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The q rule was introduced mid-cycle before the 20/21 season if I remember correctly. Here is a full list of Yuzu's jumps that were marked as UR in this cycle. "Attempted jumps" counts every jump separately within a combo/sequence: URs 18/19 URs in 19/20 URs in 20/21 URs in 21/22 Competitions: 4 Attempted jumps: 60 UR rate: 8.3% FinGP 2018: 4Lo< 4T< COR 2018: 4T+1Eu<<+3S 3A< (fall) WC 2019: 4S< Competitions: 6 Attempted jumps: 90 UR rate: 11.1% ACI 2019: 4S< 4T< 4T<+1Eu+3S 3A+3T< NHK 2019: 4T+3T< GPF 2019: 4T+1Eu+3F< JNats 2019: 4T+1Eu+3F< 3A+3T< 3A< (fall) 4CC 2020: 4T< (fall) Competitions: 3 Attempted jumps: 45 UR rate: 2.2% WC 2021: 4S q Competitions: 1 Attempted jumps: 15 UR rate: 6.7% JNats 2021: 4A<< Footnote: I just realized that I overlooked one q at Worlds 2021 in Yuzu's FS. Sorry for that.

To be fair: I have a very soft spot for Francesco Friedrich. He's the most successful bobsleigh rider in history and this season he became the first ever to win 11 world titles and 65 world cup races in his career. What he has achieved, deserves highest appreciation. Also, Ryoyu Kobayashi was just one win away to become the first ever ski jumper in history to win the 4 Hills Grand Slam twice, which is close to a miracle. Only Sven Hannavald (2001/02), Kamil Stoch (2017/18) and Ryoyu (2018/19) managed to win the Grand Slam once in 70 editions of the tournament. He's a phenomenal jumper and a dream to watch when he's on. It's a shame that the tough competition schedule paid its toll on him on the final day, but he still managed to win the combined total with a huge margin of 24 points. I will definitely root for both of them to do well in Beijing

Yes, I root for him to succeed too. But very good news for us: Yuzu's only jump that got marked as UR in the last two seasons was this 4A attempt. Nothing else. He did not even get a q anywhere. Footnote: that was actually my biggest worry after the introduction of the q rule. That they play tricks on him with that q and pull his GOE down. But thankfully, it didn't happen.

Now that you mentioned pops, I decided to take a look: Serious pops: ACI 2018: 2T ---> 1.35 points COR 2018: 1A ---> 1.01 points WC 2019: 2S* ---> 0 points NHK 2019: 2T ---> 1.42 points GPF 2019: 1A ---> 1.27 points JNats 2019: 2Lz ---> 1.59 points WTT 2021: 1S ---> 0.31 points Minor pops: GPF 2019: 4T+2T ---> +1.90 GOE WTT 2021: 4T+2T ---> +3.04 GOE Missed combos: GPF 2019: 4T+COMBO ---> -4.75 GOE WC 2021: 3A+REP ---> -1.94 GOE Yes. Yuzu had more pops and missed combos than falls this cycle. But interestingly only one serious pop since 2020 and only two underrotated jumps: a 4T in his free at 4CC and the 4A attempt at JNats. Nothing else. All other 48 jumps were fully rotated with no fall. What is especially interesting: none of the falls happened against Nathan, while the serious pops and missed combos mostly occurred in competitions, where he competed, too. Another important statistics that I calculated: Yuzu has attempted 124 jumps with more than 3.5 rotations in this Olympic cycle and had 4 falls, which results in a fall rate on "big jumps" of 3.2%. In the last two seasons he has attempted 36 jumps with at least 3.5 revolutions and never fell. Of these 124 jumps he popped 6 (that 2Lz was a popped 3Lz) ---> rate: 4.8%

I just realized: For reference: Nathan had 12 falls since the system change (11 on jumps and one in the ChSq), 5 of them in the last two seasons. Yuzu had a total of four falls in this cycle and not a single one in 20/21 and 21/22, but it also needs to be noted that he only had four competitions in the last two seasons. It's a remarkable feat nonetheless. He can be very proud of that.

