General Yuzuru Chat

[OmNom]

As someone who isn't fluent in any language but English, while I appreciate it when other nationalities learn to speak it I don't think it should be compulsory! Especially just after all the demands that competing puts on the athletes. Also the Japanese media is bad enough - I don't imagine he wants to encourage any of the others to pitch in to that extent.

 

Omg yes. Japanese media is already frustrating enough as it is. No need for double the headache when his positive energy could be channeled into something much more fruitful.

(imagine how his words might be twisted or taken out of context or worst fabricated.. urgh :hachimaki:

flashbacks of 2016 worlds collision with denis ten are howling wild in my head. remember how some very objective forum posters jumped right on the bandwagon that he was accusing ten, or how he was making a mountain of a molehill? :hachimaki: yeah..)

[Sombreuil]

Exactly - nice to have the insulation of a professional translator.

[Dori6886]

Wow, the picture wasn't very clear, but I didn't think it was such a mystery :space: But I'g glad that most agree with me that's Chiddy's hand. :goe: for everyone's detective skills!

 

When in comes to summer shows, I agree with Yata. I think he knows his limits now. I'd love to see some good 4Lz attempts and I have faith he won't overdo it.

[Yatagarasu]

Well English isn't compulsory but at the same time, it sort of is too. It's interesting how the situation evolved throughout decades but for today's communication, especially for one's professional life, it is often a must, at least at an intermediate level. So yes, a translator is nice and does offer some insulation but on the other hand, it's good to be able to communicate directly for the purposes of (dreaded but necessary) networking and work.

I think Yuzuru's probably there about when not pressed by cameras and really nothing helps as immersion so I am sorry he didn't really fully use the opportunity that living in Canada offers, as it'd have made things easier for him (I am talking about tv, music, native speakers). But I am sure he'll bring it up to needed levels in the future as I don't expect him to sit quietly and knit at home after you know what.

[mcq]

(now watch him jump 4Lz at every gala just to prove me wrong...........)

 

That may not be a bad thing? I mean it depends where the 4Lz is; it isn't any more dangerous than it would be if he were simply practicing it. What I mean is at the start he does it in a harness but after that, it's simply a matter of practice so even if he does, and we know the 4Lz was around 60%, then it's fine. The trick is not to over-do it, and here we need to believe he knows his own body and limits by now and will honor them (and I think he will).

Yeah. Plus it'd serve as more practice time to get it consistent enough for him to think about adding it.

 

I am not concern about his ability to restrain himself nowadays, tbh. But I think being away from your coaching team for too long is never good. One thing that I think of about why their peaking strategy work last season is because Yuzuru is with his coaching team the majority of the time. It is hard to monitor, calculate and deduce your peaking condition and pattern when you are away from each other (like when Yuzuru is in Toronto for 1 month then in Japan for another)like from the past seasons. Altering/modifying your training load/volume is one of the key point in peaking. Even when Yuzuru followed Brian's training regimen when he was away, there could be times it needs to be adjusted accordingly, and this is quite difficult to do when you are not monitoring your pupil yourself. (Especially since Brian seemed to imply Yuzuru did not contact him much when he was in Japan).

 

About ice shows, it would definitely affect the peaking. But not necessarily in a bad sense. What I meant by affecting peaking is that, it means his training regimen for the following period after that needs to be adjusted, taking into account that he is doing ice shows for 4 weeks. Now the only question mark will be, if the adjustment is going to be accurate and precise or not. Peaking is a tricky thing because you really need to monitor and adjust it closely (and I have a feeling that Yuzuru does not believe in peaking so much, hence his nonchalant attitude to it, contrary to Brian lol).

[nagini]

I generally think we're gonna do a lot of praying this off season and the next season.

 

Regarding athletes' English knowledge, i think it is better for them to know at least basics, as it helps with general interaction.

[meoima]

I think 9 ice shows in June are fine. Because I have heard that most staffs at Cricket Club will have holidays during that time so even if he stays in Toronto there might not be any coach to watch over him anyway.

