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Thank you for your comment. So you mean Jason has more flexibility in the legs? While Yuzuru is more flexible in the back? Cause I don't see Jason doing upright Biellmann like Yuzuru.

Chopin and LGC spins have some nice hand movements they give me so much life.

Yes, I think Jason has superior upright spins, his camel is consistent too. While his back doesn't seem to be as elastic as Yuzuru, his hips is really flexible thus the catchfoot creating a very beautiful arc. I think Yuzuru is really good at donut, intermediate position and sit spins. I guess these positions are more comfortable to Yuzuru. I have noticed his Biellmann this season has become quite well centered though. That's great improvement even when I think he should drop it for the sake of his back. I guess as long as Yuzuru's back is ok, he will keep doing Biellmann.

As entertaining as usual http://www.icenetwork.com/news/2017/05/15/229795804 i guess they can't write anything not including American skaters.

I think Yuzuru's flexibility is more on his back while Jason's flexibility is more on his hip. I remember they have said somewhere about that on FSuniverse. Jason's hip area is very flexible that's why I think his upright spin position are so good. And spiral position too. but Jason doesn't do upright Biellmann like Yuzuru so I think Yuzuru is more flexibie in the back.

What Jason does is Russian split jump. And of course he does practice it and put it in competition. Someone said Jason is more flexible in the hips. What Yuzuru did in ice show several times is just normal split jump, and Yuzuru is more flexible in the back (Oda said that once time about his back). That's why Yuzuru does full Biellmann and Jason doesn't. While Jason has some other positions in the hip area that look more natural than Yuzuru.

Exactly, they're good training mates and good rivals. They have healthy sportsmanship towards each other. But that doesn't mean they're close. In fact they might nor care and know about each other much. On the other hand, I think Yuzuru might not watch Javi at Spain national. Cause there's nothing much different, Javi didn't do more quads.

Even if Nathan doesn't do 7 quads, he can still do 6 quads with 4lz and 4F repeating and I think he already can do that in practice.

And it's kinda funny because they have never been close. After Yuzuru won Olympic he also had too packed schedule, too much noise around him. It's no surprise Yuzuru himself doesn't even talk to his previous close friends for long. Oh by that way Icenetwork has chosen their "person of the year" lol http://www.icenetwork.com/news/2017/05/15/229795804

Yeap I agree that Yuzuru will probably never say "Javier has been beaten by Nathan, Shoma, Boyang several times".

I think USFA doesn't pressure Nathan, it's more like Nathan and Rafael want it. I don't blame Nathan. It's his body his choice. But Rafael... he knows what they're doing and he knows technique but he still encourages Nathan doing that... I have not much respect for him honestly.

I'd say even at the beginning of the season, Yuzuru already knew that Nathan would do 5 quads (he mentioned something like that when they released Hope and Legacy I think). So for sure Yuzuru follows other men quite well, maybe not closely but he does watch their performances and layouts. I am not sure why Javi doesn't know Yuzuru didn't do Japan National. Or maybe he doesn't care because it's National, to most people in the skating world, they know it's not serious when it comes to world standardings so they don't care to follow.

I remember Kwan once said her back still hurt quite a lot even after she r****d. Hopefully she is much more healthier by now.

On Weibo there's a girl training at CC, and per her words (or people she has talked to), Javi and Yuzuru don't even train together most of the time, they have different schedules. Javi and Yuzuru might meet up like 1-2 times per week in a joint session and that's it. I am not surprised Yuzuru hasn't seen Javi at all and that they have had no contact to each other after WC gala.

Well this sport isn't for old bodies, sadly so, especially for single skaters. As great as Carolina and Mao were, they can't upgrade their quality compared to the current field. Carolina indeed has a long career and won Olympic medal at age 27 but she is the outliner, not to mention there's no rivals inside Italia. Yuna also had no rivals inside Korea. Javi has no one inside Spain.

I am not sure you have this kind of knowledge about LGBT bias among young Asian girls. They keep saying stuff like "Hanyu is like a beautiful wife-boy" and they harp on any chance to call him like that (the wife role in homosexual relationships). And they do not even feel ashamed when people call them out and tell them many times that Yuzuru and Javi are not close and not an item, that they're not seeing themselves that way. It's really irritating they're seeing Yuzuru as like an idol playing homosexual game like some of their idols. I can not stand fanfics about real people. That's a big limits.

