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I think most will but to certain amount of time.... really depend on how long is the current contract, and how Yuzu goes from here. As long as he stays as the focus and maintains commercial value, I guess these brands won't leave (sad that's the reason but quite true :(((( ). I'm not too worried about this, at least in the near term future, as Yuzu already built his reputation and social status to the extent that, regardless of what he does in the future, he would always be one of the most valuable athletes in Japan and the best in FS world. Japanese people view him as some sort of spirit, rather than just an excellent skater lol. There might be some going away but some new brands might come in, especially if he decide to start the Continues series. Plus maybe the reason for some brands to leave is, he become even more popular and not affordable LOL
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WOW this FAN message video
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Now everyone just wish there were some accident during the last day of Nagoya ..... so that we could see the 27 years old Parisienne
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Hope starting from now we crybaby pro are crying for ALL and ONLY touching moments, no more sad moments
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I kinda want to translate this article into other languages so more Fanyu could see! Is this allowed?
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OMG I love this idea!!!!! SO MUCH! Personally I am a documentary fan and I feel like that documentary could always touch people from a different perspective. If we are able to produce a documentary with different angles, in a more narrative way, I think it could also help with changing the reputation of "Yuzu's crazy fans". A lot of the gossip or common image of Fanyu being crazy are from specific screenshots or moments on the social media, but that should not be the permanent image of Yuzu's fans. Also the reason of some crazy moments should be revealed, rather than only having the result presented. Many non-FS fans dislike Yuzu simply because of his so-called crazy fans, even without understanding how awesome Yuzu is as a person and skater. I do think project like this could help correcting some cliche impression on Yuzu as well, cuz I have heard so many times that people saying "I hate him because he never control his crazy fans"..... I mean I don't care people hating some fanyus, but I care about people throwing bad words on him because of that Fanyu reputation. I hope the documentary could display why and how Fanyu come to together to stand with him, how the group grows bigger and bigger in an expotential-ish way, and how the group support him while receiving LOTS of rewarding moments and gratitudes from him, and how the group became angry and crazy due to the unfair judging system and skaters who go back and forth to him. E.g, some fanyu might know the temperature problem happen in 19 world championship, and because of that, I know some Fanyu brought thermometer to 19 GPF and JN just in case things happen again LOL. In terms of connection, I think perhaps Japan and China are the largest market .... likely more potential sponsors from these two countries. I personally know some businessman (mainly in Finance) and one of them appreciate Yuzu quite a lot. But he never invest in something abstract, so we might need to have a more detailed plan before he is willing to step in. I also have some friends in film production but they are relatively young to the industry, so not very famous or experienced.
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I think it's just another Team Sirius... maybe under a different website name, like something related to gyoza or earphone
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Me as well! I have been an non-member audience for years and finally decided to join the platform and chat with all Fanyus :)) following Yuzu many years and I'm so glad to see many new Fanyu came this year and stay super supportive to Yuzu
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So in another interview (sorry I forgot which .... as I watched too many LOL), he did mentioned that he is willing to teach new skaters who are passion about FS, offering his advice to contribute to their success, but he is not going to train anyone to become another Yuzuru Hanyu (and of course no one can beat him or even approach his honor!!). My understanding is, given how much Yuzu love FS, he would be more than willing to offer his advice and experience to anyone who asks for, maybe even without any charges, but he is not going to be a "real coach" whose goal is to have their students stand on the podium. I mean, whoever want to stands on the podium probably will eliminate Yuzu as an option as well LOL
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So adding some tiny translation of his presscon here: At the very beginning he said: これから競技会というものに出るつもりはないです。僕がこれまでやってきた中で、もう競技会に対して、結果ということに対して、取るべきものは取れたなと思ってますし、そこに対する評価をもう求めなくなってしまったという気持ちもあります。それがここまで至った経緯です。 From now on, I don't have any plan to attend competitions. Among all I've done so far, I have already taken all I should take from the competition and result (aka gold medals for all competitions), and I am no longer looking for any evaluation from competitions. That's how it came to this point. Feel like Yuzu just really don't care about ISU judging his FS anymore, all he cares about is his ideal FS and how the audience that value him would like his new programs. This is great! Bye ISU.
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I hold a slightly different idea here 0.0. I think he is quite clear that he would not miss the amateur competition during the press con, but he would bring more excitement to his programs so that fanyu would still feel that intense during competition. My take away from the presscon is that, the change in rule is the biggest (if not est then still the bigger) factor that lead to this decision, though he has been thinking about turning into pro for a while. He want to perform the programs that fit his passion for figure skating, but apparently that's not what the rules required or appreciate. He also said "the rules might be adjusted again in the future, or each year", but sounds to me that he does not care anymore LOL. There is a question asking if he would miss the nervous during competition, and he said definitely not, because he will make what he is seeking for more competitive. I think he is more focusing on his heart and just get tired of playing with ISU lol. Just my 5 min take away. Again, Yuzu is always thinking and improving, so everything could be possible.