Just hope that he will be back to Toronto in July asap. If he will do DOI, it's still ok as long as he come back to Toronto right after that in July.

I hope that he won't agree to The Ice shows. Mao alone is enough for that shows. Yuzuru please don't do it.

[nagini]

I am not concern about his ability to restrain himself nowadays, tbh. But I think being away from your coaching team for too long is never good. One thing that I think of about why their peaking strategy work last season is because Yuzuru is with his coaching team the majority of the time. It is hard to monitor, calculate and deduce your peaking condition and pattern when you are away from each other (like when Yuzuru is in Toronto for 1 month then in Japan for another)like from the past seasons. Altering/modifying your training load/volume is one of the key point in peaking. Even when Yuzuru followed Brian's training regimen when he was away, there could be times it needs to be adjusted accordingly, and this is quite difficult to do when you are not monitoring your pupil yourself. (Especially since Brian seemed to imply Yuzuru did not contact him much when he was in Japan).

 

About ice shows, it would definitely affect the peaking. But not necessarily in a bad sense. What I meant by affecting peaking is that, it means his training regimen for the following period after that needs to be adjusted, taking into account that he is doing ice shows for 4 weeks. Now the only question mark will be, if the adjustment is going to be accurate and precise or not. Peaking is a tricky thing because you really need to monitor and adjust it closely (and I have a feeling that Yuzuru does not believe in peaking so much, hence his nonchalant attitude to it, contrary to Brian lol).

 

I am glad he will have Javi there. I believe he's qualified to hit the breaks if Yuzu gets carried away.

[Yatagarasu]

(and I have a feeling that Yuzuru does not believe in peaking so much, hence his nonchalant attitude to it, contrary to Brian lol).

 

I actually don't agree with that? I think he's just more interested in averages these days, or when speaking of peaking, that plateau of athletic shape that you have to reach in order to trigger peaking. Even if you're not at your peak, but are there, then your results are still in the highest percentages, if not the ultimate highest.

 

So I think Yuzuru's mind is going something like this - peaking is tricky to time, mine is especially tricky, but if I can be at the plateau even without the peak and have such a program that I can pull it off cleanly at this point, then my 'best of average' is enough to win. It's sort of a percentage game he seems to be playing to me, in order to up his chances. Which is something I can say I understand, as he's trying to expand his chances of winning.

Basically I wouldn't say he doesn't believe in it; I'd say he's not counting on it and is trying to up his chances to win, in case it doesn't happen.

[mcq]

I actually don't agree with that? I think he's just more interested in averages these days, or when speaking of peaking, that plateau of athletic shape that you have to reach in order to trigger peaking. Even if you're not at your peak, but are there, then your results are still in the highest percentages, if not the ultimate highest.

 

So I think Yuzuru's mind is going something like this - peaking is tricky to time, mine is especially tricky, but if I can be at the plateau even without the peak and have such a program that I can pull it off cleanly at this point, then my 'best of average' is enough to win. It's sort of a percentage game he seems to be playing to me, in order to up his chances. Which is something I can say I understand, as he's trying to expand his chances of winning.

Basically I wouldn't say he doesn't believe in it; I'd say he's not counting on it and is trying to up his chances to win, in case it doesn't happen.

 

I have a different impression tbh, i think he is still trying to bargain that he is not going to be perfect all the time. At the 2015/16 season, from his interview, it does seem like he genuinely believed he could be perfect all the time and be at his best shape, thus mistakes (especially after that GPF and NHK performance) upset him a lot. Looking at how he did his practice session at that season, I also think he was still under this belief that he was invincible in a sense; I would see him jumping too much many times, skating and jumping away (possibly against his coach's advise too, I would still see it a bit at AC and SC last season, even).

