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Doesn't matter what anyone says to criticise. Doesn't matter which records are rewritten. Doesn't matter who receives the medals. Yuzu has a Gold Olympic medal in EACH hand He's back ..... Exciting or what

@Yuzuwinnie Sadly had to make do with watching on TV. Yuzu and his WD left the men's field quite bland. The non contender groups were more interesting as despite lack of loads of quads or even no quads, those competitors really tried to have a good skate and made a good effort with skating skills. The medals group was lack lustre in comparison and of course no Yuzu

@Yuzuwinnie Exactly that, Dai T after having retired/returned over several cycles has found new purpose with Ice Dance I watched him compete with Kana M at WC this year. In interview he had spoken to some commentators about improving upper body strength for the lifts. This is well within the capabilities of Yuzu. The lifts are not throws and not beyond Yuzu if he wanted to do this. As for musicality and skating skills, Yuzu demonstrates his prowess with these elements time and again. Female skaters would be lining up for auditions to partner Yuzu

Oh no lightbulb moment Is it specified that Yuzu is competing in singles? What if he has moved to Ice Dance? He is still competing, but without jumps and strain on his joints, there is potential to go on until 2030 Sapporo. Maybe when he said he wanted to compete at Sapporo ( if it wins the Olympic bid ) he is switching to ID. Maybe he's already found a female ID partner that is tiny enough for him to lift or strong enough to lift him May be i will go and hide, because that is too far out thinking !!!!

Yuzu has decided to compete for this season. I'm supporting this decision wholeheartedly. Like many satellites, there are misgivings concerning scoring issues, whereby PCS and GOE can be manipulated to place skaters for the podium. This is a real shame. Yuzu is expert and intelligent in terms of fully understanding the implications of this unfair situation. He has, in spite of this made the courageous declaration that his future lies in competitive skating for the time being. Perhaps he is looking at the scoring issues philosophically and will enter the competitions, knowing that the powers that be may well ensure that he cannot win. This is tragic mistreatment, but Yuzu is determined to be seen, skating in his beautiful, artistic, athletic way. Maybe competing with this in mind, will reduce the pressure on him. Yuzu being very aware of all things skating may have come to the realisation that it is not his skating quality that has declined in any way, but the moral deterioration of the behaviours of those in charge. Hopefully, because he knows this, Yuzu can just perform and enthral everyone watching his skating. Yuzu knows that his scores didn't reflect reality since 2019, he is now free from the scoring tyranny, I hope that he just enjoys the experience from now on. I will be grateful, for as long as this lasts Just a different consideration The majority of competitors don't win a medal. If competing was only focussed on making the podium, why would anyone outside of the medal contenders bother turning up to competitions. Clearly they do attend comps and compete and come in nth place and there is satisfaction gained from doing their best. Perhaps Yuzu has accepted that his is enough for him too. I will still be grateful to see Yuzu turn up and skate

There was a list published few months ago by JSF, which had various categories and athletes names within each section. The different sections strengthening, A and B, denotes the level of funding awarded by JSF for athlete training. Category designated 'Strengthening Athlete' is the highest level of funding per athlete. That is my understanding. The info can be found on JSF website, although this seems to have crashed. Hmmm, cannot imagine why that would be the case, it's almost as if people were desperate to find out out some information that has been deemed of importance. Now, what could that possibly be to warrant so much interest? Please JSF, wake up and have a modicum of awareness of what people are genuinely interested in and here's a clue coming, it is not a make believe story.

Officially it was June 30th that was the deadline for notice to given if an athlete is planning to retire. Today is the 1st day of the new skating season, so if Yuzu is still there on the strengthening athlete list an his bio has been released, he has not given notice of retirement, ergo, planning to compete. Yuzu is extremely considerate and if he had been planning on retiring from comps he would have made this announcement at least to JSF, not necessarily for public knowledge, so that any funding potentially being set aside for him would be appropriately reallocated to another athlete. JSF themselves state that funding is awarded only to athletes who have not declared retirement plans and although at the time of publication of funding allocations, they admitted that they had not yet received any communication notifying any changes from Yuzu, he had not indicated retirement at that time. Again this may be purely wishful thinking but that was my understanding from the JSF announcement earlier in the year

