Martina

Ok, I will take in mind that you're interested. When I will have time again...

The list ended with Beijing; I had focused solely on the competitive career. If you read about that sprain too, you made it all the way to the end. Maybe sooner or later I’ll write it again, but right now I can’t.

And unfortunately, it’s not a list I saved in a file. It was something I wrote specifically here as a reply, so that text is lost forever. I would have to compile the list all over again, and as you’ll recall, it was very long 😢

I replied to this with a really long list two days ago. Now I don't see my comment anymore.

Those Olympics took place in Russia, and Russia had never won gold in the women's event. Many considered Lipnitskaya the favorite over Sotnikova, but it is always good to have multiple athletes to rely on if possible. Lipnitskaya made mistakes and took herself out of medal contention, while Sotnikova’s rapid rise provided a safety net for Russia. That is somewhat similar to what the United States did in the most recent women's competition. In the 2023–24 season, Isabeau Levito was clearly the leader of the US team and a strong medal contender for major events. While she truly deserves high PCS, her jumping technique is among the ugliest I have ever seen. Within a few months, Amber Glenn stabilized her triple Axel, and her federation threw its support behind her. In the 2024–25 season, Glenn won the Grand Prix Final with higher PCS than Chiba—something that defies logic. Glenn herself acknowledges that she does not skate as well as Chiba. She has the 3A and—barring errors—a higher Base Value (BV), but Chiba is the one who deserves higher PCS. At that Grand Prix Final, Glenn scored in PCS 1.69 points more than Chiba across the Short Program and Free Skate combined. Had their scores been swapped—which would have been far more accurate—Chiba would have won the competition. At the 2025 World Championships, in the US, with Levito and Glenn both making errors, the technical panel failed to call Liu’s under-rotations, and she emerged as the new champion. The US arrived at the Olympics with three potential title contenders. If one of them faltered, the others were there to step up. It is true that Sakamoto made a costly error—otherwise, she would have won—but when a nation has multiple medal-worthy athletes (like in Sotnikova and Lipnitskaya case), the chances of winning increase.

No, I hadn't seen them. Thanks for the links. Consider the previous seasons' medalists. The 2014–15 season saw the dominance of Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, but the following season she failed to replicate those performances, and Russia could no longer rely on her. Who came before Tuktamysheva? Russia managed to secure an Olympic gold for Adelina Sotnikova, but then she disappeared. Lipnitskaya suffered a serious injury after winning just one World silver medal. Aside from those three, medals in preceding years had gone to Asian skaters—Japan’s Mao Asada and Miki Ando, and South Korea’s Yuna Kim—as well as Italy’s Carolina Kostner. Few other skaters won anything; no one won gold, and no one claimed more than two medals across the Olympics and World Championships. On the men's side, following a period of dominance that began with Urmanov—think of the Olympic champions: Urmanov (1994), Kulik (1998), Yagudin (2002), and Plushenko (2006), with Plushenko also coming agonizingly close to gold in 2010—and a haul of countless medals, Russian skating was in a slump. Skaters like Kovtun, Kolyada, Voronov, and Gachinski—who vanished immediately after winning a World bronze—stood no real chance of winning major medals. With no contenders on the men's side, Russia needed a champion among the women, and at that moment, Medvedeva—with her ability to consistently deliver clean programs—was the perfect fit. Later, when Chen became competitive, Russia and the United States simply ceded the other nation free rein in the discipline where they themselves lacked competitiveness. They didn't get in each other's way, allowing Russia to win the women's events and the US the men's events without interference. Japan? Compared to them, it didn't matter. Korea? I believe it is the nation that treats its own athletes worse than any other. No, because each analysis takes a lot of time, and I didn't manage to look at the women as well. Real-life commitments come before any online chatter. I, too, sometimes disappear for a while because I’m too busy with other things. Just go at whatever pace works best for you. Yuzu is much happier now than he was during the last four years of his competitive career, and what he’s showing us is extraordinary. That’s why I’m glad he’s a professional now—though I will never forgive the ISU and the JSF for the suffering they caused him and all the medals they stole from him. So, if there’s a chance to talk about what happened during those years, I won’t shy away from it.

