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The purpose of this thread is to collect important news and media updates related to Yuzuru Hanyu that are posted in the General Yuzuru Chat (and sometimes on various Event threads) starting with August 2017. This will help in making it easier to catch up with Yuzuru news and the (hands down) busiest thread of Planet Hanyu. We want to keep things organized so only assigned Administrators and Members will update this thread.
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a couple of weeks ago on youtube comments section someone asked about 4A and I wrote a huge text about it and I decided to share it here too because I don't feel like its fully correct. I did a lot of research to understand it correctly but im neither a jump specialist nor a long-time skating follower so if there are any skating-fan/nerd/geek is here and correct me then I would very appreciate it. here is the text's slightly organized version. I'll explain as I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong. For example, yuzuru's 3A jump is higher than the other skaters (that is, when we consider that we place the vertices of the parabola formed by the jump on the coordinate plane, the apex of yuzu's jump is higher), which means that yuzu needs more height to make 3.5 turns. other skaters can complete these 3.5 turns lower than him.(Yuzuru=70cm, others avg=58-60cm) it means his body rotates a bit slowly in the air than other skaters, so he needs more height and, accordingly, more time to stay in the air to complete the same number of rotations. (airtime varies depending on the speed of the toe pick of the skates blade when it comes out of contact with the ice and the weight of the skater and also of course if the jump is edge or toe but for now we are focusing only on the axel jump which is the edge jump) the reason he needs more height than the other skaters is because other skaters just getting speed and just jump it casually but yuzuru doesnt do that because he find this as a ''regular skate'' he want that beauty that elegance and that recklessness in his skate and this is what we call the skate of only hanyu can do. so sake of the achieve that he does his jumps directly with back counter (as you probably know they call it ''out of nowhere'') and most of the time with difficult transitions on the entrance for exists generally do twizziles or complicated step sequences. and all of this makes harder to jump because he doesnt gain his speed directly. but still this doesn't change the stats. Of course, the same is valid for his 4A jump. Since he couldn't complete the number of turns fast enough in the air (4.5 turns), he tries to go up even more. (the vertex logic of the parabola I just mentioned.) Going higher means doing the jump faster. but this time, even though he completed his turns on the way up and did not have any problem, he would hit the ice faster as he would gain much more acceleration when going down, and he could not fully complete his remaining rotations while coming down (which is why his jumps were never considered full rotation, always a quarter or half turn was considered less). Because of this extreme speed from the acceleration, he cannot control all this speed with one foot and this causing him to either hurt his ankle much more or land the jump with both feet. The speed that he suddenly starts to gain after reaching the highest point already breaks the parallelism of yuzuru's axis when he started to jump. If the angle between your body's axis with the ice when you start and the angle your body makes with the ice during the descent phase is almost the same then you can successfully land the jump. About these two similar angles, I mean the first angle is an acute angle, then if you lose balance or focus while completing rotations, your body will break that curve of axis parallel to the first position. physics only allows you to lower it until the final angle is 90 degrees. If the second angle is a wide angle, you will fall clearly or you will save the situation by making a spread eagle or crossing to other foot, but the GOE you will receive will be minus. however, the jumps of ilia malinin are not like this. Ilia reaches the peak quickly, and when he reaches it, he has already completed most of the rotations. At the same time, since he can rotate his body faster, he does not need more speed than he can control like yuzuru and he can land cleanly. I mean of course his 4A jumps are higher than Yuzuru (someone mentioned its 84cm not quite sure though) but he has more stable body control than Yuzuru and he can make balance. but despite all this, I was amazed at how yuzu could improve the jump so much. He said he did 5T and 5S with harness to simulate that amount of rotation in his head and wanted to experience that feeling. It's amazing that he was able to improve such a difficult jump so much at an age that is considered "old" for figure skating. I'm sure he could have landed the jump much more easily if he had taken this risk when he was younger. Speaking of preparation, contrary to what I mentioned above, yuzu this time put aside the artistic side (what im trying to say is he tried it without difficult transitions etc) and focused only on successfully landing the jump as the first priority, which is a very logical choice. In other words, we can say that the necessary preparations to gain speed are almost the same. As for the technical part, yuzuru didnt do the prerotations (i mean he didnt want to do it, didn’t want to decrease his quality of his jumps and wanted to land it beatufily.) thats why he struggled too much. about the technique they use is of course very different, yuzuru uses the jumping technique of ghishlain briand (which I think is a great technique that allows you to make complete textbook jumps in a long term), and at the same time, he added small differences to the take off when he was training in sendai on his own during the quarantine period. Ilia's take off technique is slighty different, but unfortunately I don't know which coach he is working with. At the same time, ilia can rotate his upper body faster than yuzu, which is the most important difference between them. I attribute the reason for this difference to body condition. and that is the age gap between them. which is 10 years difference and it is a huge diffrence for figure skating. some resources that I used: 3A's height, speed and distance comparisons https://eksiup.com/p/r5509827c64f this includes great images about the axis and body angle that i mentioned
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Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to put this but does anyone actually skate themselves? I've started learning about a year ago, but only the last 3 months have been going every day (before it was on average once a week or two weeks, now it's 5 times a week although recently I'm slacking off ;_;) Just wondering how you guys are progressing, when you started, what can you do? As for me, I've been just doing basics like toe loop, waltz jump, salchow, loop, and some one-foot upright spins. It takes a lot longer than I expected and I still skate soooo sloowwww haha.
