General Yuzuru Chat

[Suzu]

2 hours ago, Yuzurella said:

 

Yes, absolutely. Someone with less character would've backed down, but Yuzu never did. He went out there despite all the odds against him and showed the world what true courage is. That's why he has won even more fans and admirers and everybody's attention is on him.

 

People don't remember medals and numbers. These are just statistics. But people do remember other people and things that touched them deeply and made a true impression on them. On top of all the medals Yuzu has won, all his world records, and all his other countable accomplishments, his greatest achievement is the hearts he touched, the lives the impacted, and the people he inspired.

 

Yuzu has made my life better. He has shown me that beauty and good still exist in this world when I was in despair. He gave me hope when I felt hopeless. He was the light in my life when I could only see darkness. I'm sure many of us feel this way about him. 

 

This is probably why we feel so deeply about him. He has given us so much and we want him to have the best things in the world. We want him to be rewarded for his relentless effort and all the heart and soul he pours into his skating. We want him to be healthy, happy, and have fun and enjoy being on the ice. We want to thank him and give back to him.

 

I believe everyone of us has experienced some kind of injustice. I know from personal experience what it feels like to invest a lot of time and effort into something without getting anything in return for it time after time. For me, it's crushing to see how someone like Yuzu - someone who is so good, so excellent, so kind, humble, loving and caring, someone who has such a gentle soul and a heart bursting with love, someone who pours his all into his skating - gets this in return.

 

As of now, it's still not possible to be positive and see any good in this situation. I'm crying again as I'm writing this. I've been crying a lot the last couple of days. But perhaps one day, Yuzu will look back and see that there was something good coming from his experiences at these Olympics. And maybe we will, too.

 

Until then, I find consolation in the fact that Yuzu gets so much love and support from so many people around the world and that he keeps leaving his mark. He is the Champion of Hearts, there is no doubt about it. And if he gives people the courage to move on after falling down, if he gives people hope in the middle of despair, if he inspires people to become a better versions of themselves, if he makes the lives of people better -  as he did and still does for me - then this is greater and more important than any medals or standings could ever be.

 

All I hope for is that Yuzu heals quickly, physically, emotionally and spiritually. I hope he will overcome all of this soon and move on with his life, doing what he loves and enjoys doing, no matter what this might be. And perhaps he can gain some strength and comfort from the outpouring of love and support for him.

Oh, you write so beautifully and I agree every word, I am in tears...Is here anyone who could translate  your writing in Japanese ? I think he should read what you wrote.

It would help him to understand that even if he did not quite fulfil his own dreams he certainly has fulfilled ours and not only fulfilled but exceeded then multiple times.

[LaCarmi]

 

Why is the Olympic slogan not "gold, silver, bronze" but "higher, faster, stronger" and now "more united". Eeven non-fans understand.

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].

[Sombreuil]

20 minutes ago, eren said:

Geez I just finished that article! Both the interviewer and the coach are arrogant in some way. They agree that Yuzu's decisons (like 4A attempt, training and competing without a coach) are global strategic MISTAKES. The coach clearly aims ONLY for medals that's why he thinks of Yuzu's decisions as SILLY and RISKY. He even says that Jason was more rational for skating elementary but SAFE programs.

 

All in all, he and Yuzu hold different values regarding skating and competition, I think.

 

Interviewer: I’m really sorry that there was no duel between Yuzuru and Nathan.

Rafael Arutyunyan: Of course, it’s a pity. Only between these two skaters a real duel could have taken place. Between the cosmic Hanyu and the very prudent, pragmatic and well-prepared Chen.

 

emm...

 

Totally different.  Look at Russia and the US the two places he’s worked - all that matters is the medal table, and when individuals ’ fail’ ie don’t win prizes for you, revile and denigrate them.  They weren’t willing to break themselves on the treadmill of national success.  I wish it were possible to unmoor the Olympic movement from the outdated nationalist model but it’s far too late.  Postwar would have been the best chance, if the IOC could have said , hang on, look at the black comedy that were the Berlin games, let’s take flags and anthems out and have individuals compete, lots of reconstruction going on, let’s reconstruct our movement for a new world situation.  But it’s too bloated to go there now.

[Anabel]

I was thinking about the behavior of the ISU and I have come to the conclusion that all their actions confirm that they see Yuzu as the greatest, don't you think?

 

Let's see the evidence of the crime (to me):

1. They sistematically underscore Yuzu and overscore their favorites: that means they know perfectly well that if they don't there is no way anyone can beat him, except if he fails himself.

