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Well, actually Yuzu's video is still in 5th place at the moment. Maybe one of the other videos is geo-blocked internationally? But well, anyway. This video going viral is so awesome
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To celebrate the 4 year anniversary of the Planet properly, I did a bit of statistics escalation with Yuzu's +1M YouTube videos By the way: I also added the full table with all video links to our Wiki so that it doesn't get lost here in the general chat. I hope that is okay
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I decided to copy this list from the General Chat and store it here in the Wiki, before it gets lost in the mass of new posts. I will try to keep track and upload it regularly. Here is the full playlist on YouTube: Yuzuru Hanyu 羽生結弦: Performances With +1Mio Views SP: 13 videos (+ 1 deleted) FS: 16 videos (+2 deleted) EX: 4 videos Parisienne walkways: GPF 2013, Olympics 2014 Ballade No. 1: GPF 2014, Olympics 2018, 4CC 2020 Otonal: COR 2018 (fancam), SC 2019 (deleted), JNats 2019 Let me entertain you: JNats 2020 (private), Worlds 2021 (ARD), Worlds 2021 (Fuji) (geoblocked) Rondo Capriccioso: JNats 2021 (Fuji), JNats 2021 (FNN) (geoblocked), Olympics 2022 (OC), Olympics 2022 (private) Romeo & Juliet 1.0 (Worlds 2012): B.ESP version, NBC version Notre Dame de Paris: Worlds 2013 Romeo & Juliet 2.0: GPF 2013, Olympics 2014 Phantom of the Opera: CoC 2014 (Asahi), CoC 2014 (B.ESP), GPF 2014 Seimei: NHK 2016 (deleted), Olympics 2018 Hope & Legacy: Worlds 2017 (fancam), Worlds 2017 (CHN) Origin: SC 2019 (Asahi) (deleted), SC 2019 (ISU), GPF 2019 (geoblocked) Ten to chi to: JNats 2020 (private), JNats 2021, Olympics 2022 (private) Notte Stellata: Olympics 2018 Masquerade: FaOI 2019 Sendai Haru Yo Koi: Olympics 2022 (private) Rondo Capriccioso: 24HTV 2022 Some notes: Videos from official channels are highlighted in bold. Chances are good that these clips won't be taken down. Update (August 2022): FNN and NHK turned most of their videos private. They are not deleted yet, so it's possible to "resurrect" them, as it happened with the LMEY video on the German ARD Sportschau channel. It is interesting that there is no individual program that really strikes out. It's a relatively even distribution in time and music style. Lyrical programs seem to be just as popular among viewers as Japanese pieces or modern rock/pop numbers. And we have performances of every Olympic cycle from baby Romeo to LMEY today. It's also apparent that the videos did not went viral because of the enormous popularity of the music piece, but rather because of Yuzu's exciting and attracting way of skating.
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Another family moment from today: Mom is a bit worried about Yuzu's 3A snaking around and dad said something really smart to make her relax: "Building an arsenal of figure skating jumps is probably like solving a Rubik's Cube. To get the last layer right, you need to destroy the other ones temporarily, before all pieces fall into place." EDIT: Now that the show marathon is over, I hope that Yuzu returns home safely and healthy, gets something proper to eat again (I have the feeling that mommy Yumi has prepared a mountain of Gyoza and Pudding already), that he gives his body and soul some good rest and sneaks back to his practice cave without disturbance.
