General Yuzuru Chat

[KatjaThera]

Regarding the risking Olympic Gold by going after his skating ideal, I think it's a matter of weighing pros and cons.

 

If he won Olympics with a watered down program, he'd probably regret it, because it's not like him and he'd think of how much more awesome it would have been to win with his ideal program.

 

If he lost Olympics with his ideal program, but made mistakes, he'd regret making mistakes, but would he regret not going for a safer, watered down program?

 

Considering his choices so far this year, I think he's already made up his mind. And all the "skate like myself" comments he's made prove it. He'll stay true to himself and go for his risky ideal and work hard so he doesn't make mistakes.

 

Like I told @SparkleSalad after NHK Gala, I have absolutely no doubt that he CAN do it. I'm just not sure he will. He's not a robot and he makes mistakes and that's part of why it's so exciting - read: bad for one's blood pressure - to watch him. From the first moment of his program to the last, you have no idea what's going to happen. He could splat in the middle of his step sequence, or sit during his sit spin (though, seriously, those are both mistakes he's learned from and never did again). But he can do it. His ideal skate is not impossible for him. It's just a matter of everything falling into place.

 

But this is also why I really wanted him to know we support him no matter what. To us he already is the GOAT and I think I admire him even more that he's going for his ideal over the safer option for OGM (though unlike others, I'm not sure that'd be very safe either; if he lost motivation, he'd be even more prone to mistakes, and even the smallest mistake could spell disaster with the others getting quad candies).

[PapiandPooh422]

2 hours ago, Aotoshiro said:

Put it in the team superstitious thread, your phone is officially superstitious. Or your soundoracle evolved into sound-and-pic oracle. Should be more accurate like this  

_{Also I bet your phone gallery is beautiful...}

2 hours ago, lilsailor said:

that works so well w that photo though

I have a confession to make. When I browse the net and see Yuzu adorable pics I always tell myself "You didn't see anything! You didn't see anything!" and yet my phone's gallery grows day by day.

 

Btw, with you telling that my music player is a great sound-and-pic oracle, I don't know what to feel when my screen greeted me with this... 

https://mobile.twitter.com/PapiandPooh421/status/930620868765429760/photo/1

And it doesn't help Zhenya that the first lines of the song is 

Oh, boy I love you so

And I will never let you go

[kaeryth]

This is actually the perfect time (got injured doing a 4Lz, never mind he had a fever) for trolls, antis, and media to come up with narratives for Yuzu because they can guise it under 'being worried'. People saying he can win with just 4T and 4S are also the people who will say 'it's because he doesn't have the harder quads' if he happens to lose with a watered down content (which he will never do unless absolutely necessary for his health and even then I can't say this is a guarantee). This is why they are encouraging that narrative of he doesn't need a 4Lz - because with a 4Lz, the younger guys don't have the BV advantage. So my advise is to just ignore articles like that... Olympic season is rife with these things.

[kaeryth]

By the way, is this one of his messages at the Sendai exhibition?

 

 

[the50person]

 

[singcarcom]

31 minutes ago, PapiandPooh421 said:

I have a confession to make. When I browse the net and see Yuzu adorable pics I always tell myself "You didn't see anything! You didn't see anything!" and yet my phone's gallery grows day by day.

 

Btw, with you telling that my music player is a great sound-and-pic oracle, I don't know what to feel when my screen greeted me with this... 

https://mobile.twitter.com/PapiandPooh421/status/930620868765429760/photo/1

And it doesn't help Zhenya that the first lines of the song is 

Oh, boy I love you so

And I will never let you go

 

Oh god, your phone is a genius!!! 

 

18 minutes ago, the50person said:

 

 

Sometimes, it's hard to ignore the unfair criticisms though 

 

*Breaks WR* "Overscored!!!" 

*Doesn't break WR* "He's no longer relevant!!!* 

[PapiandPooh422]

9 minutes ago, singcarcom said:

 

Oh god, your phone is a genius!!! 

 

 

Sometimes, it's hard to ignore the unfair criticisms though 

 

*Breaks WR* "Overscored!!!" 

*Doesn't break WR* "He's no longer relevant!!!* 

No. My phone's not a genius. It just likes to play with my feelings.

 

Can we just electrify their brains!? So that it can work properly. Here they are saying Yuzu is inconsistent but hearing them, they are the ones who's inconsistent!! 

[Xen]

11 minutes ago, PapiandPooh421 said:

No. My phone's not a genius. It just likes to play with my feelings.

 

Can we just electrify their brains!? So that it can work properly. Here they are saying Yuzu is inconsistent but hearing them, they are the ones who's inconsistent!! 

Nah, it's like a forbidden love for them. Like they love YUzu, but they are told to be proper little media they cannot love Yuzu, cause he hurts their own Feds favorites, it crossing lines, borders and standard barriers. So they are conflicted, then hate themselves for loving this thing they are not allowed to love, and in the depths of their despair the only release valve is to say how bad he is. 

 

In reality probably not the case, but this psycho drama is way more interesting as a reason.

