Yatagarasu

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ISU GP NHK Trophy 2017 Ladies entry list No. Name Country 1 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 2 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 3 Rika HONGO JPN 4 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 5 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 6 Soyoun PARK KOR 7 Alena LEONOVA RUS 8 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 9 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS 10 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 11 Mariah BELL USA 12 Mirai NAGASU USA

It's intense physical activity, it's bound to have an effect. A couple I know are retired ballroom dancers; they both have extensive issues with their legs. At this point, I think all parents are aware that sport at these, and similar, levels will have a kind of a drawback in some ways and of course, kids themselves can make choices, especially as they start growing up and the level of their chosen sport, and demands, start rising. I think the thing you mention, advances in various ways, is very important. From equipment, and boots and blades have progressed significantly, to methods of training and health screening, should all help alleviate the problem. Plushenko who is often mentioned as someone who is 'broken' is actually an extreme case; along with Mishin he was at the forefront of quads and we've come a long way from then, partially thanks to them so I don't think we'll have a repeat of that, if all we mentioned is followed. If it's not ...

Technically speaking, nobody really knows what the longterm impact of quads is going to be, not just when it comes to kids like Gogolev but when it comes to adults like Shoma/Nathan and even Yuzuru. Patrick spoke of this a while back, during last season, and it is a genuine concern. I think with adults, as I said back then, the ISU cannot have all the responsibility. Some of that must fall on the coaches and athletes themselves, so basically know your athlete/your own body and adjust so that their health is a priority; don't overtrain and listen to the limits of your system. Of course, correct, clean technique is always going to result in less chances for injury. When we talk about all those wonky landings, they're definitely going to have an impact on ankles/knees/hips even more so than a regular quad does, and it'll up the dangers. Of course, the kids bit is separate and well, everything Meoima said but apart from that, yes, I am sure it is going to have some effect. I don't really think it's possible to get away from that but we see this in other sports too or things like dance. Overall we're going to have to wait for quite a few years to see what happens.

I refuse to think about Sota right now that he's managed to land all that so soon after his singles because I'm going to implode most likely. I'm going to pretend nothing is happening until the Nats roll in.

*coughs* Here we go peeps! Get your choc, your coffee, tea and vodka, for next up is

Definitely. I figured it'd be her, if Brian ended up not going. I admit this is actually good news for me because Yuzuru and Tracy function great together, and I feel better knowing Brian is going to take his time to heal. Hopefully it's true. That is a very, very long trip to make so soon after his surgery, plus the stress.

It seems that Lee Barkell at CoC told some fans that Tracy is going to be with Yuzuru at NHK. We have to wait and see.

My favorite thing about that gif, apart from his face, which is why I posted it, is that last paper that gets stuck to his head. That somehow seems so apropos with what happened!

If someone had told me I'd be seeing a tally with no Javier there because he's below 9 points post his first GP I would have laughed! Ice is indeed slippery.

Tally so far Ice Dance Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS) 24 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON (FRA) 15 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR (CAN) 15 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI (USA) 15 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE (CAN) 13 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES (USA) 13 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE (USA) 11 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN (RUS) 11 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER (CAN) 9 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO (RUS) 9 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER (USA) 9

Tally so far Pairs Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK (ITA) 16 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN (CHN) 15 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV (RUS) 15 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD (CAN) 15 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT (GER) 13 Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG (CHN) 13 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV (RUS) 13 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES (FRA) 11 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV (RUS) 11 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO (USA) 11 Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT (RUS) 9 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE (ITA) 9

Crossposting some more... Tally so far Ladies Wakaba HIGUCHI (JPN) 24 Elena RADIONOVA (RUS) 20 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA (RUS) 15 Alina ZAGITOVA (RUS) 15 Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) 15 Marin HONDA (JPN) 14 Carolina KOSTNER (ITA) 13 Maria SOTSKOVA (RUS) 13 Ashley WAGNER (USA) 11 Mai MIHARA (JPN) 9 Courtney HICKS (USA) 9

Tally so far Men Mikhail KOLYADA (RUS) 26 Shoma UNO (JPN) 15 Nathan CHEN (USA) 15 Yuzuru HANYU (JPN) 13 Boyang JIN (CHN) 13 Jason BROWN (USA) 13 Max AARON (USA) 11 Alexander SAMARIN (RUS) 11 Vincent ZHOU (USA) 9 Misha GE (UZB) 9 Patrick CHAN (CAN) 9

This could really muck this up for Canada for the Team Event, they are relying on him there. He doesn't have a viable replacement. So overall, probably a good thing to skip NHK and try and recharge and rest, going forward. Not like he has to skate in a GP, there are plenty of minor events so he can use one of those for some practice.

Nothing ever dies on the internet!

Yup. We finally saw the cat in the end as well but for a while there....

When Yuzuru finally landed a clean Lutz during CoR, we got videos of all but that one so xeyra called it the Schrodinger Lutz (it's somewhere in the CoR fluff thread!)

I salute them with my tea then! They did a wonderful thing by bringing us Fred

True, and we'll blame xeyra for that one I believe. The culprit for Fred is still unidentified! Both quite fab though.

I am still betting on this one. He's done this before and I think he knows his old programs really well, and he can adjust easily if needed, so cycling through the old ones seems the most plausible to me. Of course, I would not complain if he suddenly gave us a new one at NHK. Fred is here to stay I see. I love it!

I shamelessly picked what I want to see happen

Whenever I see Zhenya's mother I have to laugh. Did she go through puberty? Seriously, Zhenya lucked out in the genetic lottery and is like her. It's simply how they're built.

Apart from the whole 3000 thing, it really must be something to work with him. He's quite obviously a perfectionist so while rewarding, it is probably exhausting as well! And I do think they changes they made there are for the better, it looks fab on some of the better fancams.