It has relations. They're not close. That's pretty much Javi's words. And even Yuzuru said the same about not having close friends in CC. I have nothing against them if they're close. I am just fed up with young girls who read boy loves manga and fanfics keep throwing crazy comments like this: "No, Hanyu doesn't like girls. He likes Javi." Or "I hate Javi's girlfriend. Javi should be with Yuzuru."

You underestimate USFA very much. Even with 6 quads (with 4lz and 4F repeating) Nathan might get 90 PCS at Olympic. And Nathan for sure can land 6 quads with 2 quad Lutz and 2 quad Flip cleanly in practice. And please, Nathan has more transitions than Shoma in the SP already. I am not dismissing that judge's blindness towards Shoma's cheated jumps as not a thread. But I know karma will come for that kind of technique, soon. Whole Nagoya's group jinxing Shoma and hyping him doesn't help either. And I repeat this again and again: Yuzuru MUST upgrade his layout. That is a must. He knows that too, that's why he is upgrading it. You don't take scores in the season before Olympic seriously, because next season, the judging will be adjusted to the point you right now couldn't believe why! No one expected Adelina Sonitkova to score 149 at Sochi, right? Don't ever say Nathan won't reach this or that, you don't underestimate the power of biggest federations. Especially in Olympic when political games are played. I already repeated many times right after US National that Nathan would get the same scores at international events, no one believed me. Guess what, he got same scores at 4CC. Never take USFA lightly. Had Nathan landed all his jumps at WC, he definitely would have won silver and Shoma third.

Yes and poor his hip. But Nathan doesn't seem to care so I don't rule out the high possibility of Nathan going for 7 quads. We know he and Rafael want it right there at 2018. He can't go on like that to 2022.

Maybe I am irked Yuzuvier shippers but yeah this just shows they're not that close. I hope to see less shipping comments on Facebook after this.

Believe me, it will be Nathan and Boyang the more dangerous. Especially Boyang will have THE better career than Shoma. Yuzuru will be fine, he knows where to look at. He will have a huge upgrade of his programs lol.

Do you know the biggest issue with all of this? Because there is no legitimate critics in Figure skating. Phil Hersh only understands the number of quads, Jackie Wong does not even know what is wrong with pre-rotation, the skating lesson only gossip and do not even know what are true transitions. In this sport, when the coaches/judges/specialists/famous ex-skaters speak up, it's usually about politiking, politiking and politking. Mishin trashed Mao's 3A because he wanted to boost Liza. Mishin also occasionally trashed Yuzuru for either Liza or Gachinski. Frank Carol trashed Mao because he wanted to boost Gracie. And even Brian Orser in the early days of his coaching career, he talked with tech specialists and judges about UR and wrong edge jumps to boost Yuna Kim. And I am sure Brian knows about the technical issues of Javi (weird lutz), Shoma (pre-rotation, Flutz, weird landings), Nam, even Nathan (tilled landings)... but he never speaks up about it. The thing is, many people in the known KNOW but never speak up. Dimitri Aliev's coach KNOWS that Shoma has bad technique, he did imply that in one of his interviews but never spoke up about it publicly. Mishin implied about Shoma's bad technique several times but also never spoke up publicly. They avoid mentioning that issue, and maybe one day, their students might get benefits from the same, That's why when Patrick Chan spoke up about the quad issues when he mentions Nathan and Shoma, he was trashed rigorously even though I am sure what he meant was just the same as Fresca, Adelia and many people have spoken up. It is the kind of world where people know things but they never speak up. And people who do not know things keep speaking up and getting attention.

Let's have faith in our boy! He will be able to do that!

Well, some people already forgot that Tara Lipninsky with her childish performances won over a clean Kwan at Olympic 1998. Because she had 3Lo3Lo and Kwan not. Yuzuru clearly does not think judges will give Nathan just 80 PCS if Nathan landed 7 quads. Judges are blinded by the number of quads. And Nathan is AMERICAN. I would not be surprised if they threw out 90 PCS for Nathan clean 7 quads and no transitions. I have said this many times in GS, Fsuniverse and here: Yuzuru definitely will upgrade his layout next season.

Yuzuru will do well at Olympic. Don't worry.