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Since the general thread is moving like it's on steroids (which is fabulous, do carry on please, no doping tests present here), it is easy to get all the skating talk lost, including any and all information that we might receive, that others may want to catch up on quickly. So. Skating talk only please. -Layout talk -Practices talk -Competition discussion -you get the drift and I'm lazy. Skating info only please.
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Hello! This thread is request translations for tweets, articles, videos and other stuff that you might find Provide a link, video, or clear photo or scan of the source and remember that translators do this for free! Thank you
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Let's compile any and all translations/information about Yuzu's thesis so we have a common thread to refer to... Direct link to thesis (abstract is in english): https://waseda.repo.nii.ac.jp/index.php?action=repository_view_main_item_detail&item_id=64787&item_no=1&page_id=13&block_id=21 Partial translation by Axel with Wings https://axelwithwings.com/2021/07/31/eng-translation-a-feasibility-study-on-utilization-in-figure-skating-by-a-wireless-inertia-sensor-motion-capture-system-yuzuru-hanyu-20210318/#more-561 A tweet thread summarizing Yuzu's research. Thread Translation of the Departmental Bulletin Paper, Waseda Journal of Human Sciences (67 tweets + 1 reply at the 19th tweet) An article in an academic journal which summarizes the first part of his thesis. Thread Translation of the abstract. Thread Thread Another translation compilation: A video talking about his thesis [TW: NHK '17 photo]: A tweet thread translating Yuzu's interview with Professor Nishimura
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Which US-President once called Katarina Witt a "fridge" after realizing that she is not interested in him? Ronald Reagan Bill Clinton Donald Trump Barrack Obama Who is the designer of a watch named "Spin Master"? Evgeni Plushenko Stephane Lambiel Evan Lysacek Daisuke Takahashi Which woman was once a vice world champion at a men's competition? Katarina Witt Madge Syers Trixi Schuba Alexandra Trusova Which car manufacturer is sponsoring Shoma Uno? Fiat BMW Toyota Honda Which figure skater was once accused of stealing a car? Yuzuru Hanyu Shoma Uno Boyang Jin Andrei Lutai Which world champion lost one of his his gold medals in a car theft? Elvis Stojko Brian Joubert Alexei Jagudin Todd Eldredge What was Tonya Harding doing on a professional level after her figure skating career? Bobsledding Boxing Bowling Biathlon Who became the employer of the former "Quad King" Timothy Goebel? Google Amazon Microsoft Apple Which comic character was impersonated by Philippe Candeloro at the WC of 1996? Asterix Obelix Lucky Luke Spirou Which movie from the early 80s showed Denise Biellmann as an actress? The Bushido Blade Piratensender Powerplay Excalibur Raiders of the Lost Ark What kind of pets are owned by Boyang Jin? Honey Bears White Tigers Verreaux's Sifakas Reptiles What were figure skating women required to wear in the early days? Hats Handbags Umbrellas Cones of shame Which World Champion wrote a book named "Morphologische Studien über Borkenkäfer"? Willy Böckl Gilbert Fuchs Fritz Kachler Jan Hoffmann Who was singing "Sag es mir"? Javier Fernandez Manfred Schnelldorfer Emmerich Danzer Yuzuru Hanyu What kind of beverage is advertised by Patrick Chan? Wheat Beer Raspberry Juice Lemonade Riesling What is Stephane Lambiel called by his fans? The Stallion Captain Zebra Chief Crazy Horse Donkey King What is Ivan Righini's nickname? Gypsy King The Duke Ivan the Terrible Allgäu Boy Which Non-European skater used to be an European Champion? Brian Orser Brian Boitano Jeffrey Buttle Dick Button
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