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Surya Bonaly is defending Cipres's coaching team on social media, as if they didn't try to cow the girl and her parents into silence . Disappointing, but more and more less surprising, given that Vanessa is supporting Morgan privately. Source of SB's comment is a screen shot sent to Judge Three, who has a private account, which is why I cannot link. J3 is a survivor and an advocate for other survivors, so i trust her. She has serious problems with how both SafeSport and USFS process and handle cases though is also very clear about how legal limitations and underfunding and understaffing make the process of reporting almost unbearable for survivors. This makes me admire those who come forward all the more, even as I understand when victims feel they cannot.

Thank you to the mods for opening the CdnNats thread!

Hello Mods, not sure if this is the right place to make a thread request or not, but I wondered if there will be a thread for Canadian Nats. Thank you!

Keegan's trademark is his hat but I don't know if there are plushie versions of it; otherwise he seems to get a kick out of Canadian animal plushies. I bet he'd love dog plushies as well! Nam might enjoy a guitar (reference to his programs) or a dog plushie. Trying to recall if he's mentioned media he like on AMAs but ofc those usually are only put on IG Stories, so vanish after a day. I'm considering buying tickets to CNats...need to make up my mind fast!

Yes. Thank you so much!

Stupid question time : can anyone link me to the page on this site that shows, season by season, the broadcasts of Yuzuru in compensations and galas, listing broadcaster? Please note that I don't mean the "Gallery" which is easy to find and contains videos of numerous skaters. I used to visit the page often, but it's been awhile and I can't seem to find it any more, despite checking what I thought were likely pages here like Translations and the competitions area.

If you go onto the Worlds thread (not the ticket market thread though) you might be able to find people willing to share an airbnb or a hotel room. I belong to one such group, though it is full up, but I imagine there are more. If you don't get a nibble rn, you should try again in the new year when people's minds will be turning towards late-season events. I imagine there are hostels there as well, but I've never used them in North America and so have no idea what the quality is or where they are located. AFAIK practice tickets and competition tickets are still available. And ofc the ticket market for both all-events and singles should become busier in the new year. Practice tickets are cheap and you might find yourself in a more decent seating location than for the competition tickets (depending on your budget for the latter). Good luck!

My memory is that it was from a Japanese broadcast, either for the event or from a news report. OIP showed Yuzu getting off ice with other skaters and a moment with Ghislain and Pooh (before or after the VC).

By chance does anyone have a link to a clip of Yuzuru jumping (maybe a 3A?) from a standstill backstage that appeared after ACI? I forget if he was wearing a costume or not in the clip.

It was actually the clips from the opening iirc, which @kaeryth posted. But thank you anyway! I enjoyed seeing this clip too!

Ah! That's it! Thank you so much!!

Does anyone happen to have the short clips of Yuzu in Origin 2.0 doing bits of choreo for the GP series promo put out by a Japanese TV channel? No need to dig, just if you have a link handy. I looked at the compilation pages but couldn't find it...

Thanks! The second link works now. However, the first link wants me to share my Google ID.

The link takes you to an image, but currently it's not working as a video for me.

Just an FYI: I'm Canadian and the ISU stream is working for me. Another friend in the area also watched it w/o any problems beyond the occasional outage. I do have a VPN in case that changes. For example, TSN will be broadcasting SCI and not streaming like CBC did for SkAm, so I'm not sure if that difference will change access for Canadians next week.