2. They systematically use their image to grab attention: who is more charismatic than Yuzu? They perfectly know...

 

So, please, don't hate the ISU, they are saying to us that Yuzu is so great that they are scared of him  

[Pammi]

12 minutes ago, Sombreuil said:

Totally different.  Look at Russia and the US the two places he’s worked - all that matters is the medal table, and when individuals ’ fail’ ie don’t win prizes for you, revile and denigrate them.  They weren’t willing to break themselves on the treadmill of national success.  I wish it were possible to unmoor the Olympic movement from the outdated nationalist model but it’s far too late.  Postwar would have been the best chance, if the IOC could have said , hang on, look at the black comedy that were the Berlin games, let’s take flags and anthems out and have individuals compete, lots of reconstruction going on, let’s reconstruct our movement for a new world situation.  But it’s too bloated to go there now.

After the Men's and Women's FS in the TE there were some awful tweets form US citizens being very critical of Vincent and Karen (FS fans from outside the US were responding about how mean it was to treat your own athletes like that) - the US team could of course end up now with an Olympic Gold  so I guess they'll be getting praised to the heavens if that happens - all about the medals, not about the athletes or their own experience, and hard work they have put in. A very non-humanist perspective. 

Oh I see Evgeni Plushenko has posted in support of Kamila and Eteri today on IG....figure skating is a total mess.

[wingman]

2 hours ago, avelingese said:

It's something I wanted to mention also but I forgot. I feel like he's sad because he feels he did let his fans down. It may be the the expectations and the pressure from the people that thought he's invincible and will get that gold medal anyways. From his interviews pre Olympics I got an impression that he's more like "I didn't even wanted to go there but well, if so, okay, I will try my 4A there". And now people like Yagudin saying he's crazy are not helping at all. So what I was trying to say is that I really hope he sees how brave and amazing he is and will put all of his energy into healing and perfecting his 4A rather than thinking he disappointed anybody because he didn't.

Oh, Yag is a flawed character with ulterior motives, along with many other figure skating "experts".

 

Re: Raf. I had a coach like that (Russian-trained, different sports, but always demeaning to his athletes and says tonnes of unpleasant stuff and does psychologically abuse their athletes to make them stronger). And yes, all that matters is medals and $$$. Raf is a version of Tut. These people aren't worth paying attention to.

 

[TokyoDream]

Press conference is approaching... Yuzu we love you, we support you no matter what and we are immensily proud & inspired by you as a person and as an athlete.
In the last few days your motivation and resilience has helped me push my own boundaries, in areas that are much less impressive than sports, but that matter to me, and for that I am very thankful.

 

I'll be arriving to work right as the press conference begins and I'm too scared to watch in case Yuzu looks even a tiny bit upset (even though I will understand, it's only been a few days) , so I will try and wait 10 hours to check the news, which seems absolutely impossible.

[Yuzurella]

1 hour ago, Suzu said:

Oh, you write so beautifully and I agree every word, I am in tears...Is here anyone who could translate  your writing in Japanese ? I think he should read what you wrote.

It would help him to understand that even if he did not quite fulfil his own dreams he certainly has fulfilled ours and not only fulfilled but exceeded then multiple times.

 

Thank you so much! This is very kind of you.

When it comes to Yuzu, the words sometimes just pour out of me. I really hope he is aware of how much he is loved and supported and that we want nothing more than for him to be healthy and happy.

[Ulrinis]

On 2/12/2022 at 3:14 AM, Harutolama said:

 

Yeah I think JSF wanted a medal from Yuzu. Most of the public did. When I look back at J Nats post interviews J casters asked him if he was going for both OGM and 4A and if he could handle both. Yuzu also said he will train hard in order to win, and that olympics is a stage to win. Most people thought he had to sacrifice either winning or 4A. I also think so too, but Yuzu at the time said that without 4A he couldn't win. He said even if he goes clean, he might not win. I disagree because NC did make a few mistakes in his free skate. If Yuzu went super clean for both SP and FS with a safer layout and brought back 4Lo and 4Lz with 3A-3Lo and jumped 4Lo or 4Lz in SP and FS, then his BV would have had a shot of winning OGM with clean programs because PCS does get boosted massively on olympic stage if both programs are clean. So in a way Yuzu was unrealistic when he said he wanted to win OGM with 4A, and the japanese media and public kind of knows that. I think not having Brian around did influence his tactics this time around 

Did JSF even want a medal from Yuzu? They were probably sure upfront that the gold was reserved for NC, so silver and bronze were possible and they got it. Did it matter for them who would get it? I still can't get over them not applauding. What can Yuzu possibly have done to annoy them? Refuse to be a torch bearer during Tokyo Olympics? We all know Yuzu's tiger look when he is on the ice and he hates losing and he knows he's on a different level - but I cannot imagine him being rude or arrogant to other skaters ... 

[Ulrinis]

On 2/12/2022 at 3:55 AM, Aroissa said:

Hi everyone!

 

I hope it's okay to post this here. I've been a fan of Yuzuru since around 2018 and have been a lurker here for about a year.

 

This Olympics has been emotionally exhausting as I'm sure a lot of you relate to, but it reminded me why I admire Yuzuru Hanyu so much.