The Fujitsu laser tech was considered but the sporting arena for gymnastics is much more circumscribed and predictable compared with the competition rinks. Therefore it's use for skating comps was limited. There is an impression that as this tech had been successfully used in gymnastics, ISU will turn away from this. They seem quite determined to hide from this issue for as long as possible. They are surely aware that their corrupt practices will soon be called out

Thanks for clarifying. It was not clear, whether the equipment used for the study had been borrowed from Waseda equipment library or Yuzu had purchased himself. Either way it is the algorithm/ software for analyses and methodology of the study which is the important aspect for developing the AI for use in competition. Quite right, it is also the intellectual property of Yuzu, hence, only partly published material. How he chooses to develop and apply is his business, alongside his collaboration team. As stated previously, I*U are being deliberately obtuse about the use of technology. The mere fact that even something quite ubiquitous as slow motion nor multi camera angles are not used is nonsense. This is so well known amongst competitors and coaches that it has been mentioned in skating circles that skaters often perform elements in judges 'blind spots' to avoid being called out on less strong aspects of their performance. This has clearly been exploited for ages because judging is purely by eye and can miss so many details. Hopefully the realisation that the wider public have noticed and are watching this intently will lead to change of practice. Alternatively, they won't care and essentially flush their own remaining shreds of reputation and credibility down the loo and be gone, swept aside for something better as a sports governing body. Sad to say, but I hope that Yuzu will never be sucked into this corrupt organisation in any manner If he coaches, let it be for consultation like technique masterclasses or sports mental game type of work. Otherwise if this dreadfully managed and run organisation somehow avoids extinction they would try to punish Yuzu's students. He would not forgive himself if he thought he'd brought ill treatment upon another person because he has such empathy.

The sporting world has viewed the dreadfulness in FIG camp. They had to clean up and restore their reputation. It may be that ISU takes heed of the letter campaign and motion scoring. Being aware that there is scrutiny and judgement may encourage a clean up act. If not then boycott events unless Yuzu is attending. If nothing else the accountants will soon explain the truth about income stream. If ticket sales and paid TV subscriptions plummet without Yuzu vs scramble for tickets and tv subs rocket with Yuzu, then the revenue from broadcasting rights, advertising and sponsorship follows, the message will get through. Equally, tarnished reputations quickly come to the attention of sponsoring parties, the will want distance between themselves and organisations which are negatively viewed. Once organisations feel financial pressure, the need for cash flow often wakes them up. It's a long game but if it yields the desired result, better and accountable behaviour and practice. Then it will have been a worthwhile campaign. If they can't improve then everyone will see this and make their own decisions about continued complicity supporting a corrupt organisation or leaving them to rot.

Joyous beauty to behold question: How could anyone even contemplate being mean to Yuzu? How is it even possible to stay so youthful, despite all the trials life has thrown in Yuzu's direction? Perhaps a cheerful outlook imbues people with beauty from within and it shines through to his visage. Convincing evidence that there really is a crystal fountain in a courtyard of a palace on Planet Hanyu Dear Yuzu, may you never have to look into the pit of despair ever again. Wishing you sunshine, rainbows a ratified 4A and healthy ankles and a treasure chest full of good things, including hypoallergenic kittens

More like intense wish fulfilment. It's like predicting which catastrophe will be the end of the world - super volcano vs killer asteroid For ISU - bankruptcy vs totally smeared reputation, or both

There are many expert and motivated Satellites who have already accessed some of the technological tools with which to analyse skating footage. It will be really fascinating to see the motion capture tool used with scores derived from the tech vs scores awarded by judging panels. It will equally interesting to see what kind of reactions these comparison scoring tool draw from people on social media platforms Small fan folk don't need to plot against their nefarious ways, ISU are masterminding their own downfall, with their corrupt behaviour and poor practice

Yuzu gave various interviews in Beijing. At the press conference he talked about his 9 yo self and how aged 9, Yuzu was small and needed to approach the axel really fast in order to rotate. Yuzu talked about rediscovering his form to jump the axel 9-10 days before the FS in Beijing In a previous interview, he talked about Nanami sensei giving him an iPod for having landed 3A, she gave him wise counsel "Never forget your beginner's mind" - She KNEW then that Yuzu would really need to recall her advice in later life. Sure enough it was the technique from Yuzu's childhood which would serve him in his quest fro the 4A Destiny smiles again.

