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16 minutes ago, kaerb said:

Hello, im drawing a little on the wisdom of the crowd for a twitter thread I'm making - I remember there were some Chinese skaters with costume tributes to Yuzu this year and in the past (I seem to remember etude, Poto 1.0 and 2.0, maybe a PW?) and even a rollerskater from a few years ago but cannot for the life of me locate their names or clips. Does this ring a bell for anyone?  Can you DM me here or Twitter (@axelsandwich) if you have anything? Thanks guys~ 

Hi!  I made this thread some time ago on GS. Search for Yuzuru and you'll find some.  There's a link for my old compilation there too.  Some videos are probably deleted though. Don't remember about any roller skating tribute though. Hopefully you'll find what you're looking for!

3 hours ago, KatjaThera said:

 I think it's far more likely he'll continue until he concludes he physically no longer has the ability to win anymore.

I strongly agree with this. He doesn't strike me as someone that will keep competing regardless of his placements. It's either compete for gold or retire and I believe he also said it himself.   Some poster above also said that he would likely retire if he wins everything next season but I think that's dubious. He could also think "Why retire now if I'm still having so much success?  I could keep this rythm until Beijing". There's just too many variables. The chances of him going to Beijing are getting more real though.

Also, Yuzuru does wants to bring back the 4Lz but we also need to consider that Nathan has much more competition experience with his 4Lz (and 4F). And Yuzuru's  4A could be more of a gamble than anything but that depends on how his training is going and we have no idea of it.  It may sound a bit pessimistic, but introducing a new jump (I would consider new since he only attempted it once at competition If I remember correctly), specially one where he injured himself, is not an easy task in the slightest and opens the margin for errors.  He's of course capable of it and he has the gabage of training it for the 2017-2018 season so he at least has a whole off season of training it in his run throughs besides this one but it's still new scenario. 

3 hours ago, KatjaThera said:

Yuzu will only call it quits

I read it as quiNts.     This talk is messing with my head. 

  Saw this program by the junior skater who wore a replica of Masquerade costume and thought that Yuzuru would murder a song like that. Here's the whole song, it's a cover by Ciara of a Rolling Stones song.   Or maybe something by Florence and the Machine. I know the chances of it happening are negative 3298 %.   But, well, had to put it out there. 

If he doesn't come up with a new competitive program next season (even if I'm hoping for a new short) I hope that he has a new EX.  He said that he couldn't skate to Masquerade because it's too draining, but he could explore a different style in a EX without the competitive/technical constraints.  Though It's probable that he will use Crystal Memories since It's choreographed by David Wilson and has english lyrics. But It's too similar to the style of EX he has always done and I'm honestly not a big fan of it compared to the others (choreo, song etc).

Amazing (!!!) 

Does anyone have the video?

Anastasia Gubanova said Yuzuru is one of her idols here.  Based on the automatic translation from youtube she says that he's a 'god' of figure skating, both in jumping and skating itself, although naturally she doesn't aim to skate like him. She also mentioned Carolina Kostner and Ashley Wagner.   Hopefully the translation is correct.

The funniest is when she was asked about idols among russian skaters she said "Hmm... myself" LOL  

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9 minutes ago, mercedes said:

Telling of his beaitiful SS and musicality for sure.

Those skating moments at the end of every Continues shows were among my faves!

 

But I also love his jumps,he makes it look like the easiest thing in the world and there's always a reason behind it....but he was never just a jumping bean even if he's started this quads revolution (no matter what certain press care to believe ,he really didi it).

This is Boyang erasure (!!!)    

It's cute to see all of this program speculation when it's clear he'll bring back our favourite Notre Dame 2.0 next season coupled with Otonal for more 2 seasons and eventually recycle Origin for Beijing!  

Saying out loud my fears help me to cope with them.    

Honestly, I really hope he doesn't recycle anything but you never know when it comes to him.  He may want to skate Origin at the GPF because Torino  or to keep Otonal since it was a successful program scoring wise to focus more on the free skate like 2015-2016.  And there's also the matter of how his past injuries will play into upping the technical content with brand new programs.