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Yes. I always have to think of Dick Button's words in that NHK documentary: "The skaters in this era don't have enough spirit to change the skating world. Bound by narrow rules and scoring, there are really no skaters who want to try new techniques." The narrator of the documentary responded that Hanyu is different, because he brought up new techniques like the quad Loop. I say, yes. Yuzu is different, but not because of stuff like the quad Loop in the first place. That jump just fits in the narrow rules of the current system and you profit to have a jump like that in your arsenal (even if the BV should be higher). I think, what Dick Button meant back in 2019 is exactly Yuzu's spirit to take REAL risks and change the landscape of figure skating in its core. Among these risks are: do continuous complex transitioning even with the hardest technical elements to maintain the balance of tech and art (now he wants to go for a 4A from steps - bonkers) go for jumps that lower his score for the sake of firsts, spectacle, diversity and art like the 4T+3A sequence or the 3A+2T -> 3Lo cluster in TenChi bring back the same music over a span of many years and remaster the choreo from season to season until perfection (as a countermovement to the new trend of throw-away programs) break with the western-centric traditions and stereotypes: use Japanese themed music, wear sparky and frilly costumes etc. go on with competing after multiple Olympic titles for the sake of longevity, maturity, growth and new challenges (as another countermovement to the trend of shorter skating careers) develop feasable measurement tools for more objective and fair scoring and improvement of training environments You can see how much influence Yuzu's skating on competitive skating really has, if you take a closer look at all the rule changes in recent years: limit the number of quad repetitions reduce the reward for backloaded jumps change the base values and GOE scales for technical elements introduce PCS caps [suggestion] to replace the short and free program by a technical and artistic program I bet that at least 70-80% of all these changes happened or may happen in the near future because of his presence and with the aim to bring him down. This is the real power and impact of Yuzuru Hanyu.
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My personal take on this issue: From the ISU's and big feds' point of view, Yuzu's thesis is like a ticking time bomb, levitating above their heads and ready to crash their beloved card house of political power plays at any given moment. I'm 100% sure that the ISU and every single official is fully aware of Yuzu's work and wishes to burn it with wildfire, if they could. They have absolutely 0 intention to implement it in the judging procedure any time soon. No matter how friendly we serve the dish. (EDIT: I'm not even sure, if the thesis is not one of the reasons, why Yuzu's scores are in free fall now and so many journalists try so desperately to discredit him. The thesis is a serious threat to many people in charge.) Remember that the IceScope was introduced in 2018, they even used it in the official broadcast during Saitama Worlds. Has the ISU shown the slightest intention to implement the technology in the scoring system? No. On the contrary, it disappeared from international broadcast entirely. You only get it on Japanese Fuji TV at the moment, if I remember correctly. To be successful, the right timing is absolutely crucial now. Yuzu has not worked 5 hard years on this thesis to leave with empty hands. I bet my salary that he has a plan in the bag himself already, a much better one than any of us could possibly think of. That's why I think that it would be smarter to wait with any sort of actions this time, at least until the Olympics. Russian media didn't even need a day to react to his thesis and I'm sure that a lot more voices will follow very soon, especially in the long drought during the upcoming off-season. I give them less than 2-3 months and the sharks in the pool will eat each other up and dig their own graves. I bet my salary on that.
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I just saw that Sportschau LMEY is still going up and about to hit 1.3M views I'd also like to share this little moment from today. Mom and I were baking bread and listening to the radio, when they played Whitney's cover of 'Greatest love of all'. She asked me to translate the English lyrics for her and with every line I got a bit more sentimental, because it reminded me of Yuzu's view on many things: I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way. Show them all the beauty they possess inside, give them a sense of pride to make it easier. Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be. Everybody searching for a hero, people need someone to look up to. I never found anyone who fulfill my needs. A lonely place to be and so I learned to depend on me. I decided long ago never to walk in anyone's shadows. If I fail, if I succeed, at least I'll live as I believe. No matter what they take from me, they can't take away my dignity. Because the greatest love of all is happening to me. I found the greatest love of all inside of me. The greatest love of all is easy to achieve: learning to love yourself, it is the greatest love of all. Especially the bold part hit hard, given the current situation However, I hope that in Kohei he has eventually found a person he can truly look up to