We've all been there, more or less. Whether we follow figure skating or it just happened us to see him by chance, something strikes us, we start researching, and we're hooked. You're not alone in saying you've never been a fan like this before. This is true for many of us. One of the beautiful things about this community is that we help each other find new information, share what we know, or figure out how to navigate a language we don't know and buy what we're interested in. We'll always be worried about him. He always gives his all, and the risk of injury is always present. And if it were to happen, we'd know about it afterwards, because he never spoke before, when he was still injured, when there was something he had to do and for which we had high expectations. Respect for his competitors? Yes (except when it is the rivals who forget to respect him, which has happened on a few occasions). Chen has my respect, his coach no. And a lot of judges and ISU (and JSF) officials don't have it. It takes time to learn to distinguish jumps, and you only do it if you're willing. You don't need to know the jumps to appreciate the programs and competitions. Seeing if rotations are complete is not easy, especially if the missing part is around 90°. Is it more? Is it less? Small differences in rotation can have huge effects on the score. Chen's jumps had the virtue of being stable. He almost always landed them. They weren't big, he needed a long preparation, and the exit was always a bit rushed. He put his free foot down as soon as possible because he had not a good running edge, but fundamentally his technique was correct. He simply didn't deserve high GOEs because his jumps lacked amplitude and there was a clear gap in his programs: long preparation, then jump, then immediately put the foot down to avoid losing balance, without doing anything difficult, and then another preparation for the next technical difficulty. Yuzu made more mistakes, but his programs were a continuous flow from one movement to the next, because when he didn't make mistakes, he deserved much higher marks than Chen. And the marks, if assigned correctly (even in the PCS), should have been enough to compensate for Chen doing one more quadruple. Malinin jumps like no one before him. Right now, and with these rules, he's the strongest skater. Which doesn't mean he's a complete skater, but figure skating hasn't required completeness for years. It requires quadruple, and for skaters who are more or less at the same level in quadruple, it's a good thing to have the right passport. The judging system can be improved, but there will always be problems. The one you noted is one of the most complex, but something can be done. Chopin's Ballade in 2015 received a huge number of 10.00s. The Ballade in 2020 was a better program. The judges couldn't give the Ballade a 10.50, but they could have given that program the same marks they had in 2015, and given programs skated at the same level as the 2015 Ballade a 0.25 or a 0.50 less. Instead, in 2020 they slightly lowered the marks for the Ballade and raised the marks for lower-level programs. This distorts the results. If the judges maintain the correct level difference between the programs, the judging system works. If they lower the scores of the best programs and raise the scores of mediocre programs, they make the difference in value disappear and distort the competition results. Years have passed, but I still want to say a few words to certain people. And in one case, I'm truly hoping that justice will take its course, even though it's clear that politicians are very good at evading legal trouble. I fear his perfectionism tends to affect him too much. But I also think that turning professional, distancing himself from the toxic world of competitions and meeting artists with whom he can be himself, have helped him a lot. Much of the negativity of the past has disappeared; the important thing is that he doesn't get injured again (and that the tabloids go bankrupt). - The +5/-5 system is much more easily manipulated than the +3/-3 system. - The US Federation started applying much more pressure because they needed a champion and finally had a skater who, with a little help, could win. On the other hand, the JSF, which had never liked Yuzu, found a potential medal contender in Uno. For some time after Sochi, the JSF could only count on Yuzu for the world medals, so sabotaging Yuzu meant winning nothing. Uno's arrival prompted them to think they could have a champion they liked better because he didn't think for himself as Yuzu, but did what they wanted. - The judges, even the honest ones, stopped giving Yuzu the highest score because they expected the impossible from a two-time Olympic champion. Look at the competitions. Anyone who performs a short program with 4T and 4S, one of the two in combination, and completes the program well, is praised for having performed a very difficult program. When Yuzu did it, his jumps were considered easy, everyone assumed he could do them, after all, he was a two-time Olympic champion, and since they thought his jumps were easy, they gave him marks lower than the ones he actually deserved. Yes, Beijing was important because Yuzu finally understood that for us he as a person is more important than any medal.