 

That attitude changed last season. Even in practice he would hold himself back, spend more time talking with his coaches at the boards, refusing to jump too many quads at practice whether at gala or OP etc etc. He initially said things like aiming for perfect performances (at AC) etc etc but then slowly his attitude changes into raising his average (at NHK). At worlds and 4CC, his words was also quite a contrast from his past-self, where he said "I want to show the result of my training" instead of wanting to win perfectly, revenge (lol) and break records. At the end of the season he lamented about how important it is to be clean as often as possible (but also about how difficult it is to do that), so I think he is still in the bargaining stage of accepting peaking, just my opinion. ;)

 

ETA : Lol, also one more thing that gives me this impression. When after worlds interview Brian said that when he told Yuzuru not to jump so much and that today is his rest day, Yuzuru replied with "really?" and Brian said he had to convince him to trust him on this. These are just some of the instances that gave me the impression that Yuzu is not 100% behind Brian's peaking theory :p

[Yatagarasu]

I have a different impression tbh, i think he is still trying to bargain that he is not going to be perfect all the time. At the 2015/16 season, from his interview, it does seem like he genuinely believed he could be perfect all the time and be at his best shape, thus mistakes (especially after that GPF and NHK performance) upset him a lot. Looking at how he did his practice session at that season, I also think he was still under this belief that he was invincible in a sense; I would see him jumping too much many times, skating and jumping away (possibly against his coach's advise too, I would still see it a bit at AC and SC last season, even).

 

That attitude changed last season. Even in practice he would hold himself back, spend more time talking with his coaches at the boards, refusing to jump too many quads at practice whether at gala or OP etc etc. He initially said things like aiming for perfect performances (at AC) etc etc but then slowly his attitude changes into raising his average (at NHK). At worlds and 4CC, his words was also quite a contrast from his past-self, where he said "I want to show the result of my training" instead of wanting to win perfectly, revenge (lol) and break records. At the end of the season he lamented about how important it is to be clean as often as possible (but also about how difficult it is to do that), so I think he is still in the bargaining stage of accepting peaking, just my opinion. ;)

 

It's certainly possible, I can see what you mean :s_yes

I definitely agree with the second paragraph but my interpretation is just the above. I guess considering his studies and how he seems to be in general, and that sports science has accepted peaking long ago, I don't see him being unable (at this point, maybe when he was younger, sure) to accept how that works but fiddling with it and averages in terms of how to adjust to his convenience sort of fits better (in my head).

 

In any case, I do wish we could pick his brain about this :grin:

ETA About the rest bit, that actually doesn't surprise me that much. From some of the talk with my friends the rest bit often goes against the grain for a certain type of athletes even when they get the point in their head!

[nagini]

I have a different impression tbh, i think he is still trying to bargain that he is not going to be perfect all the time. At the 2015/16 season, from his interview, it does seem like he genuinely believed he could be perfect all the time and be at his best shape, thus mistakes (especially after that GPF and NHK performance) upset him a lot. Looking at how he did his practice session at that season, I also think he was still under this belief that he was invincible in a sense; I would see him jumping too much many times, skating and jumping away (possibly against his coach's advise too, I would still see it a bit at AC and SC last season, even).

 

That attitude changed last season. Even in practice he would hold himself back, spend more time talking with his coaches at the boards, refusing to jump too many quads at practice whether at gala or OP etc etc. He initially said things like aiming for perfect performances (at AC) etc etc but then slowly his attitude changes into raising his average (at NHK). At worlds and 4CC, his words was also quite a contrast from his past-self, where he said "I want to show the result of my training" instead of wanting to win perfectly, revenge (lol) and break records. At the end of the season he lamented about how important it is to be clean as often as possible (but also about how difficult it is to do that), so I think he is still in the bargaining stage of accepting peaking, just my opinion. ;)

 

It's certainly possible, I can see what you mean :s_yes

I definitely agree with the second paragraph but my interpretation is just the above. I guess considering his studies and how he seems to be in general, and that sports science has accepted peaking long ago, I don't see him being unable (at this point, maybe when he was younger, sure) to accept how that works but fiddling with it and averages in terms of how to adjust to his convenience sort of fits better (in my head).

 

In any case, I do wish we could pick his brain about this :grin:

ETA About the rest bit, that actually doesn't surprise me that much. From some of the talk with my friends the rest bit often goes against the grain for a certain type of athletes even when they get the point in their head!

