Floria Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 hace 4 minutos , sublimeskating said: i agree with this! every interview, etc. i see of yuzu, i can tell how much he truly loves skating and how much he wants to MASTER it, like he wants to do what nobody thinks is possible. he skates like an artist but investigates the technique like how a scientist dedicates his whole life to discover the unknown (i don't know how else to describe this but that's what i think he does). i think this is one of the main reasons why he decided to keep competing after olympics - because there are still many things that he wants to do in skating that he hasn't done yet. i'm not talking about winning or medals, i'm talking about achieving the impossible, like the mythical 4A that people have always said cannot be done. well, yuzu's goal is to show that it CAN be done. every year, he improves his skill and performance, almost like he wants to conquer skating. i think this is why he tries to break records every year, because he wants to push the limits of what is humanly possible and not because he wants to brag about it. he takes skating so seriously, documenting and reflecting every little detail of his training and competition experience. so haters like phil hersh who try to belittle that grand goal and dream have no right to say things like that, not when he has no idea how precious someone like yuzu is to figure skating, because yuzu's goals are so pure. i have so much respect and appreciation for people like yuzu, who've already achieved so much but are still always trying to get better. many would rather just sit back and hang on to what he's already got, but not yuzu. wow these are wonderful photos!!! where are they from??? is there video footage of this!!! I think the photos are from P&G CM, there is a link in the tweet Link to comment
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 時間前, Xenさんが言いました: My theory is that Yuzu wants mastery of figure skating, his goal is mastery, not medals. Medals simply are a measurement of how far along he is, an external validation tool to verify his internal bemchmarks and estimations. This mastery goal is in turn, what drives his will to steamroll on, why he decided he must do the 4lz, why he will do the 4A, and possibly 4-4 and even 4flip someday. To do less is not mastery. And where the limit is, is always a question. Oh he wants them medals alrite. And that PC one is a childhood goal of his, prolly long before he even knew what complete skating meant. Sochi was more a pipe dream that somehow turned into reality for him. Which makes the PC one even closer now. Like, plan A was to take both and plan B was to do good at Sochi and get all the EXP he can to kick ass at the final stage at PC. But he knew plan B has always been the more realistic one, and even though he skated as though he was putting plan A into action, there's a part of him that knew he had plan B to fall back onto, and it's a real possibilty that he would. As it turns out, though, he ended up with a chance to continue executing plan A, which means more than simply kicking ass at PC now. It means...well, it means what we're all seeing now and him emerging on top of it all, like some kind of Genghis Khan of FS or something. Which ties in to what you said to be his true goal. Underneath it all, lies this true goal* and with it, together with his experience in Sochi, he now knows it's not simply winning that second gold he wants, it's winning it the way he wants. And in his head, it's not a 50-50 thing, like the rest of the world think it is (myself included). For him, it's a done deal and he's going to make it happen. No plan B this time. Just...he may now allow himself a bit more wiggle room in how he wants to do it after this mishap. Whether or not he takes advantage of it, though, is still a complete mystery. *Ultimately, I think his true goal is a much greedier one. Like, part of it was skating a program that blends difficult tech with artistry, which, as he matures, evolved into wanting complete mastery (which is what he really needs to achieve his goal of a complete program anyway) and when he achieves that, then he achieves the other part, which is to have all the gold come raining down upon him (he's shown that he possesses this shallow side to him, as well). Basically, the guy wants *everything*. And that, I feel, is his true goal. Link to comment