I liked both (specially Otonal and Origin's costume is a masterpiece) but we're not sure about how many competitive seasons he'll have from now on so  I'd like to see him exploring new music and creating more signature programs.  But this is just my wish as a powerless fan. It's his call after all.  Meanwhile I'm here trying to channel "NEW PROGRAMS!" by telepathy.   

That's a lot to process here!  You really did a lot of reseach, it was great. And I think I could (maybe) understand it a bit better although these 'functions' still make my head spin.   I don't know much about MBTI, just took a test some time ago and found out I apparently fall into INTP but didn't go much further. The description sounded accurate to me though and almost wizardry , but I know that there's no scientific evidence about this thing, just think it is fun.  

I read briefly about ISFP and I think that it can be a great fit to him.  But is it accurate to evaluate people we don't know into these categories even if they never took the test themselves? I chuckled when I took the test and they suggested several celebrities that may or may not fall into the same category as mine.  I admit i'm a born skeptic, can't help it. 

Thought it was funny how they used a 'Cat' in this video.  He actually describes himself as a cat.  This is the pinnacle of evidence! Just kidding.   But I think the description at this video reminded me of him several times. 

This video is a bit overtly positive though, so I tried to find the 'weaknesses' part and among other things found this:

Overly Competitive - Can escalate small things into intense competitions, turning down long-term success in their search for glory in the moment, and are unhappy when they lose. 

But I also found that they tend to dislike long term plans. This seems quite off for someone who tried to plan all of his career already as a child. But people don't fit into these types perfectly obviously, they're more complex than that. What is your take about that? 

Thank you for the analysis!

2 hours ago, Moria Polonius said:

 

Yea, I noticed it as well. And I can't think of anything erither.

Afterwards I remembered Shoma's Loco. It's a tango though, and it was a bit polarizing since some people thought it was too dramatic. But soft/lyrical vocals is even more rare, can't think of anything else. I can understand if you're portraying a character that already exists, but even with modern music choices it's that way. 

9 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

No dissing the hip rolls! They were what first drew my attention to The Waist!  Yuzu did his pure little lamb best with those, and the story behind them is pretty funny, too. Apparently they were meant as a joke punishment to him for talking too much all the time during his choreo sessions, or something like that. 

 

I have to say that I adore the version of Change where he falls and flips off Ice-Chan. Such a Yuzu moment. 

 

Anyway, for fun how about trying imagine Masquerade-type Yuzu doing those hip rolls....there aren't enough smelling salts in the world to revive all the dead fanyus that would cause. 

 

Thanks, I didn't know about the origin of the hip rolls Lol Still, I can't with them. If they were at Masquerade I would've burt out laughing.    Most 'flirtatious' programs make me cringe,  I don't why but specially by men. It was a miracle that I loved  LGC and PW the way I did, usually I would watch once then I'm done.  I guess Yuzuru can sell me anything!   Well,  unless he comes up with a Chaplin next,..then I believe even his powers won't be enough

My favourite Change is the one at the left here, I think it was Nagoya festival, unfortunately it was deleted from youtube after the purge(s). 

Though I'm tempted to say the first version just because of the sheer atrocity of the caqui pants plus ugly oversized shirt, barely consistent 3A and the fact that he seems to be  going through it and about to die halfway through. A mess, but a lovable one. 

15 hours ago, liv said:

 

What about the original Origin from ACI? He had a few leaps in there that he took out... and be it from the front or the back entry, it's still a leap that looks similar to me.

Rewatching it the part that I can think of this one at 5:10.   But I don't think it's a big deal, choreographers do have almost their 'signature' movements sometimes, as long as it's not on most of the programs and each of them have a clear different vision then I think it's ok.  I guess let's wait until we see the full programs she comes up to see if there's a big pattern or not. 

15 hours ago, mercedes said:

I wonder if this influx of SLB choreographies is a direct result of her success with working with Yuzuru and if so is it the same for Jeffrey? like Yuzuru's fame brought her name up front maybe?Although she has worked a lot already before him so she's not exactly a newcomer.

