I rely too much on my first push to get speed, and that underpush is just a feeble little thing. So my speedboost is not ideal. Anyone have suggestions on how to improve that? I've never had such issues on my crossovers before that I'm a bit lost. And such a pointed specific issue too. 

 

On a side note, I get somewhat how Yuzu felt when he got told by Brian to work on skating skills. Today my first session was the same-passed my spins portion, passed my jumps portion, got told to go practice crossovers.  It's a bit like, you can do really advanced linear algebra, but get told by your professor that you need to go back and do your multiplication tables. 

I’m still a total noob and can’t actually do it  properly myself, but we did an exercise this week that was supposed to tackle that issue as well where you’d basically repeat that underpush or whatever you want to call it several times in a row before continuing with the crossover

I’m proud to say I only fell once trying to do it lol

[yuzuangel]

8 hours ago, robin said:

Is it twizzles if I do rbo and rfi 3turns in quick succession? (my record is 6) 

Yeah twizzles are exactly just consecutive 3turns

in fact i've heard them called consecutive 3turns more than uncentered spins, which are different bc you dont have weight shift...

[robin]

1 hour ago, yuzuangel said:

Yeah twizzles are exactly just consecutive 3turns

in fact i've heard them called consecutive 3turns more than uncentered spins, which are different bc you dont have weight shift...

 

coooool! They're scary tho... whenever I attempt this I go into it expecting to fall on my bum

[Xen]

11 hours ago, axelnojutsu said:

I’m still a total noob and can’t actually do it  properly myself, but we did an exercise this week that was supposed to tackle that issue as well where you’d basically repeat that underpush or whatever you want to call it several times in a row before continuing with the crossover

I’m proud to say I only fell once trying to do it lol

Hmm, I'll look that up. So far I'm trying to come up with exercises that can be used, since I actually find most footwork practice really boring. T_T Currently listing crossover-3turn-back mohawk-crossover on a circle as one.

 

5 hours ago, robin said:

 

coooool! They're scary tho... whenever I attempt this I go into it expecting to fall on my bum

I just think about it as a 1 foot spin a little bit further back on my blade...

[robin]

I had my second lesson today and after I complained about too many people being there last time they made a new group with less people. So today there was just me and one other person and I had a really really good lesson. The teacher taught me loops and I actually ended up landing proper ones towards the end of the lesson. In the beginning of the lesson loops felt impossible but I actually managed. So that was really great

 

And the teacher is also happy with my sals now. I land good ones consistently which is also really great

 

[robin]

For me loops work better tanoed. Holding up my right arm helps me straighten my posture and “pull” myself up 

[Xen]

5 hours ago, robin said:

For me loops work better tanoed. Holding up my right arm helps me straighten my posture and “pull” myself up 

You need to show us, I forgot who but someone was asking for a tanoed or ripponed jump at some point. =D

 

Did I ever mention, I hate backspins? rinkmate kept on telling me I was doing it wrong, until I entered nearly flinging myself out in the process of finding my right toepick spin point. >_<

[robin]

1 hour ago, Xen said:

You need to show us, I forgot who but someone was asking for a tanoed or ripponed jump at some point. =D

 

Did I ever mention, I hate backspins? rinkmate kept on telling me I was doing it wrong, until I entered nearly flinging myself out in the process of finding my right toepick spin point. >_<

 

LOL my loops are still so bad tho... I am still trying to get the timing

 

I get scared even thinking about backspins D:

 

 

[axelnojutsu]

Is there a way to reduce nausea from spins other than just doing it 1000000 times? I get motion sickness after like 2 rotations, it's kinda counterproductive  

[Xen]

6 hours ago, axelnojutsu said:

Is there a way to reduce nausea from spins other than just doing it 1000000 times? I get motion sickness after like 2 rotations, it's kinda counterproductive  

Um, not really? I think you just get used to it, and the dizziness is less if you manage to center your spin-that's actually my way of checking if I centered my spins. Very Dizzy-didn't center. Not dizzy or only slightly dizzy-centered the spin. 

Better explained here:

 

    

[yuzuangel]

7 hours ago, axelnojutsu said:

Is there a way to reduce nausea from spins other than just doing it 1000000 times? I get motion sickness after like 2 rotations, it's kinda counterproductive  

47 minutes ago, Xen said:

that's actually my way of checking if I centered my spins. Very Dizzy-didn't center. Not dizzy or only slightly dizzy-centered the spin. 

yeah, i've realized this too - randomly spinning myself around (whether on ice or in an office chair or whatever) for a couple of rotations = super dizzy and nauseous. but doing 15 rotations on ice in a semi-centered spin = 5 seconds of lightheadness, but no nausea or prolonged dizziness. 

i have noticed that i get dizzy when i spin faster than usual, but after a while when i get used to it i stop getting dizzy. and then i get dizzy again as i get even faster 

 

tbf i kind of enjoy being really dizzy, idk why, i'm such a masochist

[Xen]

17 minutes ago, yuzuangel said:

tbf i kind of enjoy being really dizzy, idk why, i'm such a masochist

I never get dizzy when doing rotations for jumps though...

Masochism and figure skating go together- otherwise why would you consider the risk of dizziness, risk of kneecaps hurting, thighs hurting, ankles hurting all in a good day of practice?