[PapiandPooh422]

12 minutes ago, Xen said:

Nah, it's like a forbidden love for them. Like they love YUzu, but they are told to be proper little media they cannot love Yuzu, cause he hurts their own Feds favorites, it crossing lines, borders and standard barriers. So they are conflicted, then hate themselves for loving this thing they are not allowed to love, and in the depths of their despair the only release valve is to say how bad he is. 

 

In reality probably not the case, but this psycho drama is way more interesting as a reason.

Umm, it's like a fanfic you're brewing. 

[Xen]

1 minute ago, PapiandPooh421 said:

Umm, it's like a fanfic you're brewing. 

Nah, better as a musical.

 

 I'm on a cellphone, otherwise I feel plot bunnies perking up. Need a title suggestion.

[PapiandPooh422]

9 minutes ago, Xen said:

Nah, better as a musical.

Umm, some kind of Leś Miserables

 

I love him but everyday I'm learning

All my life I've only been pretending! 🎶 🎶 🎶 

[singcarcom]

4 minutes ago, Xen said:

Nah, it's like a forbidden love for them. Like they love YUzu, but they are told to be proper little media they cannot love Yuzu, cause he hurts their own Feds favorites, it crossing lines, borders and standard barriers. So they are conflicted, then hate themselves for loving this thing they are not allowed to love, and in the depths of their despair the only release valve is to say how bad he is. 

 

In reality probably not the case, but this psycho drama is way more interesting as a reason.

 

The minds of the conflicted critics:

 

What a phenomenal performance by Y...wait, Yuzuru Hanyu?!

 

It's his fault that *insert any skater's name* didn't win GPF for the past 4 years...how dare he dominate figure skating? And he does so by losing (still got silver) for a few competitions but winning the big ones? That's blasphemy!

 

But, his programs were so gorgeous though....and he holds all the WRs...

 

No...those are overscored! And how can he keep breaking the WRs? At this rate, when the candies are finally enough to break his old record, he's already created another unreachable record! Such a selfish person for hogging all the WRs...

 

Can't wait for him to r****, time to let the others shine!

 

Alright, so he's withdrawn from NHK and missing out on GPF? Nooo....come back...how can he be so reckless? He shouldn't do the Lutz...now GPF will no longer be the same without him...

 

[singcarcom]

Yuzu: I'm the one that got away 

[axelsandwich]

1 hour ago, kaeryth said:

This is actually the perfect time (got injured doing a 4Lz, never mind he had a fever) for trolls, antis, and media to come up with narratives for Yuzu because they can guise it under 'being worried'. People saying he can win with just 4T and 4S are also the people who will say 'it's because he doesn't have the harder quads' if he happens to lose with a watered down content (which he will never do unless absolutely necessary for his health and even then I can't say this is a guarantee). This is why they are encouraging that narrative of he doesn't need a 4Lz - because with a 4Lz, the younger guys don't have the BV advantage. So my advise is to just ignore articles like that... Olympic season is rife with these things.

^Yes to all of the above.

 

He's a bit 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'. If he keeps 4Lz and fails, people will say he could've played it safe and won. If he doesn't keep the 4Lz and any of his rivals land more/equal number of quads, there may be space for him to lose and/or people will complain about his PCS/GOEs (or say stuff like he was being judged on an easier layout/different standard). The only way he can win absolutely and unequivocally (in his mind, I'm guessing) is to match the hardest tech (as in have the same range of jump varieties) + clean skate. That being said, I still think if he kept his WC layout and skated 2 clean programs, that would still prevail with very little room for debate so that's the gamble he'd be taking.    

 

I wonder if the kuyashii from taking a risk with his ideal layout and losing will be stronger than if he won with a 'safer' layout and which he would prefer. I suppose it comes down to whether his ideal is two clean skates at the Olympics or if it's to skate clean with the +4Lz/originally planned layout. That being said, we know from precedent that an easier layout does not equal a clean skate so I'm almost positive the most devastating scenario for him is if he goes safe and still doesn't skate clean. Sigh. What can we do. All we can hope is that he knows what he's doing and recovers enough to contemplate this question. 

[Anony]

11 minutes ago, Xen said:

Nah, it's like a forbidden love for them. Like they love YUzu, but they are told to be proper little media they cannot love Yuzu, cause he hurts their own Feds favorites, it crossing lines, borders and standard barriers. So they are conflicted, then hate themselves for loving this thing they are not allowed to love, and in the depths of their despair the only release valve is to say how bad he is. 

 

In reality probably not the case, but this psycho drama is way more interesting as a reason.

Ph1l Hershey bar bought out every magazine with Yuzuru's face in Kinokuniya. He has constructed two shrines dedicated to his one true love, Yuzuru Hanyu. Every night, after supper, he prays to the shrine for letting him eat without choking and before bed he lights up his Bath and Body Works scented candles by the Yuzuru Hanyu altar by his bed and stares at how beautifully the 27383 magazine cut outs of Yuzuru looks lit red and orange by the candle flame. He then takes out his copy of Blue Flames to read to himself and his Pooh plush for a bed time story and then lovingly tuck Pooh in, knowing his love Yuzuru would be proud of his act of kindness. Ph1lly then tuck himself to bed, to spend the night dreaming of the Prince of his heart, Yuzuru Hanyu.

 

 

Tbc