As someone who was brought back to FS by YOI, I am eternally grateful to Sayo and Kubo for their obvious admiration for fs, and for making such a _beautiful and well-written love letter to the sport_. The creators have always been extremely respectful of skaters and their biggest desire was and is to make more people love fs. And because it was a brilliant and huge hit globally it's a major reason, and let's be honest about this, many people became interested in FS (or became interested again) before the Oly season, especially outside of Japan and Russia where fs is much less popular. Numerous real skaters were delighted by the show. Honestly, I do not understand the depth of fs fan hostility towards the minority of (probably primarily younger or newer) fans who excitedly link Yuuri and Yuzu. Compared to the vicious nonsense actual long-time fs fans throw daily at Yuzu since he became a threat to their fave(s), a youngster noting that yes, Yuuri (a beloved and charming character) and Yuzu (the super popular and beloved GOAT of FS and an all-round Good Egg) share the same general body shape (and love of the 3A) is so obviously not intended as an insult. Let's not forget Yuuri also once wore Yuzu's R&J 1.0 outfit years before we first meet him as a character. Minami the fanboy of his senpai Yuuri wears it in his honor at a sectionals competition. So it's not shocking that some people take these few parallels and run with them (because fans are fans, no matter what they are into). Like any good work of fiction, the main characters in YOI may be inspired by multiple models, but become their own thing during the creative process. It's pretty clear Yuuri is inspired more by Machida and Takahashi when it comes to the type of talent he has and his temperament. Honestly, Yuzu is reflected much more in Victor's role than Yuuri's: Victor is the one celebrity skater whose presence brings the media running to a small town; he's also the uncompromising artistic skater who exerts such control over his creative process, the kind celebrity who cares about treating fans with respect, and the GOAT of his fictional fs universe who is the supreme complete men's skater, the one who has been difficult to chase for years. But even so, Victor and Yuzu also have many differences in temperament, situation (Victor gets burned out by success, Yuzu is far from burned out), and fave jumps (the 4F being Victor's signature jump). Victor's costumes reference Jeff Buttle and Johnny Weir; and physically Victor is inspired by the American actor John Cameron Mitchell. But like Yuuri, he is also a unique creation thanks to the skill of his creators to meld these influences into a unique character. IMO, Yuzu doesn't need to be protected aggressively from this well-intentioned ignorance that is def not meant to insult. At most a polite reminder to the person that the two are mostly different is all that is needed. More knowledgeable YOI fans including myself have pointed out the many differences between Yuzu and Yuuri multiple times in YOI circles, but one can only do so much in such a big and diverse fandom. Not everyone hangs out in one convenient space (again rather like fs fandom!), so such info will have to be repeated as new people encounter YOI and FS. I've never seen it as ill-intentioned, so perhaps we'd better spend negative energy elsewhere?

Honestly, I think individuals should be allowed to choose whether they prefer or not to refer to their own country symbolically or via text on a banner they carry. If some pro-Chinese government fans are saying that something as innocuous as "Hong Kong (or Taiwan) Loves Yuzu" or something similar by a few fans would somehow hurt him, that smacks of concern trolling to censor fans from Hong Kong and Taiwan. I strongly doubt that would hurt his standing in the fs world. If individual fans from Taiwan and Hong Kong don't want to display their national symbols or country names for any reason whatsoever, then that is a different issue, because that is individual fans being empowered to choose what they feel most comfortable with. Having some kind of a "global" alternative for those who don't feel a connection to their country or who feel uncomfortable about their national identity for any reason is a fantastic idea. There are some good ideas being put forward here. However, shutting down all nationalistic banners primarily because some fans who support a powerful government want to keep less powerful groups silent and invisible would be heinous. It would be like a Canadian fan being mad if someone chose a provincial or a First Nations/Métis/Inuit flag instead of the Maple Leaf. In short, censorship in order to protect the powerful and providing an alternative to empower individuals are two very different things.

V/M have just made their official retirement announcement: https://twitter.com/kattwts/status/1174179059494006784?s=20 I'm not sure if the wording they use means they will stop doing shows after the RtR tour?

Tim Koleto retweeting Origin fanart gives me life: https://twitter.com/Timkoleto/status/1174180055817302018?s=20

SheepSkeleton, the artist I commissioned to create the striking fanart for the Masquerade badge I gave out at ACI has posted the art publicly here (as always, please no re-posting the art without permission): https://sheepskeleton-art.tumblr.com/post/187713893906/yuzuru-hanyu-masquerade-a-commission-for If you click on the art, you can see it in HQ!

Part of a good thread that includes this ominous precedent on the result of a fan-inspired movement critiquing judging (with the caveat that there easily could be multiple causes): https://twitter.com/illogicalpins/status/1173504520686465024?s=20 Also this: https://twitter.com/BlueFlame4YUZU/status/1173476640736677889 Considering we don't fully know the internal politics of the ISU (people can speculate ofc, but humans are messy and simplistic conspiracy theories are often wrong), I'd really not race into anything. This would take serious, mature thought and consultation across cultures. I'm sure we don't want to make things worse for Yuzu or any other skaters.

Allegations sent to SafeSport about RC. Please be aware they contain mentions of: sexual, physical, verbal, and emotional abuse, fat shaming, self-harm and suicide. Callaghan is allegedly behind two skaters' suicides. Yet the US fed did not ban him back in the 1990s when they were first told about this vile POS: https://twitter.com/JudgeThree/status/1164325948826816517?s=20

NY Times also reporting on Adam Schmidt's lawsuit: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/sports/figure-skating-sexual-abuse.html

ABC is now reporting on incidents related to Richard Callaghan's abuse of skaters: 1) US Figure Skating allowed allegedly abusive coach Richard Callaghan to stay on the ice. He abused again: Lawsuit 2) Skater ready to air sexual abuse allegations says US Figure Skating made him an offer From the second, the offer happened at PC and was made by two high-ranking US officials :

One way to show support to Skating Survivors this season: https://twitter.com/mossyzinc/status/1159238427151388673?s=20 I will definitely be wearing them at ACI and to any other event I end up attending.