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56 minutes ago, OonsieHui said:
Anyone know the source of said rumors?
I haven't seen anything related to WD announcement, but 15th is the day the site of Continues～with Wings～ will be updated. CWW is rumored to be TOI-like ice show. According to the leaflet (?) at the picture below three shows were planned for mid-April in Musashinomori Sports Plaza, but most likely gonna be postponed.
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4 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:
Thanks! Any idea if there's a full vid floating around somewhere? Oh and I just realized Shimizu actually meant 20 secs before the cameras were due to roll for something he and Hanyu were on together so it was his shoelaces he readjusted, not his bootlaces. Original post edited accordingly. Sorry.
You can watch full show archived at fujitv.live
That part was aired at 21:28 JST.
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10 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:
Oooh. Any idea where I can see the vid itself? The tweet quoted Shimizu as saying Hanyu found 20 seconds before he's due to skate to be plenty of time and used them to retie his bootlaces, displaying his absolute control of (internal) timing. So...where can I see this video? If there's anyone who knows or can find out, it's gotta be you, @kaerythsama-SAMA.
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Just now, WinForPooh said:
Oops.
I remember something about him advancing through the ranks too quickly and winning the necessary position to be invited to junior/senior level, but being too young to actually qualify. I must have mixed it all up.
Yeah, a bit of mixup, it happened but at national level.
9 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:Not to be rude, but what everybody is saying is that it is far too early to consider anybody as a possible podium contender in 2022, because four years is a VERY LONG TIME in ladies' figure skating. Nobody is actually looking for the queen of 2022 right now.
March 2015 - "omg, LizaT broke Mao's SP tes record! She will win in 2018 with her 3A!"
December 2015 - "we'll see Polina vs Zhenya showdown in 2018!"
March 2016 - "Marin Honda will become rival for Zhenya and other Russian girls in 2018"
April 2017 - "Zhenya has broken her WRs in N-th time. That's your Olympic champion"
This goes on and on
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26 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:
lol He was basically still a novice then, wasn't he? Just won too much and got invited to the junior circuit!
Well he wouldn't be able to compete at JGP if he'd be novice. He was 13.
14 minutes ago, cinemacoconut said:But yuzu already has something special about him...
It's easy to say now "he was special even then". The thing is, I see something special in some junior skaters (like Polina Tsurskaya - I still remember that moment and even place of the rink where she landed her 3Lz in front of me), but it isn't necessary that they will be able to carry that to their later careers.
So after watching whole Olympic cycle I became very careful with my expectations. You never know what happens with these young skaters. Look at Sota who hoped to compete with Yuzu in 2018 - he broke his leg right before Jr.Worlds he was very likely to win and still can't recover. So I think it's safer to just keep eye on many juniors who have great qualities and crown no one as "next queen" and so on.
Junior competitions are to practice their skills and get experience. It's great if they can win, but junior medals don't mean that much is you can't keep your level and develop as a senior. Lets be honest - nobody but skating fans would even know if you was Jr. World medalist.
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2 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:
Even Yuzu wouldn't rate very high if you judged him on his first junior season!
Yup, he didn't get spot at another event of series cause his place at his first was too low.
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Oksana - never competed internationally at junior level I believe
Tara - 4th and 5th at Jr.Worlds (no JGPF at that time)
Sarah - 2nd at all here Jr competitions (including Worlds and JGPF)
Shizuka - 7-8th at Jr. Worlds (no JGPF at that time), won Olympics at age of 24 (the oldest in 80+ years)
Yes, from 2010 you see JGPF winners becoming Olympics gold medalists. But so many great skaters can't carry their success to senior level.
Here is the list of JGPF medalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISU_Junior_Grand_Prix_Final
Many of these girls never ever medaled even on GP events. Like Becky Bereswill (who?) or Yukiko Fujisawa.
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23 minutes ago, freeyafanfan said:
yaas all 168 mins minus CM breaks are dedicated to yuzu?
plenty of content for the poor cactis heading into the desert
Probably only 5 or 10 minutes are on Yuzu, and all other time will be about various different Olympians.
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10 minutes ago, SydneyH said:
yep they still need the opinions of a bunch of expert but at this stage it's like a formality .
And nominated individual can decline the honor. It happened few times before.
I hope Yuzu won't decline though.
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4 minutes ago, xeyra said:
Thank you!
Now I see that Shoma definitely lowers his leg before he finished full second rotation. Upright is borderline I think? So it's not lvl 4 spin (meanwhile Yuzu got lvl 3 on his last spin in SP).
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17 minutes ago, xeyra said:
You can find the full men's FS here, though not sure if geoblocked or not:
https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/playback/figure-skating-mens-free-skating/
I get message about an error, probably this means it is geoblocked.
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35 minutes ago, monchan said:
Don't know if posted, they release new kindle ebook on his press conference talk:
Previous ebook of the same publisher has 1 star on Amazon: www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MTZTQFA
AKA "it sucks"
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Speaking of Shoma's Oly scoring and tech calls. I read one Japanese blog today and that blogger pointed out that Shoma's FCCoSp should be not counted at all or at least (as technical panel was soft on other skaters too) called FCCoSp3V instead of level 4. Apparently his camel position as well as upright position lacks 2 full rotations - and a spin with no basic position with 2 revs should receive no level and no points.
I can't find Shoma's FS video (taken down, urgh) to check this, but if it's right...