micaelis Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 With all the talk about his psychological condition I think we have to go back many years to what I feel is the primary crisis of his life - the 2011 earthquake. If you were doing a bio-pic of Yuzu, no screenplay could come up with a better image of the event that shapes the future athlete's career than the image of a frightened Yuzuru Hanyu scrambling for his life off of a suddenly heaving and swaying ice rink, an event that did not have to be dreamed up by a screenwriter but merely recounted as an actual reality. Yuzu spoke many years ago about how he almost abandoned skating then because his rink was closed and he felt guilty about not helping directly with the recovery effort. I don't think any skater active today lived through such a nightmare as he did in March of 2011, not even Shoma, who almost certainly was in his hometown of Nagoya, three hundred miles distant from the epicenter, far more distant than Sendai, which was a mere eighty miles from the epicenter. Sendai was the largest city close to the epicenter and the seaside areas of the town were overrun by the tsunamis. Yuzu had to confront a devastation that had not been seen in Japan since the Kobe earthquake of 1995. The difference in 2011, though, was that the damage was far more widespread and the death count higher. I mentioned in an earlier post how the earthquake was a seminal moment in Yuzu's life, a moment when Yuzu was forced to confront the fact of his mortality. Few young people face something like that in their lives. At the age of sixteen death is a distant abstraction to most young people, even those who have had those near them die. It's just not something they see as a looming reality. Yuzu had his mortality made very real when he was scrambling off the ice, hoping he would make it out of the building before it collapsed (it didn't, but he had no way of knowing right then that it would remain standing). The subsequent experience of three nights spent in an emergency shelter reinforced that crisis for Yuzu. He did not even have the comfort of sleeping in his own bed the night following the quake. Rather it was the floor of a gymnasium that he slept on. Yuzu might very well have abandoned skating back then if he had not already started competing on the senior level and had a history of accomplishments on the junior level that had him by then a major upcoming skating talent in Japan. In the end I think he felt that he would be betraying the hopes of many around him, particularly his family and coaches and those who were already becoming die-hard Yuzu fans. I think Yuzu resolved then to justify as fully as possible the hopes of those many. He was not only not going to abandon his own dreams of future accomplishment but also the dreams of those many others who cheered him on at competitions and as his career progressed. I doubt there are many athletes out there who have had such a clarifying experience as Yuzu did, an experience that framed their careers in literally life or death terms. I doubt there are many of us who can fully understand what that experience was like (except for those of Yuzu's fans who lived similarly close to the center of that disaster). If you've ever watched those many videos on YouTube showing the tsunamis as they swept ashore that day, you wonder how any recovery was possible, seeing the totality of the devastation experienced. Almost certainly Yuzu saw them and unlike us, who are watching them distant in time and space from the events, Yuzu was there, perhaps not right on the higher ground actually observing them, but certainly seeing the resultant damage up close and personal. For me that event in Yuzu's life I have seen as the single factor that most shaped Yuzu's life thereafter. It's the event that I think enables him to achieve that almost zen-like state we see in him as he is standing mid-rink and about to start his performance. I always watch Yuzu's skating remembering his experience in the earthquake and how that experience gave him the insights that make his Seimei so meaningful, the program Yuzu wanted to express both 'the delicacy and the strength' of Japan (as Johnny Weir pointed out in one commentary). Seimei is what it is because Yuzu is not simply skating a program, he's skating his convictions. This program has its power because Yuzu fully means what he is skating. Yuzu's program is backed up by the reality of his own experience of that Japanese character and it's that personally-experienced reality that he is expressing out there on the ice. Link to comment
MrPudding Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, katonice said: And P&G takes the cake for things you do when you miss Yuzu... Waking up to great things . My repellant is working Link to comment
katonice Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 This is how I check my outfit in the mirror every morning. Joking of course, but I need to see the video of this. Link to comment
axelsandwich Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, MrPudding said: I mean.......he still has a bit of a mushroom (we've had like 91017204218401 hype materials for this CM, I have high hopes about its creative direction) Link to comment
MrPudding Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Yuzu seeing all the support Link to comment
MrPudding Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, kaerb said: I mean.......he still has a bit of a mushroom (we've had like 91017204218401 hype materials for this CM, I have high hopes about its creative direction) I really hope the CM keep up the hype.. actually footage of him laughing and having fun is enough really Link to comment
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