Yes, Yuzu hinted himself that for him it's worth sacrificing those 1-2 points in BV if he can create a program with the most complex transitions and exquisite choreography instead where the jumps perfectly match the music and melt seamlessly into the choreography. And in a judging system that is anywhere near fair, he should close that point gap 5x with his other qualities. The interesting thing about LGC was that his 4Lo was more consistent than the 4S+3T combo. For whatever reason that combination refused to work in 5 of 7 performances and cost him many points. It was only clean at NHK and GPF - the only two events where LGC scored above 100. I always wondered why he didn't go back to the much more consistent 4T+3T like he did at SOI last year. It matches the music rhythm much better and the base value was only 0.2 points lower than of the 4S+3T. It felt like he wanted to prove himself with all might that he's capable of combos with other quads than 4T, but that didn't work out in the SP. I'm glad that he stopped pushing for more valuable quads in the short. He has been so rocksolid in that competition segment ever since. Very interesting statistics btw: Let's hope that Yuzu can deliver a squeaky clean Rondo in Beijing. That program deserves a great performance on the biggest stage

To bring a little positivity to this general chat Yuzu's three official YT videos from JNats are only 300K views away from hitting 5 million in a span of two weeks: Fuji SP: 1.60 M FNN SP: 1.34 M Fuji FS: 1.76 M Total: 4.70 M And we haven't even added his videos on Yahoo.jp yet.

Yes to the first one. My personal opinion about these 15% is: The musical phrasing and construction of the program is an integral part of the choreography. If we don't judge that, we can skip the use of music altogether and just let the skaters jump and spin and do compulsory figures again. The connection with the music is an integral part of figure skating in its current form that sets it apart from so many other sports and hence - for me - this is the most exciting part of this sport. The concept, choreography and performance is what turns figure skating into theatre, opera, musical or concert. Yuzu's biggest strengths in this sport are: 1. very strong and universal technical foundation with high quality elements and skating skills 2. advanced program concepts and choreographies with excellent musical phrasing 3. outstanding performance skills, musical understanding and versatility in style If we skipped the judging of these 15%, two of these three strengths would not be rewarded at all. The goal must not be to remove unquantifiable aspects from the rulebook altogether, but develop a judging system where the judges are forced to score these aspects correctly. Unlike many people's opinion, these aspects CAN be judged by objective criteria. But it must be done with absolute precision and attention to detail, which requires high expertise and lots of preparation work. Hence, FS judging should be a well-paid job with proper training, seminars, public reports and round table discussions.

Yes, exactly. 3, 4 and 5 can be checked with digital tools. So the CO component is measurable to almost 50%. Skating skills are measurable to 100%, jumps and spins to 95% (only their matching with the musical phrasing is not quantifiable). The number, difficulty and quality of transitions can be measured (only the matching of the musical phrasing not). So ca. 80% can be done with machines. In interpretation, the matching of tempo, rhythm and volume/intensity can be measured, to some extent even melody. So ca. 75-80% (Timbre, tonality and vocals/ lyrics is difficult without human judging). And performance is impossible to quantify. Like you said: the human judges need to be experts for music theory and all types of performing arts (dancing, singing, acting, playing instruments etc). And they need to have a broad knowledge about all types of music pieces, genres and dance styles. That should be their no. 1 job. The rest could be done by AI and other digital tools. Of course, they should have extended knowledge about skating, jumping and spinning as well to judge the skaters' limits, i.e. what can be realized on ice and what not. PS: I wouldn't be too worried about bias if the judges' only job was to evaluate the performance, musical phrasing and logical construction of the program. That makes up less than 15% of the total score and if there's a requirement of a very precise breakdown/ reasoning, they can't do very much. Keep in mind: in the current system, the judges decide about 80-90% of the final score. They can even manipulate the base value of the technical elements like the full invalidation of Yuzu's sit spin at Nationals last year.

This is tricky, because TR is not just about the number of transitions, but rather the difficulty and quality of the transitions (skating skills) and their matching with the music (composition/ musical phrasing). You can have fewer transitions in a program that are all done with the highest quality of execution like one spiral that lasts 7-10 seconds and is executed on clean deep edges with excellent body position and matching the musical structure. That should get a higher TR score than 20 random steps and turns, that might be difficult but are executed with sloppy quality and no connection with the music. EDIT My suggestion is to change the current judging scale for program components to a cumulative system like the TES scoring, with separate scores for all aspects. Example: Instead of a range from 0.25 to 10.00 for composition (CO), the judges give scores from 0-3 for global concept and leitmotif of the program (if there is any) structure of the program (and music edit) ice coverage and logic of the skating pattern number of rinksides addressed with the skating (0 points if the skater only performs to the judges' side, and full 3 points for a performance to all four rinksides) distribution and placement of the elements on the ice surface (if all jumps are executed in the same or the judges' dead corner, 0 points) matching of the elements with the musical phrasing (if a spin starts in the middle of the chorus and ends halfway during a verse or the bridge, that's poor phrasing) matching of the transitions with the musical phrasing 7x3 points makes a max. of 21 points for composition (CO) and ca. 100 points for all components in total. In the SP you can factor this score with 0.5, so 10.5 points for composition and ca. 50 points for all 5 program components. Of course, such detailed PCS scoring is only possible with a split panel. If AI scoring was fully utilized for the scoring of jumps, spins, steps, ice coverage and musical interpretation (rhythm and volume), we would only need 3-4 judges in total who take a look at the performance and composition/ logical construction of the program and that's it.