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7 minutes ago, cinemacoconut said:
I think Shoma will surpass yuzu one day but yuzu will retire at the peak of his prime. Yuzu always planned to retire after pyeongchang earlier. So i think yuzu will do a last japanese nationals at the top and from then on it will be shoma leading team japan without yuzu. I cnt see any japanese male jr on the international stage as good as yuzu and shoma right now. But maybe after Beijing there may be.
There is no way skater with such flawed technique can actually surpass Yuzuru. Period.
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To add more context the question was: "Zhenya, in one of your latest interviews you said that exhibition dance with Hanyu is impossible, that the matter is not even discussed. But you have so many Japanese fans and such things give much joy to them, so maybe you can reconsider it and do some miniature EX [number] together? Not dancing as couple but anything together"
I just can't with it
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33 minutes ago, Arwen said:
I believe they were asked about Yuzu-Zhenia collab at press-conference? If it's so, I suppose that was a polite way to point out that there will be none.
Exactly!
LMAO that person who asked that question was so ridiculous, so that was just a way to try and stop that talk. Zhenya was like "I was asked the same question at the same place at press-conference last year after WC, and I was at loss what to say exactly like I am now".
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24 minutes ago, KatjaThera said:
It's OT, so under spoiler:
Though this reminds me, on Monday, while waiting for the athletes return, one of the TV stations - NTV? - had a segment on top coaches and they discussed Brian and Eteri. I admit I don't follow Eteri or the ladies, but from the few things I've heard, I'm actually a bit 'offended' she and Brian are put in the same category ^_^;
I watched this thing yesterday as I heard they kinda compare "team Brian" and "team Eteri", but this wasn't that this program was about actually. More like talk about two foreign coaches with OG medalists vs. how is coaching done in Japan.
I got nothing new from that show tho, cause everything was based on "Team Brian" book (and editor of the book Noguchi was there too). But I think it was pretty interesting for general audience.
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Few days before Olympics started twitter (and Japanese news shows too I guess) was buzzing with 寒い、people were discussing how cold it is in Korea (and cold at opening ceremony). So my guess that note has to do something with it.
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3 minutes ago, Floria said:
I can try to download it from fujitv but I don't know which channel it is. Anyway somebody will post soon I guess.
It's from TV Asahi.
The interview is rly good, it ends with Matsuoka asking Yuzu what did he seize at Olympics, and Yuzuru's answer is "Happiness". I even teared a bit watching it ;_;
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Just now, Fay said:
Ever since his gold in 2011. Six years ago...
Hey, he was in Sochi 3.5 years ago! Sochi is Russia too.
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6 hours ago, Ende said:
and there will be free wifi inside the stadium?
No free wifi last year, I doubt anything changed.
If you really need internet on go the easiest way is to buy a SIM card. This page has pretty up-to-date information: http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Russia
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16 hours ago, Elaine said:
Fay, my friend and I will be staying in the IBIS Dynamo hotel. Do you know any supermarket nearby?
Seems that the closest supermarket to your hotel is "Перекресток" (Perekryostok) in shopping moll "Start". Here is the map - https://yandex.com/maps/-/CBU25Px-cC
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Hi, I was away from the forum for a while so idk, maybe this was discussed here before, but I've just read interview of Lakernik in "World of Figure Skating" magazine (it's official magazine of RusFed). This is backnumber (December 2017) but still pretty recent one.
So he outlines changes that way:
- mens' and pairs FS will be 4 minutes - that's for sure, because this change was accepted by previous Congress back in 2014. His reasoning is this - mens' programs are so demanding, that last 30 seconds hardly add anything to the program, because skater can barely make through it. It's more tricky with pairs, they do fine, but it'd be weird to leave only pairs FS 4.5 min, when all others skate for 4 minutes.
- base values of quads AND triple axel will be reduced (he doesn't say by how many percent), and at the same time GOE range will be made wider. from -5 to +5. Skaters would be able to earn even more points for well executed jump than they do now. At the same time poorly executed one would be penalized more.
Lakernik says they expect that points for each jump will remain more or less in the same range, but GOE changes would induce including only jumps that are ready enough. Because including jump only for receiving high base value after fall would be pointless (he emphasized that audience doesn't like performances with multiple falls and doesn't care if it was fall on really hard element). He also says that their calculations assume that TES wouldn't change much when such changes would be applied, it only would become less by scores of that one jump that will be taken away from the program. He expects everyone to take away their easiest jump, so in general programs will remain as demanding as they are now.
- he was asked if it's possible that these changes will make programs quadless like in Vancouver, because skaters won't risk getting huge GOE deductions for quads and will rely on clean triples. Lakernik answered that in his opinion this won't happen because skaters found right way to tackle quads. Another point he made is that it's possible that for high, wide, fully-rotated and landed on one foot jump start GOE would be +2 rather than 0, so in that case GOE for fall on it would be -3 rather than -5. In that case 30% penalty of base value (direct quote: "you get about 10% penalty on every step, that's the way the scale is arranged") rather that 50% would make jump still quite worthy, so each fall is different.
This leads me to idea that GOE coefficient on quads will be 1.0 as it is now. Let's say 4T base value would be 9.3. Total score for the element can range from 4.3 up to 14.3. Max is more that current 10.3+3=13.3 points. Full -5 is less than current 6.3. "-3 fall" would be the same.