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Interesting bit: At first they only uploaded Nathan's free skate. None of the other winners' performances (which I found pretty disrespectful tbh, but that's another story). Then three days after Worlds, they decided to put Yuzu's SP on their YouTube channel, too. This week Nathan's video has passed 300 K views. Yuzu's SP counts 1.27 M views and has just joined the Top 5 of the channel. I think, this is a statement. Another stat: Stockholm LMEY is currently in #18 place of Yuzu's most viewed performance videos on YouTube (not counting deleted ones like Helsinki H&L with +3M views). In other words: there are 17 Yuzu performances with even more views than this one. Let that sink in. EDIT: And I just hear "Blinding Lights" from mom's room
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This is OT, but I had a very interesting talk with a colleague today, who's a sports teacher, about the different components of sport and fitness. He explained to me that the five traditional components of 'motor' fitness are the following: muscular power, speed, balance, coordination, precision and agility. Added to that there are general components of fitness: cardiorespiratory and muscular endurance, muscular strength and flexibility. If you make a list of physical and psychological abilities that you need to be successful in different sports competitions, there is a lot of overlapping with the components mentioned above: Physical abilities: speed, endurance, (muscular) power, balance, coordination, flexibility, precision, agility and timing/rhythm. Cognitive/ psychological and 'meta' abilities: mental strength, reactivity, memory and calculation capacity, strategic knowledge, experience, bravery and creativity. I had to chuckle about 'bravery' a little, but if I think about sports like ski jumping, cliff diving or various extreme sports, you definitely need it Some elements in figure skating, especially in pairs, look really scary, too. If I look at those abilities, it's remarkable that they all play an almost equally important role in figure skating and Yuzu is excelling at pretty much everything. His YOLO jumps and improvised layout changes alone cover the whole set of psychological abilities
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I just saw that LMEY has hit 1.2 million views already! About 40 K more and it will become the most viewed video of the ARD Sportschau channel that is not soccer related
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Yes, I created two playlists that I update regularly: List of Yuzu's +1M performances List of Yuzu's performances on their way to 1M By the way! Sportschau LMEY has hit 1.1 M and is still going up!
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I just added the links to the list It might make sense to pin that table somewhere? So that it doesn't get lost in the mass of posts here in the general chat.
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Yes, Oly Notte Stellata cannot stop at 1.8M. It must not. And Oly Chopin deserves more than 3M, too. We can also replay this list of performances on their way to +1M views https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx1vrjaDKcNQREvVXRSHB4l7JH0U1Zx2R Parisienne Walkways from GPF 2013 is less than 4K views away from 1M. Also, Skate Canada Origin has over 963 K views already. And we definitely need a version of GPF Seimei and Helsinki H&L with +1M again. The current distribution of +1M videos looks like this: SP: 9 videos FS: 13 videos EX: 2 videos Parisienne walkways: Olympics 2014 Ballade No. 1: GPF 2014, Olympics 2018, 4CC 2020 Otonal: COR 2018 (fancam), SC 2019, JNats 2019 Let me entertain you: JNats 2020, Worlds 2021 Romeo & Juliet 1.0 (Worlds 2012): B.ESP version, NBC version Notre Dame de Paris: Worlds 2013 Romeo & Juliet 2.0: GPF 2013, Olympics 2014 Phantom of the Opera: CoC 2014 (Asahi), CoC 2014 (B.ESP), GPF 2014 Seimei: NHK 2016 (low quality), Olympics 2018 Hope & Legacy: Worlds 2017 (fancam) Origin: SC 2019 Ten to chi to: JNats 2020 Notte Stellata: Olympics 2018 Masquerade: FaOI 2019 Sendai EDIT: It is interesting that there is no individual program that really strikes out. It's a relatively even distribution in time and music style. Lyrical programs seem to be just as popular among viewers as Japanese pieces or modern rock/pop numbers. And we have performances of every Olympic cycle from baby Romeo to LMEY today. It's also visible that the videos did not went viral because of the enormous popularity of the music piece, but rather because of Yuzu's exciting and attracting way of skating.