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I believe all the revenue he received before July would still have the 10% off, but after should not have. Team Sirius would definitely make sure everything belong to Yuzu goes entirely to Yuzu
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I'm a bit lost here.... what translation do we have already and what we don't? I don't want to translate something that has been done, so the Fanyu team could work more efficiently
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This is the fact for many years lol, I'm surprised many people don't know It really depends on the federation, and for Japan every amateur skater have that 10% rule. In addition, even if you earn money via photos or so, such as the Yuzu exhibition earlier this year, all the revenue would have that 10% applied. If you belong to any company, like IMG or USM, there would be a LOT MORE to be taken away.... that's what Mao experienced many years ago
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Now when I count all the gold medals for Japan from 2014 to 2022, for WC, OG and GPF only (as I think GP and FCC aren't as superior...), they got 10 gold medals and 8 of them are from Yuzu. If we don't count WC this year then all 8 medals are from Yuzu........ This man also received the worst treatment. JSF just deserves a bankruptcy :(((((( I'm so glad Yuzu is willing to express what he really feel, the sadness, thankfulness, disappointment, rather than just trying to be nice here anymore.
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SAME . As I was translating the long Japanese tweets yesterday, on the KC part that his expression turn from smile to embarrassed to sad to disappointed and finally giving up, I just recalled so many moments in the past 3 years..... I will never forgive what ISU and JSF did to him
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So Yuzu was saying Pooh is his coach (background is he always pinch the face of Pooh before the SP/FS starts, because he want to feel some touches on hand and coach might not be there to shake hands) Anchor: So what do you think Coach Pooh will say to you? Yuzu: My face is so painful....
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Yuzu To Pre: I would not do this. AND at the end <<light up the ice>>
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I was too busy watching Yuzu this morning LOL, but I'm happy to contribute!!! Is there any script that Lae or Axel team would not translate but people want to see? Just FYI my Japanese isn't that professional as well
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Oh please ignore the last paragraph, it's a draft version and it's repeated.....
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Here is the full translation, not directly words to words as I try to make sense on some sentences.... I can't promise I'm entirely correct 一般の方は今が1番スケートが上手いと思っている人が、これからも4Aに挑むという人が、現全日本王者がなぜ現役を辞めるという選択をしたのかわからないと思う。長年彼を見てきた松岡修造氏も「自分にとって負けは死も同然」というほど常に勝ちに拘り、戦略を練り、全身全霊で闘ってきた彼を知っているから驚いたろうし疑問だったと思う。彼は以前自分たちは(競技者は)ルールの枠の中で闘っていますと言っていたけれど、その枠が揺るぎないものであれば解析し戦略をたて努力の天才と言われる彼はまだそこにいたと思う。 その枠が人により大きな枠であったり、小さな枠であったり、ましてや形が変わってしまうとき彼は途方に暮れたんじゃないかな。 I think the general public might not truly understand why the person (Yuzu), who I believe is the most skillful figure skater, who talked about continue challenging 4A going forward, who stands as the top among all Japanese skaters, decided not to stay in (ISU) competitions as an amateur athlete. Even Shuzo Matsuoka, who has watched Yuzu for many years, was surprised and have questions about such decision, as he knows Yuzu as the person who feels "losing is the same as death", who has always been passion about winning, devising strategies and fighting with all his efforts. Yuzu used to say that, as competitors / athletes, we are fighting within the rule framework, and as long as the framework is solid, he would stay there as a genius making efforts on developing analysis and strategy. Yet the current framework varies by person, could be large for some and small for others, not to mention (the latest framework) even change the shape of the sport, and I think he is at a loss when this happens. 他国では盛られる国内大会も彼は全日本で解説者も説明出来ないスピンノーカンとされたこともあった。それ自体細かく見れば正しいのかもしれない。でも全員同じ基準(枠)ではジャッジされない。転倒してないジャンプに-5をつけられたり基準も例も曖昧で表記されないシリアスエラーは高得点の者だけに減点がなされるという不思議さ(申し訳ないけど彼しか適用例を見たことがありません)競技者はルールという枠を信じてその中で工夫を凝らし努力し自分の最大限の得点を目指し戦う。そのスポーツとしての醍醐味を彼は心から愛していた熱狂的に。でもどんなに解析し分析しても枠の形がゆがんでしまっているのを見たとき聡明な彼はどう思っただろう。それでも彼の1部は信じたいと思っているように見えた。でもキスクラの彼の採点に異様にかかる長い時間に笑顔→戸惑い→哀しみ→諦めの表情を何度みたことか。新ルールも彼の決断の背中を押したと思う。 