Over the past few years, I've read numerous books and newspaper articles, and compiled countless statistics, and what I've seen is disturbing. And the ISU does nothing, or does too little, because the people who run the federation have their own vested interests, and honest and competent judges struggle to get their work done. In 2021, as soon as I read the names of the judges who would be judging the World Championships, I complained about Salome Chigogidze's presence, stating clearly that she was one of the most biased judges around. A few months later, the ISU suspended Chigogidze for national bias, specifically for the scores awarded at that World Championships. If I knew before the competition that she was biased, how could the ISU not know? Why was she allowed to falsify that result? And why was she back judging after just a year? So when someone tells me they trust the judges' scores because they're more competent than us, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. There are many interesting statistics to be done, although unfortunately, for some time now, if you don't have a paid subscription, you can only see the top ten results. With a little imagination, however, you can get a few more answers, because the order can be by score, BV, GOE, PCS, chronological, from highest to lowest, or reversed. If you search for all skaters, you can request the result by "single skater," which will give you the best score for everyone. You can select the season, nationality, competition, short program, or freeskate... by combining the results together, you can see more than just 10 lines.

Because in 2014, the United States had no chance of reaching the podium in any of the other events, so they went all-in on ice dance. And when the United States gets involved in politics, Canada isn't strong enough to keep them at bay. This is the passage from "On Edge," a book written by American judge Jon Jackson. Note that he's talking about a novice competition, not a major competition. And note that the judge he's talking about has judged Yuzu (giving him absurdly low marks) at the 2016 GPF, 2017 4CC, and 2018 OG, among other events. I commented on this book on my blog. The comments are in Italian, the quotes from the book are in English: https://sportlandiamartina.link/2020/12/14/jon-jackson-on-edge-4/ Jenn already answered this by showing you Noriko Shirota's role. I'll just add Yutaka Higuchi's name. Higuchi was the first Japanese skater to train at the Toronot Cricket Club, in the 1970s. He met Orser when he was still very young, and they remained friends. After retiring from competition, he worked as a journalist (in this photo, you can see him on the left, interviewing Yuzu and Mao Asada at the 2012 NHK Trophy) and collaborated with the JSF, connecting Japanese skaters with foreign coaches and choreographers. Discussions took place with Shirota, but the organizational work was done by Higuchi. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Yutaka_Higuchi?uselang=it#/media/File:Hanyu_and_Asada_in_Yutaka_'_s_room_at_the_2012_NHK_Trophy.jpg Yuzu wanted to learn the 4S. I don't know when he started carefully observing other skaters, but I'm sure he had already started doing so at least in his second junior season, since he said he studied the 3A of Denis Ten and Artur Gachinski. Fernandez began training in Toronto in the 2011-12 season. That year, he competed in four competitions where Yuzu was also present: the Nebelhorn Trophy, the Rostelecom Cup, the GPF, and the WC. You can be sure he studied him carefully, because at the Rostelecom Cup, Yuzu won by just 3 hundredths, which made him realize that every extra hundredth can make a difference. If you look at the link, these are Fernandez's 4S, arranged in chronological order. Notice when he started landing the jump, and think about who his coach was. If Orser could teach Fernandez the 4S, he could teach him too. https://skatingscores.com/q/element/?show_ranks=on&underline=&season_codes=all&division_codes=sr&division_codes=jr&event_codes=intl&series_codes=all&discipline_codes=men&segment_type_codes=all&unit_country_codes=all&unit_name=javier+fernandez&element_type_codes=jump&element_code=4s%&bonus=none&sort=chron&limit=10&submit-button=Submit I think there are two reasons. Chan had not the 4S in his programs, and Yuzu wanted to watch closely a skater land the 4S. Also, probably he felt he had to maintain a certain distance, since Chan was the skater he wanted to overtake. We don't know all the details, but Nanami Abe know really well the training conditions in Sendai after the earthquake. She knew this was a huge limitation for Yuzu. And I think Yuzu is capable of showing the intensity of his feelings like no other. Abe was very important to him, but getting results was also very important. And she understood this and put Yuzu's needs first. The relationship remained excellent; Abe's husband continued to sharpen Yuzu's blades, and they later worked together on some choreography.