Like others here I also feel that the reason skaters flocked to her was because of the SPs she did for Nathan.  I thought it was great choreography specially Nemesis since I'm not a big fan of the style of Caravan, but Caravan was also successful for most. Everyone wants a formula of success since they managed to find a style he can work with.  I wish he could recreate Nemesis in a few years so we could see the full potential of it.  Yuzuru's programs with her were successful also, but a lot of the credit somehow ended up going to him more than anything. Only SEIMEI choreo overall was praised to the high heavens, but his involvement also was made clear.  H&L is genius in my opinion but the choreo wasn't appreciated as much , neither was Origin.  But does anyone know if there's a possible reason why they seem to be going to Benoit?

12 hours ago, Anki said:

I might be one of the few that likes Final Time Traveller and Believe more than Requiem. Two very underappreciated Yuzu show programs in my opinion. 

That's blasphemy!    To be honest I honestly wasn't a big fan of Requiem up until Worlds 2016 like many others. Before it also wasn't as controlled as it was at Worlds, there it was light years better and one of his best performances. People also prefer Requiem because of the emotional baggage behind Boston. 

I'm also a 'Believe' defender! When he hits those overdramatic steps I ascend!   

But I can't be trusted with my initial opinion on his EXs   Even at the first sight of Notte Stelatta I somehow  thought it was empty at the Skate Canada gala practice, now I can watch it all day.  The ones I loved on first sight were Haru Yo Koi (I'm obsessed), Hana Ni Nare and White Legend.  With Masquerade I had to go through my initial denial of yet-again-kind-of-POTO but ended up one of my absolute favourites since I love some dramatic Yuzuru.  Crystal memories is fine but there's moments in it that annoy me like how there's a high note and he's just doing a forward glide. Overall not a big fan of the choreo or the song, otherwise good costume and he's gorgeous as always.    Wings Of Words is ok, hate the costume, he's gorgeous, don't like the song. Hello I Love You and Vertigo are fun and he can pull off anything,  Vertigo still is just funny with those hip rolls, god no.   LOVE 'Change' to bits!! The Justin Bieber one is funny in a nostalgic kind of way, he threw it down with that hoodie and white gloves Lol.

I never really cared much for Final Time Traveler because I found the choreography unimpressive back then but I stumbled upon this practice and it's absolutely GORGEOUS. It's the only practice for this program that I could find. Or am I just suddenly in love with this because I'm having an emotional moment at midnight?? Lol  

Now that I think about it there's not many programs from male skaters set to female vocals. Actually I can't think of any other than this and his EX 'Believe'  (the dramatic one with the orange top) off the top of my head. Can someone help me with that? I wonder why?   I'm not a good parameter though, I don't watch much male skating anyway  k   

This was probably shared already eons ago, but I don't care (!!) I'm posting again because I'm replaying this non stop. 

2 hours ago, liv said:

 

At the part near the beginning, before she goes down on her knees. Obviously, this leap is like a baby hop and nowhere near Yuzu's but the concept/attempted position is similar.

But the only part that I can think of is the one-foot axel at the Otonal step sequence, which was by Jeffrey not Shae Lynn.  Evgenia also enters backwards in hers. Or do you have a moment in Origin that reminded you of this leap by Evgenia? 

14 minutes ago, liv said:

Even in that short clip of Med's program you can see a leap similar to what was in Yuzu's program last year.... so in just one example we see similar stuff from Shae. I didnt like that. 

Which part? I didn't catch that. 

Bobrova talks about Yuzuru here at 18:30.  Apparently she mentions him among the skaters she likes to watch  but I don't speak russian so hopefully someone can make an accurate translation. 

1 hour ago, Henni147 said:

 

Not to mention her injury around the start of FaOI, when she choreographed Masquerade. I hope she has recovered from it already.

I'm not a fan of this mass production either. Just cannot imagine that she has the time, energy and creativity to do all the research work and detailed choreo as she did with Seimei back in 2015...