In both competitions held in other countries and Japan National, even the commentators could not explain why his spin received 0 score. Those should be valid if you look at it closely. However, the judges are not judging everyone using the same standard. The standard and example are very unclear that a jump without falling could receive -5 GOE, which should be for applied serious errors, and it's mystery that only the skaters with high scores would be deducted such points. (Sorry but here I've only seen Yuzu being treated as such). Athletes believe in the frame of rules and strive with ingenuity to fight for maximum scores. Yuzu is passion about the best part of this sport. However, no matter how much he analyze, how would he think when he realize that the shape of the frame was distorted? Still, it seems that part of him want to believe (in the sport under the frame), but how many times have you seen he sitting at the K&C, turning the face from smiling to embarrassed to sorrow and (lastly) giving up, while waiting for the unusually long time to score him? I think the new rules also pushed the back of his decision. もう競技の場での評価を自分は求めないと。あれだけ競技の場で様々な個性と戦うことを楽しみ、どんな評価にもリベンジして挑戦してきた彼が、もう自分はここに求めないと言った。一般の方には不思議だと思われるかもしれないけれど、彼を見てきた者はここまでよく頑張ったと言えるし多分スケーターたちもわかっている。記者やカメラマン、現場で彼を見てきた皆さんも言葉にしなくてもわかっていたのかな思う。その優しさが記者会見の紙面に沢山の溢れていた。 朝から長文失礼しました。 He himself has to seek for evaluation in the competition. He enjoyed fighting with various personalities in competitions, revenging and challenging any evaluation, but now he said he would not ask here anymore. Many people might find (his decision) very surprising, but those who have seen him (for a while) would know how hard he has tried (to fight for the rule) so far, and most of the skaters might know as well. I wonder if the reporters, cameramen, and anyone who present at the presscon and saw him, might sense and understand his circumstance without words. (Hence) the kindness was overflowing on the press conference. He enjoyed fighting various personalities in the competition and revenged and challenged any evaluation, but he said he wouldn't ask here anymore. It may seem strange to the general public, but those who have seen him can say that he has worked so hard, and maybe the skaters know. I wonder if reporters, cameramen, and everyone who saw him on the scene knew it without words. The kindness was overflowing on the press conference. Excuse me for a long sentence from the morning.
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My friend force me to look at the assignment..... so Shoma is taking Yuzu's path to do SC and NHK..... hmmmmmm, and ilia for Espoo. This is a ~7000 court, so to fill enough audience, I suspect ISU will use 4A as marketing strategy
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Nope, do not care too much as well..... I will sit here and wait for people to feed me that, if anyone want to do that
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No I agree, that's my understanding of the original posts. At the end it's saying the audience, cameramen in the hall on 7/19, probably already sense what Yuzu want to tell and are aware of what he is referring to, which could partly contribute to all those kinds word to him after the presscon, even from some medias that are not that friendly to him earlier.
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Okay so for this tweet, I quickly translate half of it before I need to head to work LOL. Will do the remaining if no one else finish that before I come back tonight: 一般の方は今が1番スケートが上手いと思っている人が、これからも4Aに挑むという人が、現全日本王者がなぜ現役を辞めるという選択をしたのかわからないと思う。長年彼を見てきた松岡修造氏も「自分にとって負けは死も同然」というほど常に勝ちに拘り、戦略を練り、全身全霊で闘ってきた彼を知っているから驚いたろうし疑問だったと思う。彼は以前自分たちは(競技者は)ルールの枠の中で闘っていますと言っていたけれど、その枠が揺るぎないものであれば解析し戦略をたて努力の天才と言われる彼はまだそこにいたと思う。 その枠が人により大きな枠であったり、小さな枠であったり、ましてや形が変わってしまうとき彼は途方に暮れたんじゃないかな。 I think the general public might not truly understand why the person (Yuzu), who I believe is the most skillful figure skater, who talked about continue challenging 4A going forward, who stands as the top among all Japanese skaters, decided not to stay in (ISU) competitions as an amateur athlete. Even Shuzo Matsuoka, who has watched Yuzu for many years, was surprised and have questions about such decision, as he knows Yuzu as the person who feels "losing is the same as death", who has always been passion about winning, devising strategies and fighting with all his efforts. Yuzu used to say that, as competitors / athletes, we are fighting within the rule framework, and as long as the framework is solid, he would stay there as a genius making efforts on developing analysis and strategy. Yet the current framework varies by person, could be large for some and small for others, not to mention (the latest framework) even change the shape of the sport, and I think he is at a loss when this happens.