shanshani Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 In light of the very questionable technical calling at the 2019 Autumn Classic International, and the epidemic of inconsistent technical calling in general, I thought it would be a good idea if we all work together to capture high quality, high frame rate video of jumps at future competitions. For instance, here is the type of video I'm talking about (though note this was a jump done in practice). It was shot in 240fps and 1080p on a Samsung Galaxy S10, so required no special equipment. If we could capture this kind of video for all jumps done by top competitors in competition, we could more convincingly dispute particular bad calls as well as more accurately assess the quality of tech calling in general. By compiling evidence of bad calling, we can show that the tech calling practices now are a serious liability for the sport and more effectively pressure the ISU into changing them (for instance, by adding more cameras). In order for this to happen, we need to work together. If you are attending a competition this season and are sitting near jumps (the most common places for athletes to jump are along the corners of the rink), please consider filming them during the competition, ideally in 240fps, which most high end phone cameras these days should be able to manage. Ideally, please film at least the nearby jumps of anyone who could plausibly be a medal contender, then post them in this thread. If you have or see footage of competition jumps (for instance, on twitter), please also post it in this thread and label it with the athlete, the competition segment, the jumping pass, and the frame rate. If you are interested in filming at future competitions, please say so! The more angles, the better. Again, this requires no more specialized equipment than a high end phone. If you intend to participate, please sign up here so we know which angles are covered and which aren't. You can find the repository of tech videos here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Autumn Classic 2019 (no high frame rate available. please shoot in 240fps--slow motion--if you can, guys!) Yuzuru Hanyu FS 4Teu3S (appears to be 30fps), 4T called UR another angle (appears to be 30fps) Yuzuru Hanyu FS solo 4T (appears to be 30fps), 4T called UR Yuzuru Hanyu 3A3T (appears to be 30 fps), 3T called UR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 @wingman @yuzuangel @Yuzu_legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yuzuangel Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Hi! This is such a good idea! I really need to take some time to formulate how we would use the data from this in order to come up with some statistically sound conclusions. I'll think about it and get back on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 @shanshani should we start a google drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monchan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 ACI 2019, Yuzuru Hanyu FS, 4T (called UR) (not sure about frame rate): Here is the 4K fancam of his FS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, yuzuangel said: @shanshani should we start a google drive? Sure. Would you like to administer that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I can take some videos this coming weekend, of Kolyada, Samarin, Aliev, Rizzo, if that's ok (if there are requests of others as well, tell me). I can sit anywhere in the arena so I have to find the best angle for jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said: I can take some videos this coming weekend, of Kolyada, Samarin, Aliev, Rizzo, if that's ok (if there are requests of others as well, tell me). I can sit anywhere in the arena so I have to find the best angle for jumps. that sounds awesome! do you have access to a camera that can do slow motion? your best bet for seating is on the left hand side of the judges or on the right hand side of the judges on the opposite side. I notice those are the places skaters tend to jump most frequently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 17 hours ago, shanshani said: that sounds awesome! do you have access to a camera that can do slow motion? your best bet for seating is on the left hand side of the judges or on the right hand side of the judges on the opposite side. I notice those are the places skaters tend to jump most frequently Yes, my camera can do slow motion video too. I was thinking about the right hand side of the judges on the opposite side, but probably I'll watch videos of these skaters and have a look where they jump most of their jumps. ETA: I checked the videos and most of them jump on the left of judges side (Aliev's 4Lz, 4T-3T, Kolyada's 4T, Samarin's 4Lz + bonus Trusova's 4Lz, too) so it's better to sit there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Here's the volunteer sign up sheet. Please sign up if you intend to participate! Here's the video repository thanks @Yuzu_legend and @yuzuangel for the suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, shanshani said: Here's the volunteer sign up sheet. Please sign up if you intend to participate! Here's the video repository thanks @Yuzu_legend and @yuzuangel for the suggestions ooh thanks for starting the drive. unfortunately it's not public, can you make it public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanshani Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, yuzuangel said: ooh thanks for starting the drive. unfortunately it's not public, can you make it public? hm, thought I did. does it work now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, shanshani said: hm, thought I did. does it work now? yes, it does! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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