I'm always like ??? that the judges are only willing to give 10s for PE, CO and IN, while completely holding back with SS and especially TR. If I take a look at the criteria and requirements for the different program components, CO should be BY FAR the lowest score for 95% of all programs out there. For Rondo, I would have given SS 9.75 (exit from the 4T+3T combo and the twizzle after the 3A could have more control) TR 10.00 (the total of 6 crossovers itself deserves a perfect 10.00 by default) PE 9.75 (overall sophistication and intellectual involvement improvable) CO 9.50 (musical phrasing in 1st half and ice coverage globally improvable) IN 9.75 (rhythm and tempo between 4S and 4T+3T, and during the camel spin improvable) Like Yuzu himself said, the program could still be a bit more sophisticated and polished overall, which is totally understandable as it was the very first outing in competition. It makes me very sad to see all these translators leave, too. It's just natural that not all translations are 100% accurate, but a) we're not paid professionals but amateur volunteers and b) the more different translations we have, the better will be the global understanding of the original Japanese source. We should be grateful to the work of every single translator out there. Also: If the so-called "professionals" in western media were half as accurate as our volunteer fan-translators, the world would be a better place. It's mainly them who put words into Yuzu's mouth that he never said, and many translations in official news articles are truly harmful like the recent one: "I'm the only one who has the right to win." Translations like this cause unnecessary tension, provocation and put Yuzu in a bad light, making him look totally arrogant, which he isn't at all. Footnote: Whatever happens, I will definitely continue as a Wiki author and try my best to keep his pages updated after the Olympics, too

It's 00:03 here in Germany right now, so happy new year everyone! @Umebachi Wish the "Tiger of Echigo" a happy and successful new year too! May all the cat energy support Yuzu this year

This is a bit OT, but it's happening everyone. Dimash contributed to a song for the Winter Olympics! So it really might happen that China's two almost-adoped children - Dimash and Yuzu - will finally meet in Beijing By the way: Zhenya is in the video, too.

That's exactly the reason, why I love the SP like 100x more than the FS, especially this season (minus Ten to Chi to, because that's an insane unmatched masterpiece). In the SP it's all about who can fill the 3 minutes best with actual choreography. With only 3 jumping passes and most skaters having 2 quads and a 3A, the technical content/difficulty is almost the same for everyone. So it comes down to the highest quality of execution. That's why Yuzu is the god of SPs, having set the 6 highest SP scores in history across all judging systems. (And it should be the 10 highest at least tbh). Quick update: I added Yuzu's two brand new +1 Million view videos to our list here on the Planet: I also added the Fuji version of Rondo already. It has 963K views at the moment and I expect it to go above 1M today, as it is the only official video of Rondo that is not geo-restricted.

900 Million!!! WHAT THE HELL This is 7.5 times the population number of Japan This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].

Merry Christmas everyone! I'm so happy for Yuzu that he skated well and finally got the credit he deserves for his incredible skating. My day started really badly. The bell was unexpectedly ringing and in the hurry I badly crashed my hip into the doorknob. Had to cool the bruise while Yuzu was skating, but thankfully it heals well. I still can't believe this insane mythical energy of number 4s that are gathering here one after another: Yuzu was born in 1994 and started skating at the age of 4 Rondo Capriccioso was debuted on April 4 in 1867 (checksum=22 and checksum of that is 4) Rondo is Yuzu's 4th SP in this Olympic cycle after Otonal, Ballade and LMEY Yuzu skated 4th in the 4th SP group on December 24 He will skate in the 4th FS group His starting number in SP and FS is #24 He hit all four LV4 in his SP today He has 4 crossovers in Rondo His SP score contains 4x number 1: 111.31 It will be the 4th time that he skates Ten to Chi to He aims to land the first 4A... If this is not main character stuff, I don't know what is

This artwork is so lovely EDIT From today on, you can officially add me to the group of Acolytes, Rondonians and TentoChibis

I decided to be fast as light today and already updated Yuzu's Wiki pages

Honestly? For me it doesn't really matter where he skates clean. Of course, the Olympics is special, but performance is performance and I wish him to have as many great and unique performances as possible, no matter where they are skated. I cross my toes and fingers that he will have strong skates this week too. JNats has the big advantage that the camera angles and recording quality used to be very good in the past. It's a blessing for everyone who can't watch live in the arena and I really love to rewatch all the JNats footage from last season.

