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I'm not too good with spreadsheets so I'm glad you're sacrificing yourself As a notorious procrastinator I really can't help you with focusing on studying tho. I'm the worstttt in that aspect
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I think you can take your time since we probably won't be starting until after the parade Can I be mean? What if there were two columns and in the first one judges would enter how many GOE bullets are checked and in the other they'd enter the necessary deductions? and the thing outputs the factorized GOE in a third column? I realize that the real pain will be to tell the spreadsheet how to factorize the GOEs since it's different for each element
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We'll squeeze every water molecule out of the content we get in the next two weeks and try to survive on it (and streaming parties yayy)
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Sounds good! We can also do a combination of both. For those who need a bit more motivation we could also set a date close to the deadline and do it during a rabbit session?
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I‘ll add you as a side-judge for now
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The details look truly heavenly Such a shame they‘re not as visible from a distance
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Hm the thing is there is a slight degree of PR that’s acceptable. Should we not take that into account at all? But ofc just strictly counting the rotations is the most straightforward and would also make things easier and simpler for the TP I think it’s fine either way as long as we‘re being consistent.
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One reason why I would lean towards being a liiiittle lenient with PRs is that since TPs haven’t actually been calling them skaters haven‘t had motivation to work as much on them as they work on URs. We can put the threshold for ladies a little higher but then again men and women are also judges the same in URs so I am not sure... and yes, pls no corridor judging
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Seimei 2.0 is great but I also appreciate the details of Seimei 1.0 a lot
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Sure, we can see if there’s someone else ready to join you in the TP. If it’s too much work you really don’t have to overlook levels, too. eta: @Fay agreed to help with the TP
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I think we can tweak how we judge a bit to what's more ideal. How about adding pre- and underrotation and judging as you would judge underrotations? Maybe add anything that goes over the acceptable PR of a jump to the UR and lower the BV if necessary. I think pre-rotations can go both into the GOE as poor take-off and into lowering the BV Logistically, maybe the TP does their work first, uses fancams if they want to, and the rest can be judged with the results of the TP already present
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Quoting the discussion from the general skating chat here
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A thread to organize and discusss a mock panel to rescore past competitions. Everyone is welcome to join So we already have the following volunteers @Raomina: app @Xen : TP and judge @hoodie axel: judge @yuzupon: spreadsheets @yuzuangel: judge @Fay: TP @Neenah: side-judge @Nuitsuki: side-judge @Murieleirum: side-judge me (with reservation): side-judge TP results of first round, CoC 2017 ladies short program; https://planethanyu.com/topic/625-mock-judging-panel/?do=findComment&comment=198833
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I will make a thread in a minute! A new one since this is a new start Also, I think what‘s important is that we don’t take each other and ourselves too seriously. We could do something like, publish as google sheets but put a password on it that can be shared via PMs? To avoid any drama and also to make it an overall less stressful experience for everyone involved Actually, if we make it a lighthearted thing I would join, too (but take my scores out of the overall scores, maybe. I‘d score on a hunch and wouldn’t want to be made responsible for the scores I give out lmao. Maybe that way there would be more members who‘d want to join for the learning experience) eta: there‘s also a mechanism where links won’t be displayed to non-members on the whole forum. You have to be logged in to view links so that’s one filter already eta2: we can continue here
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The duality of man
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We‘re not an official panel and should use all the technology we can use (shade intended) so slowmos should be fine It should also be fine to replay elements for GOE scoring?
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LOL we‘ll make sure to send you a care package What‘s most important is being consistent so as long as you score everyone high that should be fine hahah but make sure to leave enough room upwards so that he difference between the really good ones (not naming anyone) and some others can be reflected I was actually thinking of not going into the previous quad at all because the rules were so different
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Since there isn’t a commission breathing into your necks in case you score wildly different from other judges, I don’t think you have to worry about how others score... if that’s what you mean? Just go by your own opinion. The discussion around why everyone scored the way they did would be more interesting if there’s differences, anyway
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You‘re asking the really difficult questions here and there’s a reason why I am not volunteering myself as a judge Probably this should be discussed among the mock judges once we have set a panel? But we definitely don’t have to adapt common practices by judges, like scoring down PCS just because the program isn’t clean. There we go, we found our brave TP actually I‘d love to join, too, but i don’t feel comfortable judging anything but jumps GOE lol. this would end up being a super stressful experience for me so no thanks
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Well this is an open call so if you would want to be part of it we‘re at one Maybe we would have a TP for edge and under calls but we would probably just use the spin and StSq levels already set by the official TP (unless there is someone confident in doing that job) and have at least 6 (maybe even 4 is enough?) judges who would judge all the elements and PCS and enter them in a google spreadsheet? It should be possible to prepare one everyone could work on simultaneously that calculates the results.
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Oh cool that would work too Well, if there's any interest to do another one here we could still do it, even if superfluous. I am not very active on twitter, personally
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/whispers we have a cat thread
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I'm bringing this here. Would anyone be interested in mock judging?
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