The +5/-5 system is much more open to manipulation than the +3/-3 system, so older results are more reliable. This doesn't mean they can't be manipulated—Sotnikova's and Davis/White's victories in Sochi are proof of that—but there's a big difference between the two systems. I'll give you an example with a 4T. From the 2010-11 to the 2014-15 season: BV 10.30, points earned with GOE +3 13.30, with GOE -3 7.30 From the 2015-16 to the 2017-18 season: BV 10.30, points earned with GOE +3 13.30, with GOE -3 6.30 (the negative GOE for quadruples was increased from -3.00 to -4.00) From the 2018-19 season: BV 9.50, points earned with GOE +5 13.75, with GOE 5 4.75 This means that the fixed part, the one the judges cannot control (unless the tachnical panel starts making rotation calls based on how much they like the skater), gives fewer points, and the part decided by the judges has grown dramatically in both positive evaluations than in the negative ones. We can make a comparison of this kind for all the jumps. The new system is more manipulable. As for the Gailhaguet episode, I've never found any newspaper articles confirming it. I believe it really happened, but we have no proof.

Generally, the most powerful federations are the Russian and the US. Another federation that's very active behind the scenes is the French one. Partly, it's a matter of political alignment: the Russian federation can count not only on the favorable votes of Russian judges, but also those of Belarusian, Georgian, and so on. And with so many judges voting a certain way, it's harder to see that the votes are odd. The US federation relies on the favorable votes of Mexican judges and, in many cases, those of Canadian and Japanese judges, depending on the skaters in question. The Italian and Israeli federations seem to operate differently depending on the competition, but they certainly seek strong allies. There may be actual agreements, but also more subtle influences. I've read judges state that when a judge is inexperienced, he tends to imitate what more experienced judges do, and from there, it's not far to being influenced. Then there's the matter of reputation. When a skater is touted as a great champion, judges tend to raise their scores. How come this didn't happen in the last part of Yuzu's career? Because the US federation, aided by the press, repeatedly emphasized that Yuzu was old, no longer in peak condition, that his routines had become repetitive... A couple of Yuzu mistakes, and the fact that he was no longer the strongest became common belief. And the Japanese federation sabotaged him in turn because its directors never liked him. After Sochi, they only had Yuzu, so they were more or less fair, but when Uno became strong, they saw an opportunity to surpass Yuzu and began sabotaging him, as we clearly saw at the National Championships. There's also another issue: if a skater has very difficult technical content, judges tend to raise his scores. Among the men, this means that those who perform 4Lz or 4F have higher GOEs and PCSs than they deserve, while the other quadruples are considered easy. Zagitova did all her jumps in the second half of her programs, Shcherbakova and Trusova had quadruples, and Kostornaya the 3A (Kihira also had 3A, but her federation never loved her, and anyway, the JSF means nothing compared to the Russian federation). Yes, we can consider ourselves lucky that Patrick wasn't Russian or American, although Yuzu might have won anyway. They hadn't yet realized Yuzu was so strong, so perhaps they wouldn't have used enough manipulation.

No, youre right. He broke the Zayak rule in that program. In the previous phrase I wrote "free skate", I forgot to repeat the detail in the other phrase. The Zayak rule works a little differently in SP and FS. It's rarer for the rule to be broken in SP, and the chances of changing a layout are lower, so at Skate Canada, Yuzu didn't realize the problem until he saw the score. With the new layout, the 4T in combination, he eliminated this risk, but I'm sure that if he hadn't changed the layout, he wouldn't have made that kind of mistake again. At Skate Canada, he should have left the 3Lz alone. He would have had a slightly negative GOE, but it would have been entered as a triple jump, and the toe loop would have been called as a 2T + COMBO. He would have gotten roughly 6 more points.

Yuzu will soon upload Prequel to YouTube and it will be available for everyone to watch for a week:

Yes, Yuzu was clear-headed; he was careful not to broke the Zayak rule. One of the many extraordinary things he did was to repeatedly modify the layout of his free programs to correct a mistake, but he only broke the Zayak rule twice: once when he was 13, in a novice competition, and once when he was 15, in his second senior competition. But both could be true. He was clear-headed in understanding how to modify the layout, but the determination to try that risky layout came from the thought, "I either do it now, or I'll give up the competition." He still didn't win because Chen's PCS were inflated (and it wouldn't have been the last time, nor the worst time), but he tried.

For some time I too struggled to understand this. YOLO = You Only Live Once. There are moments in which, if you want to achieve something, you have to take risk.