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This is a bit OT, but since it's linked to the topic of Yuzu's thesis, I'll post it here: The pre-rotation of jumps is often linked to that infamous "full blade" toe assist and I wonder, if Yuzu addressed that issue in his thesis as well. While pre-rotation of edge jumps happens on the take-off foot, toe jumps used to be pre-rotated on the free foot (blade "rolls off" after the toe assist). With that full blade assist Flips and Lutzes are technically no clean toe jumps anymore, but become edge jumps. During the pre-rotation the weight of the skater is transferred from the take-off foot to the free foot, so the Flip/Lutz gets morphed into a Loop jump. This is crucial, if you consider all the strict repetition rules of the current system. Skaters are only allowed to repeat one quad in the freeskate. A layout with three quad Loops would end up with the following base value: 4Lo 4Lo + REP 4Lo* Total BV 10.50 7.35 0.00 17.85 Now take a skater like Daniel Grassl, who uses a full blade assist on his 4Lz and 4F and excessive pre-rotation on all quads. At Italian Nationals 2021 his protocol looked like this: 4Lzq 4F 4Lo< Total BV 11.50 11.00 8.40 30.90 Even with one UR call his base value was almost twice as high as the base value of three clean and fully rotated quad Loops with correct technique. So these skaters not only profit from the uncalled pre-rotation, but they can also sell the same jumping technique as three different jumps and avoid repetition invalidations, which has an even bigger impact on the final score than the pre-rotation itself. That puts skaters like Yuzu at big disadvantage, because he has to master 2-3 different jumping techniques to be on par with these new morph quads. If the ISU seriously intended to introduce a bonus for skaters, who land all 6 jump types in the free, these skaters would even triple profit (they could camouflage 2-3 techniques as 6 and grab the bonus with minimum effort).
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This is great! Thank you so much for sharing! Your channel is an absolute treasure trove By the way! @Sportschau LMEY is less than 70 K views away from one million!! Go fanyus!
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Well, in a way he was affected, too. Maybe not in final placements, but many upcoming youngsters were able to put massive pressure on him with heavily pre-rotated jumps that were showered with huge GOE. It started all with Shoma's heavily pre-rotated quad Flip that notoriously received GOEs between +2 and +3 under the old system. Yuzu was really lucky that Shoma had a step out on his 3Lz in Helsinki 2017. Otherwise he would have won the competition and Yuzu would still be a one-time world champion. The difference between them in the combined total was something around two points. Next is Dmitry Aliev with his pre-rotated full blade quad Lutz. That Lutz almost received the same GOE as Boyang's textbook Lutz in Pyeongchang 2018. With a TES of 56 he was able put a very decent amount of pressure on the entire final SP group. Then we had Vincent Zhou with excessively pre-rotated and also mostly underrotated quad Lutzes and Flips. In spite of that his Lutz was ratified as the first clean quad Lutz at the Olympics. With a TES of 112 Vincent had the second highest technical freeskate score behind Nathan in Pyeongchang. Three points higher than Yuzu's Seimei. Let's not forget about Alexander Samarin, who's pre-rotated quad Lutz combination still holds the world record for the highest scored technical element in figure skating history with 5.42 GOE and 21.12 points in total (COR 2019). It superseded Yuzu's textbook 4T+1Eu+3F combination from Skate Canada that got 4.07 GOE and a total of 20.90 points. And last but not least Nathan Chen, who now managed to "stabilize" his triple Axel by pre-rotating an entire half turn and taking off backwards. This may not have influenced Yuzu's thesis, but it influences him now and his scientific research might be a key to eliminate this disadvantage. So all in all. Yes, the pass on excessive pre-rotation definitely had an influence on Yuzu's own skating career, too. EDIT: I did not even mention skaters like Stephen Gogolev, who trained together with Yuzu and was celebrated as Canada's future around 2018. He also had a pre-rotated quad Lutz. Daniel Grassl even manages to pre-rotate his quad Loop a full turn, which I thought is humanly impossible, but it is.
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Imagine what a plot twist this would be
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Update: View numbers moved up by +100 K over night to 825 K and place #11 in total! This is really great, because the Sportschau is an official channel, so we don't have to fear that the video gets deleted because of copyright issues or something. At this rate the video might break 1M soon and it would be the second "safe" version of LMEY on YouTube with so many clicks (after the JNats video).
