General Yuzuru Chat

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I checked out that other thread but it doesn't contain many videos if at all. Plus posting access is limited to admins. Might I suggest we open up a thread in the media subforum specifically for the purpose of posting these event-related or whatever news/info related videos? Like a general one with the event or whatever quickly describes the video as the title? This way, all these precious resource don't get lost in the wave of general posts here on this thread and would be better preserved for future reference...

[SparkleSalad]

4 minutes ago, kaerb said:

(forgive me for linking my own tweet, I don't have an imgur to upload pics otherwise).

But yes, things were off from the start. I'm sure the 1Lz made things worse but I don't think it was the cause. I wonder what he was thinking at this point. Maybe just thinking too much? (looks distracted)

 

I dunno. I don't want to start anymore worrying, I'm just thinking out loud and wonder if anyone has seen him like this before under similar circumstances. Maybe it just seems worse because it's not new choreography and we know what the ideal is before he starts. I know he generally doesn't do well in the first comps.

 

ETA that was the exact moment for me, too.

 

[Yuazz]

44 minutes ago, meoima said:

Reading his interview, It's indeed a good move of Orser to stop Yuzuru from doing 4lz and 4lo for this competition. 

Knowing Yuzuru, I am afraid had Orser not been there, Yuzuru might have jumped 4lz and 4lo in the beginning and won this competition with a bang. The media hype will be much much bigger and it's no good for the long run.

He might push himself too much and it might affect his knee. 

No one wants a bad free skate, of course everyone prefers that he wins but after all this is just a senior B, this messy skate also means it delays his peak then I am all good. 

He will bring 4lz and 4Lo to CoR because that's what he is!!

Remind me of Boston.. 

He peaked too early and suffers at the end (injured). He expects himself to do better that only made him over training and then injured. I hope he always remember what he learned from that season and take care of his body. (He can last season, I hope this season too) 

 

So glad Brian in his team. Brian is a wise man and an experienced skater. He knows what his students are needed to prepare going into Olympic. 

[kaeryth]

5 minutes ago, sweetwater said:

I can help to make a list of links of clips from Japanese TV. Should we have a video thread for each competition or is it better to post such list in competition-discussion thread?

 

2 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

I checked out that other thread but it doesn't contain many videos if at all. Plus posting access is limited to admins. Might I suggest we open up a thread in the media subforum specifically for the purpose of posting these event-related or whatever news/info related videos? Like a general one with the event or whatever quickly describes the video as the title? This way, all these precious resource don't get lost in the wave of general posts here on this thread and would be better preserved for future reference...

 

Maybe you guys can start a thread in the Translations & Media subforum? And just ask for people not to comment on the thread (like I did with the senior competitions thread) so that you can organise it better (maybe per season?)

[Katt]

3 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

 

I dunno. I don't want to start anymore worrying, I'm just thinking out loud and wonder if anyone has seen him like this before under similar circumstances. Maybe it just seems worse because it's not new choreography and we know what the ideal is before he starts. I know he generally doesn't do well in the first comps.

When Yuzu make a mistake, all other things would be weaker than it should be. One thing I notice after years of watching him is, he lose his speed easily when he fail on the jump and it affect to his movement too. Of course there's many time he can shake it off and did all others elements well but there's time, he couldn't. He said in interviews he lost focus during this skate, and I think it play a big part. Its just a bad day, when many things went wrong during 4:50 mins. 

[meoima]

22 minutes ago, Katt said:

I think Brian did a great job at protecting Yuzu from media this time. He often goes all out, saying he's in perfect condition, and then he mess up the FS after great SP, people will bash him way more than this. And after everything's done, they reveal the reason behind and its too late, no one beside his fans care. And Yuzu himself took the result easier than he was in the past. Of course, he's disappointed and regretted, who's isn't but I think this might be good for him in the long run Last year after ACI, he promised he would do great/perfect performance at next event again and again and its scary. He's mature than before, and he get over a bad skate faster too. 

 

lol I think Orser didn't expect Yuzuru to mess this badly. Orser just tried to delay Yuzuru's peak and to stop him from overworking his body so it's all good. Yes it's a messy skate but:

1) it's autumn classic, just a senior B, it doesn't matter that much especially when you see the tech specialist tried to kill all the Flip it's so funny not serious as people think.

 

2) it's important to delay his peak and take it easy for now. I think the fandom should be more worried if he went all out. I am sure if Yuzuru were allowed to jump 4lz and 4Lo in this competition, he would have won. Reading his interview and we see through that. He needs challenges and challenges fire him up. Orser wants to save that challenges for later.

 

3) the goal is to peak at Olympic, not here. I am sure his health in general is very good, but his slight pain in the right knee might lead to bigger problems if he went all out with all gun blazing, all quads landed etc, it might cause strains on his body.

 

4) the media hype might go up to the other side of the galaxy if Orser allowed Yuzuru to go for all quads here, so let them die down a bit.

 

in short, it's good he wasn't allowed to go all out, and it's good because he will stay in Toronto for long for the rest of the time.

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9 分ぐらい, kaerythさんが言いました:

Maybe you guys can start a thread in the Translations & Media subforum? And just ask for people not to comment on the thread (like I did with the senior competitions thread) so that you can organise it better (maybe per season?)