I'm looking forward to his programs, choreos and costumes the most. Rondo debut would be wonderful, but I take anything. I must have rewatched JNats TenChi more than 300 times since last year. That program has a very special place in my heart. It gave me so much joy and energy to dive into it and discover new details after every replay. I really hope that we will see it again in full bloom I'm also curious about the EX program. In Sochi and Pyeongchang he used swan-themed music pieces in the gala. Maybe he'll continue that pattern and use another piece about a swan or bird? It would be beautiful for sure EDIT @jier About LMEY: Yuzu cares a lot about musical phrasing and the current music cut of LMEY has no section in the second half where a jump combination would match the phrasing and rhythm of the piece. So I don't think, that's very likely. The best-fitting upgrade - musically - would be a replacement of the 4T+3T by a 4F+3T combo. But I don't know how comfortable he is with the 4F after the injury.

Okay, but this is so funny [NEWS] I mean... yes of course. Even a Lionel Messi needs to work damn hard to get mentioned in one tweet with Yuzuru Hanyu

I share this breakdown thread about the composition of Ten to Chi to here too. I have been working on it since last week, but private problems forced me into a break. Today I finally completed the last two slides. It contains many information about the concept and construction of Ten to Chi to that that I find absolutely fascinating but couldn't include on the Wikipedia page. I'm very grateful that Yuzu, Shae and Yano made such detailed comments about the program. It's an immeasurable treasure. Maybe I'll share some smaller analyses about PE and IN too, but I need to recover first and gain new energy.

I'm a bit late to the party, but I'd like to share my birthday wishes too. Dear Yuzu, I hope that you had a wonderful birthday. Wish you a smooth recovery and all the best for the future, that you achieve your goals and find your happiness. You should know that your skating gives us a lot of joy, hope and courage and we cherish every bit of it. It's been some very tough days for me and I was not exactly in party mood, but rewatching your performances really cheered me up and comforted me today. Thank you so much for that

EDIT I would only partly agree here. It's true that both Otonal and Rondo have piano parts, but there are some big differences: Rondo is a pure piano arrangement in our case, while Otonal also has orchestra parts (timbre and set of instruments is different) Otonal doesn't have that big tempo changes, while Rondo switches from a slow-paced intro to a very quick staccato sound The melody, tonality and also the musical phrasing and structure are different for the two pieces So overall I would say that the character of Rondo and Otonal is quite different. Rondo and Ballade are closer to each other in that regard, but an overlay wouldn't work either. Remember the overlay challenge some months ago? I tried to point out exactly this. No matter what overlay music you choose - it's never a 100% match with his movements. Maybe 50-60%, but not more. It might fit the genre/ vibe... or the tempo... or rhythm... or volume/ intensity changes... but never everything at the same time, because Yuzu is SO VERY PRECISE with musical interpretation. He translates at least 6 of the 10 main musical aspects at the same time (#1-5 and #8). Always. Sometimes even more. Most skaters' choreographies are interchangeable, because - even if they hit the notes - the musical phrasing and structure of the piece are completely ignored. Every musical piece - like a poem or novel - has a dramaturgical build and comes to a conclusion. It can be linear, circular ore more complex. This structure must be reflected in both - the choice of movements and the placement of the technical elements in the choreo to maximize their musical value and impact. You can hit the notes like Yuzu did with his 4T+3T in 4CC Chopin. Or you can hit the notes AND amplify the culmination of the piece by placing the biggest technical element right on the crescendo like Yuzu did with the 4T+3T in Olympic Chopin. That one really deserved credit for "highlight distribution" as it was THE choreographic highlight of the program, leading right into the closing step sequence. That was brilliantly done. Same goes for the 3A in LMEY. It not just hits a note. It hits THE note. The most striking guitar note of the whole piece which leaves a very strong and long-lasting impact on the audience. The 3A in Masquerade has a perfect place in the choreo, too.

Sportschau LMEY has just casually reached 2.6 million views. YES SIR Also: The compilation of his Olympic routines is less than 3K views away from hitting 2.5 million!