 

I like your thoughts. Also, I like how he says here "Finally i worked hard.." and Brian says "You were calmer today.....Just trust your training."

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzX9gBeqtO1KWmNfOTJYMkNJWHc

[mcq]

It's certainly possible, I can see what you mean :s_yes

I definitely agree with the second paragraph but my interpretation is just the above. I guess considering his studies and how he seems to be in general, and that sports science has accepted peaking long ago, I don't see him being unable (at this point, maybe when he was younger, sure) to accept how that works but fiddling with it and averages in terms of how to adjust to his convenience sort of fits better (in my head).

 

In any case, I do wish we could pick his brain about this :grin:

ETA About the rest bit, that actually doesn't surprise me that much. From some of the talk with my friends the rest bit often goes against the grain for a certain type of athletes even when they get the point in their head!

 

Haha yeah, maybe does not believe is a bit extreme. But more like it is something he is not sure whether to fully throw himself into 100% (Because really, if one wants to be really strict and believe in peaking 100%, they would be very strict with the training regimen, rest/recovery period etc etc, which I think Yuzuru is not yet at that stage).

 

I think another point of view of how to look at it : he might believe in peaking, but it probably is difficult for someone like him to listen to someone telling him to not/stop practice when he feels he is in a good condition. Maybe he feels he can extend his peak more, maybe he feels training a bit more would help him peak at the right time (or as oppose to Brian's training regimen for example) rather than slowing down. Which is why his coaches repeatedly say things like "trust your training", because maybe he has yet to fully 100% trust it. :s_wink

[Mitaka]

All the talk about English made me wonder if he'll ever be able to do a full after competition press conference without a translator. Now that's something I'd like to see. As wonderful as all the people who translate his Japanese answers are, still, a lot of things get lost in translation nevertheless, so I wish he could convey his thoughts in English easily so that I could understand him without thinking that something might have gotten lost in translation.

(then I realize he might _do_the_thing_ earlier than reach such a level of fluency in English and well excuse me while I cry in the corner ok)

[nagini]

I have a different impression tbh, i think he is still trying to bargain that he is not going to be perfect all the time. At the 2015/16 season, from his interview, it does seem like he genuinely believed he could be perfect all the time and be at his best shape, thus mistakes (especially after that GPF and NHK performance) upset him a lot. Looking at how he did his practice session at that season, I also think he was still under this belief that he was invincible in a sense; I would see him jumping too much many times, skating and jumping away (possibly against his coach's advise too, I would still see it a bit at AC and SC last season, even).

 

That attitude changed last season. Even in practice he would hold himself back, spend more time talking with his coaches at the boards, refusing to jump too many quads at practice whether at gala or OP etc etc. He initially said things like aiming for perfect performances (at AC) etc etc but then slowly his attitude changes into raising his average (at NHK). At worlds and 4CC, his words was also quite a contrast from his past-self, where he said "I want to show the result of my training" instead of wanting to win perfectly, revenge (lol) and break records. At the end of the season he lamented about how important it is to be clean as often as possible (but also about how difficult it is to do that), so I think he is still in the bargaining stage of accepting peaking, just my opinion. ;)

 

It's certainly possible, I can see what you mean :s_yes

I definitely agree with the second paragraph but my interpretation is just the above. I guess considering his studies and how he seems to be in general, and that sports science has accepted peaking long ago, I don't see him being unable (at this point, maybe when he was younger, sure) to accept how that works but fiddling with it and averages in terms of how to adjust to his convenience sort of fits better (in my head).

 

In any case, I do wish we could pick his brain about this :grin:

ETA About the rest bit, that actually doesn't surprise me that much. From some of the talk with my friends the rest bit often goes against the grain for a certain type of athletes even when they get the point in their head!

 

I like your thoughts. Also, I like how he says here "Finally i worked hard.." and Brian says "You were calmer today.....Just trust your training."

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzX9gBeqtO1KWmNfOTJYMkNJWHc