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Yeah, but they should have read the header, too. You're waiting and waiting, but don't know what Yuzuru Hanyu is actually famous for. However, the thumbnail is nice and they don't talk trash about him. That's 100% upgrade to what we get from ISU, OC and many other media at the moment.
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Exactly! For me, the absolute highlight in Seimei are the backward crossrolls. Yuzu was forced to take them out to get from LV2 to LV3 at least, but it just made Seimei incomplete for me. That's why I was so extremely grateful that Yuzu brought them back at MOI 2019. Listening to the crowd's response, they all missed the backward crossrolls, too. It may not win points, but it won so many people's hearts!
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Yes, I experienced similar stories myself. Like, my family in Hungary was watching Worlds in Stockholm, too. They haven't followed FS since the 80's, but my aunt knew that I really like Yuzu and she was curious. My uncle is not into skating at all, but his reaction to LMEY was like: "Wow, that last jump was right on the note! Bang! And all those kneeslides and gliding moves are so cool! The fist punches in the final spin, too!" None of those features have a BV, but they seem to be the most exciting and attracting for casual viewers and that's why Yuzu is so beloved. He's not only skating for points and placements. He wants to get the people. Not only the self-declared "skating fans" but everyone and make figure skating popular outside the long-time skating community.
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Great news!! Stockholm LMEY has become the most viewed winter sport clip on German ARD's Sportschau channel on YouTube! It has surpassed 700 K views already and moved up to 14th place in total! In the current top 15 of the channel we have 12 clips about soccer, one about athletics and big-wave riding... and yeah, Yuzu! Congrats! Little background: The ARD Sportschau is the main sports broadcaster on German television, focusing on sports where German athletes used to be very successful like soccer, athletics, swimming, handball, biathlon, ski jumping, nordic combined, bobsleigh and luge. Figure skating has pretty much died with Katarina Witt's retirement. There was a little rise in interest after Aljona's and Bruno's victory in Pyeongchang, but that dropped again quite quickly. To have Yuzu with so many clicks on a German channel is something very special. Footnote: NC's freeskate has passed 200 K views. This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
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I once and for all have to say: NO. It's not western people, who are unable to understand and appreciate Japanese music pieces. We have the Swedish, the Greek, the German, the Spanish, the Italian, the Hungarian and now the Czech commentators, who are able to talk respectfully about Yuzu and TAKE the time to research information: As we can see, it is possible to comment on Yuzu's performances without mentioning NC in every second sentence. Also, the Czech fellows know that Hana wa saku is dedicated to the victims of 3-11 and also what the lyrics mean. They even mention the quad Axel as something that may be bigger than an Olympic gold and change figure skating in the future. This is all I expect from professional commentators. They don't have to praise Yuzu to the skies. It's totally enough to simply appreciate what he offers to us and not compare him to others all the time. Figure skating is not only about winning and losing after all. This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
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I can't remember Yuzu ever attempting a rippon 3A. Compared to the Russian girls the shape of his arms in the rippon variation is rather circular than stretched, so I don't think it would help him really. EDIT: The more (vertically) stretched and tight your body is, the faster you rotate. I'm actually baffled about Yuzu's incredible rotation speed, considering that his elbows are not pulled in, but angled sideways. Footnote: I really like Yuzu's circular or ring-shaped rippon and biellmann positions. It has something very natural and aesthetically pleasing for me. Btw: I can totally picture Yuzu being back to his hotel room and updating his 4A logbook, feeding in 3 new pages with descriptions, stats and footnotes about his latest 11 attempts. That would be so much like him
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Silver lining of the 20/21 season: Yuzuru Hanyu hasn't won any silver Two fun facts about WTT: In the 2017 freeskate Yuzu popped his 4S into a single, too. Is this a new tradition in the making? At every past WTT Yuzu has presented a new quad: 4Lo in the 2015 gala, 4Lz in the 2017 gala practice, ...
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