Hmmm, maybe yes maybe no After all what could possibly have crossed my mind whenever Yuzu was underscored grotesquely and mistreated by ISU and humiliated, seeing non deservers overscored and crowned as false kings Surely it would never ever have occurred to any of us small fan folk to spend the past four years plotting the downfall of archaic organisations, no not at all. hehehe

hehehe Once the legions of Pooh warrior have thrown their honey grenades, the Shikigami jump squad will shriek "RELEASE THE HORNETS" Let chaos reign.

Hooray, Hissing Pooh has returned to wreak his revenge, to avenge Yuzu

I kind of see the auditors and bankers as the Goblins at Gringotts

Pray silence......DESTINY is at work, please form an orderly queue "Next" minion looks at clipboard " Ahh yes, Please step this way Mr Hanyu" .....and the rest is history

Maybe this is why Sendai rink is "undergoing maintenance" The Ice Emperor is sitting on an iron throne made of broken skate blades, in the centre of the rink, awaiting the envoy, with Nessie coiled around his feet

I understand entirely that this is related to the issue of finding a suitable event venue for hosting one of the GP series. Wouldn't it be amusing though, if the accounting team for ISU had carefully explained Hanyuconomy to the council. The council had then needed to form an emergency special envoy to pay homage to the Ice Emperor in order to beg him to grace them with one more competitive season. Therefore, saving their skins, both from the auditors and bankers wrathful cry for debt consolidation edit: typo correction, overexcitement at the thought of financial ruin for I*U

I'd actually like to become a shareholder in the company that loans to ISU just for the satisfaction of knowing that they owe money to me

Let's all go on tour of Japan and visit lovely places including Sendai. I would love to go to exhibition dedicated to Yuzu. Really hope that one day they will be permanent Hanyu museum with all of the costumes, medals, skates. Merchandise wise, of only a good quality playlist of skating pieces would be released Performance videos as well but without commentary and applause, just to enjoy Yuzu skating without any distraction. Edit for weird auto type sorry

Look at that expression

@Sun_Rise Yes, correct ISU congress discussion about the feasibility study for using the Sportlogiq tool was very wooly. ISU could decide that the use of technology is not feasible because it may an embarrassment to them when it exposes huge discrepancy between how skating programme has been judged objectively using the tech and the subjective scoring of the judges and their biases There was no discussion about how or when the study would be implemented. Any report of methodology, results, conclusion would not surface until the next congress and perhaps might even be buried if the study demonstrates poor judging practice That is why it is important that other forms of tech and expert analyses to be published on social media platforms. Allow the results to be viewed and let the interested public come to their own conclusions. ISU need to be aware that their practices cannot stay hidden and that people are accumulating knowledge about judging and scoring and becoming well informed and that overwhelming public opinion will matter to them when people make their own views count. If ISU become aware that they are being scrutinised and that their reputation is at stake and that their commercial interests hinge on the credibility of their public image they may take steps to reduce poor practice As science teaches us, the act of observation can alter the result. The choice of Sportlogiq. The following is conjecture only. The tool for the study is a Canadian brand. ISU must be aware of Yuzu's thesis. They may have illogically chosen a non Japanese brand because they imagine that it will not have any input from Yuzu's study. However, although Yuzu used equipment from Waseda which may well have been Japanese, it is the algorithm for analysis which is the keystone for the thesis. As far as anyone knows Yuzu has not launched a commercial product, nobody except Yuzu +/- team know whether he has been approached about using his algorithm for a larger trial/study. It would be ironic if the analytical algorithm used by Sportlogiq is base on the one created by Yuzu Hope you don't mind posting on this thread, you might want to discuss here because this is related to ISU congress and not rant. The salt thread is archived regularly and this is a subject which may warrant further discussion as more information appears