I do feel uneasy as well but of course if she accepted all of the offers then she does feel capable of handling all of this work.  I don't know how is her process but choreographers usually do revisions throughout the season and I guess this will be hard to manage, considering that she's working with skaters from multiple nationalities/training centers.  Her workload will be greatly increased compared to past seasons and when it's a job involving a creative process specially in the span of months it's difficult to not become repetitive. There's of course criticism of the choreographies from Daniil being repetitive for example and I wonder how much of that is not only because of lack of originality per se but because he does a ton of programs per season if you include juniors, novice etc.  

3 hours ago, SparkleSalad said:

Shae has choreographed Mariah Bell’s FS.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz16sIMjIb6UB4wpCPY4G64R5f8EraYUzIEa_U0/

 

I'm getting anxious on behalf of Shae Lynn. Just how many programs is she choreographing this season?? It seems that several skaters suddenly flocked to her and Benoit. Hopefully she doesn't burn out and can come up with creative ideas again.  On the other hand I feel that there aren't many top skaters working wih David Wilson. I remember Jason and Alexia Paganini, probably Chan Junhwan again.

7 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

Sorry about that, I'm a bit swamped this week but I'll look into it. Have you tried on another browser perhaps? Does anyone else have this issue?

 

Are the non-Google Drive embeds working for you, like this?

This non-google drive one is working just fine. It makes sense now, I didn't know some of the videos were embeded from there.  These past few weeks I've been unable to open anything from google drive at my computer and I don't know why.  I'll try to watch it on mobile until I figure out why google drive doesn't work for me. Thanks a lot!   

3 hours ago, Pammi said:

I think I have managed it now .... but to become a full member you have to have an invitation code or answer loads of questions in 120 mins - I gave up!  

Do you need to register to watch it? I'm not in China and I could watch the videos!  Maybe try VPN. 

5 hours ago, Yuzu_GOAT said:

Does anyone have a full record of all of Yuzu's performances from his entire career? I need something to do in the offseason, so I want to go back through his programs, but I lost my original file that I used to have of all of his skates, and a lot of videos have been deleted in the youtube purge.

 I found this a while ago: https://www.bilibili.com/video/av7980935?from=search&seid=4069350020737850265   It also includes ice shows. 

Bilibili is a blessing. 

is this plaque legit?  Why am I laughing so hard at this.

Even failing to pack your own gloves at ACI becomes part of a museum.

2 hours ago, faeline said:

I suck at Japanese but Chinese is perfectly fine with me... so I'm translating from a Chinese Tweet:

 

Sakada Yuuki is from the same school year as Yuzu. He has autism.

Whenever Yuzu has free time, he would gather his school mates to play with Yuuki. Whenever they have skating classes, he would also teach him how to skate. They would also go on school outings/hikings together. Both of them will call each other Yuzuru and Yuuki-kun. Sakada family sent the message to [Yuzu NEWS] and Yuzu himself said "This always makes me very happy!"

 

Pic 1> News article of Japanese for Ants

Pic 2> Yuzu and Sakada

Pic 3> Yuzu's signature to Sakada-san.

Pic 4> From Weibo - Due to the earthquake, the Sakada family moved to Kanazawa, and they lost contact after middle school. In 2013 March, Sakada's younger brother went to an ice show and asked Yuzu if he remembers Yuuki. Yuzu replies that he will not forget in this lifetime! Sakada's younger brother then gave Yuzu Sakada's message, which wrote that he gained much courage from Yuzu's actions.

 

He is seriously one of the most empathic person I've ever seen.

JPN TV did a segment on this a while ago. It was cute how the guy was cheering for him! His father made kind of a fanclub for Yuzuru. Can't find the video for my dear life though, it was on dailymotion.  

I can't watch any video, it only shows a white rectangle. All other video platforms are working fine. I downloaded Adobe flash again but it didn't work.  Does anyone know how to fix that?   Maybe the platform is with myself. Thanks!