 

I don't know about the organization bit, I only know how to start threads. I can open up a thread and perhaps someone with a penchant for organizing things can create a summary at the end as news about a specific event starts to taper off? Me, I'm happy with just a thread dedicated to these vids, perhaps with comments made back on other related threads if people want to make any. I can live with a bit of disorganization as long as the chaos is made out of the same kind of things. Cos it'd still be a lot easier than trying to trace back vids in here.

[yuzuuu]

Yuzu's medal looks gold here .. shinier than Javi's 

[meoima]

11 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

Remind me of Boston.. 

He peaked too early and suffers at the end (injured). He expects himself to do better that only made him over training and then injured. I hope he always remember what he learned from that season and take care of his body. (He can last season, I hope this season too) 

 

So glad Brian in his team. Brian is a wise man and an experienced skater. He knows what his students are needed to prepare going into Olympic. 

Yes I would say Orser is trying to delay Yuzuru's peak as much as possible for the Olympic. We might not see a clean back to back Yuzuru for the whole season until Olympic. Believe in him.

[WinForPooh]

15 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

 

I dunno. I don't want to start anymore worrying, I'm just thinking out loud and wonder if anyone has seen him like this before under similar circumstances. Maybe it just seems worse because it's not new choreography and we know what the ideal is before he starts. I know he generally doesn't do well in the first comps.

 

ETA that was the exact moment for me, too.

 

You know what, that's the exact moment I crossed my toes and the rest of my fingers (the regular crossing of fingers is routine for everything), too. Felt something wasn't quite right and it wasn't going to go very well. But, well, it wasn't his body. Or if it was, it's nothing that can't be fixed with the right attention, which he will get. It's in his head, and this boy is so strong. Mental strength is up there with the best (unless he's walking and he falls in which case he apparently wails in fright). This is skating, he's so strong as long as he's on the ice. He'll bounce back. I'll wager he's already calculating it.

[yuzuuu]

anyway just got back from a long day. I woke up to watch yuzu's FS this morning so I already know the results. I wonder if it's cos I didn't pray as hard as compared to for the SP... jk. but well I'm not too sad (especially after knowing the stuff) and I'm glad yuzu is taking it well. Like many of y'all here tho, I'm kinda worried about Japanese media. ugh I just hope they stay away from me. Just wanna support yuzu, the last thing I want is to be bothered and pissed by annoying media. 

[ainjxx]

just want to ask if he'll skate last for the sp for gps/gpf and olys?

[Yuazz]

14 minutes ago, meoima said:

lol I think Orser didn't expect Yuzuru to mess this badly. Orser just tried to delay Yuzuru's peak and to stop him from overworking his body so it's all good. Yes it's a messy skate but

1) it's autumn classic, just a senior B, it doesn't matter that much especially when you see the tech specialist tried to kill all the Flip it's so funny not serious atmall.

2) it's important to delay his peak and take it easy for now. I think the fandom should be more worried if he went all out. I am sure if Yuzuru were allowed to jump 4lz and 4Lo in this competition, he would have won. Reading his interview and we see through that. He needs challenges and challenges fire him up.

3) the goal is to peak at Olympic, not here. I am sure his health in general is very good, but his slight pain in the right knee might lead to bigger problems if he went all out with all gun blazing, all quads landed etc, it might cause strains on his body 

4) the media hype might go up to the other side of the galaxy if Orser allowed Yuzuru to go for all quads here, so let them die down a bit.

 

in short, it's good he wasn't allowed to go all out, and it's good because he will stay in Toronto for long for the rest of the time.

I'm with you meoima. I want yuzu to take it slowly, I mean he doesn't need to peak early and wonder how to improve when he already reach the greatest. (I wonder now how he broke that WR SP.. With 4Lo,The judges never  gave him +3 for that loop even though it was perfect and I'm salty about that).

 

Glad that yuzu in Toronto. He can focus on his training! 

 

 

[meoima]

5 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:

You know what, that's the exact moment I crossed my toes and the rest of my fingers (the regular crossing of fingers is routine for everything), too. Felt something wasn't quite right and it wasn't going to go very well. But, well, it wasn't his body. Or if it was, it's nothing that can't be fixed with the right attention, which he will get. It's in his head, and this boy is so strong. Mental strength is up there with the best (unless he's walking and he falls in which case he apparently wails in fright). This is skating, he's so strong as long as he's on the ice. He'll bounce back. I'll wager he's already calculating it.

After all these years watching FS I know what I am talking about. Orser understands Yuzuru's peak condition very well. He will manage it so Yuzuru will peak right at the Olympic.

And after all these years watching FS I am telling you, those who go out full in the early season might lose their breath soon when it's needed the most. 

The season is long and there will be many obstacles.

What matters the most will be several minutes at the Olympic, not here.

[Katt]

3 minutes ago, meoima said:

lol I think Orser didn't expect Yuzuru to mess this badly. Orser just tried to delay Yuzuru's peak and to stop him from overworking his body so it's all good. Yes it's a messy skate but:

Well, who could expect he bombed this hard ?  I didn't watch the stream, and when I went on twitter I'm shocked at all those pops. I expected him to make mistakes in FS, but not that many like this.  At the same time, I'm glad this happened at ACI. I'm sure he won't repeat this again in the season. You're right, he need challenges to fire him up, that's why I said this could be good for him in the long run. After all, its much much easier to improve from 155+ skate than 200+. He'll be fine at COR.