 

I'm a college student in the US and have been dealing with my own struggles with the pressure of living up to expectations in an academic setting. I was watching Yuzu's short program live and after the 4S, I was in shock. I couldn't believe that this had happened to him and honestly I felt pretty devastated. The kind of pressure on him here was insane and I don't know how I would have reacted had such a thing happened to me. My heart went out to him, but the way he responded to the situation really spoke to me and reminded me of why he is so inspiring as a person.

 

He didn't panic, skated beautifully for the rest of the performance and was calm and collected as he got off the ice. The way he handled the media and the rest of the event was no different.

 

His resilience in the free skate was no less inspiring. I think he made a good choice to go for the 4A even if people think it potentially cost him a medal. He remained true to himself and what he believed in and performed his best 4A yet (with an injury!). In a way, I think his fourth place finish further proved how much of an impact he has. To me, Yuzu was able to prove here that figure skating is not really about the medals. I know he inspires me just by who he is as a person on-or-off the ice.

 

A lot of what Yuzu has gone through at this Olympics has spoken to parts of my own life which has given me a lot to think about this week. I hope I can act like him moving forward with my own struggles.

 

Also, just kind of an interesting side note:

 

I live in NC's hometown, SLC and I haven't heard a single person talk about his gold medal. I also literally live 5 minutes away from the Olympic torch from 2002, so the Olympics are usually a big deal here (I'm kind of ashamed to say that this gives me a little bit of bitter satisfaction). 

Just goes to show NC will never have the cultural impact Yuzuru has, no matter how many gold medals he wins. 

 

Hello and welcome! I can only agree. Also thank you for this valuable insight regarding SLC! If NC knew this ... 

[Yuzurella]

2 minutes ago, Ulrinis said:

Hello and welcome! I can only agree. Also thank you for this valuable insight regarding SLC! If NC knew this ... 

 

I'm pretty sure NC won't get a parade in SLC. And even if he gets one, the streets might end up being quite empty...

[Guest Mary_kyo]

7 minutes ago, Ulrinis said:

so silver and bronze were possible and they got it. Did it matter for them who would get it?

It did. It did matter a lot to them. It did matter that they overscored the hell out of Shoma's TES to make sure Yuzu stays off-podium. Plus they really wanted to make a momentum for Yuma's next seasons too. 

 

10 minutes ago, Ulrinis said:

I still can't get over them not applauding. What can Yuzu possibly have done to annoy them?

Pathetic inner politics of JSF, Yuzu being from Sendai, Yuzu’s ordinary parents, Yuzu winning over Dai in his early years of senior career, pettiness and jealousy, JSF confessed once that they don’t want just one extremely popular superstar, etc etc etc

 

 

Also I'm so tired of even fans saying Yuzu was unrealistic for going after 4A. No, he wasn't. He knows his potentials much better than anyone else. If only Universe was kinder to him, Beijing could have been much different. I hope at least fans understand how important 4A is for Yuzu as a dream and no, please no, he isn't stupid to try to land it in competition without first landing it in practice. sigh.

[YuDai]

2 hours ago, anastazie_12 said:

I fully agree with you - very well said. Well another nasty piece of mistreatment of Yuzu is current interview with Rafael Arutyunyan. He speaks very arogantly about Yuzu. It makes me angry actually. Not nice reading - you can find it here: https://fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-we-didnt-want-just-to-win-we-wanted-to-dominate-and-im-very-glad-that-this-is-exactly-what-happened-in-beijing/.

I feel physically sick...He is nasty towards Jason as well

[Skrimblo_iced]

1 hour ago, Pammi said:

After the Men's and Women's FS in the TE there were some awful tweets form US citizens being very critical of Vincent and Karen (FS fans from outside the US were responding about how mean it was to treat your own athletes like that) - the US team could of course end up now with an Olympic Gold  so I guess they'll be getting praised to the heavens if that happens - all about the medals, not about the athletes or their own experience, and hard work they have put in. A very non-humanist perspective. 

Oh I see Evgeni Plushenko has posted in support of Kamila and Eteri today on IG....figure skating is a total mess.

look at how ppl aside from fs fans only started caring about kamila and co. because of drugs + the gold medal. i hate this mindset so much because with it ppl ignore that something terrible is going on behind the scenes, or conversely ignoring/insulting an athlete who performed at the highest capacity they could because they didn't medal--i saw quite a few disparaging comments about jason who thought he shouldn't have gone to the olys just because he doesn't have quads 
Why would you choose to overlook his raw artistry?

[Tee]

3 hours ago, SuzyQ said:

Meanwhile, In the Disney Store, Winnie the Pooh is jumping 

 

 

 

+5  1S<<

 

2 hours ago, eren said:

Happy Valentine's Day! Yuzu and everyone!!!

 

I read this as Happy Yuzu Day!