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Honestly I don't know how to feel about him recycling last years programs. I liked both his SP and FS but I feel like the long was more justified in repeating than the SP. Otanal already has that world record score plus many of his naysayers as well as well as some of his fans would rather see him do new programs as we don't know how much longer he'll be skating.  I also don't think it will do him any favors when it comes to the judges scrutiny of him. With everyone else seemly having new programs but him.   I also understand that with his injuries last season he did not get to skate the programs like he wanted to especially the FS. The only way he can made Otanal better since it's already a world record program is with upgraded tech content. Which worries me.  Over all I'm a bit disappointed I was hoping for at least one new program.

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3 minutes ago, piglet said:

 

Agreed - Whenever they have close ups on his face, I find his expressions are always very entrancing/intune with the music 

 

E.g. that one shot of Yuzuru's face during H&L https://youtu.be/BLnWD7i99-w?t=405 

 

 

... which has been screencapped or giffed a million times for its sheer beauty...

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I expected him to recycle both of his programs since we knew there'd be no media day this year. I'm very happy about his choices, both programs are very, very good and he didn't have enough opportunities to skate to them last year - he only skated to Origin twice before the got injured and while with Otonal he got WRs and his skate at Rostelecom was great, he could still improve with the program, change the choreo and layout etc (didn't he say both programs were at only 30% last season? :) ) I can't wait to hear what he'll say about his programs and what are his aim with them this season. 

 

I just really hope he'll be able to make his dreams come true this season, he'll enjoy skating and stay injury free! Good luck Yuzu! :tumblr_inline_nhkf0oKdhx1qid2nw:

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When you think about it, other skaters with career of equal length may have more programs per se on their 'resume'... but how many can you name who have more masterpieces?

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I guess he must be feeling kuyashii because both programs have not been performed to the fullest. There are empty moments in Otonal, and as @Henni147 stated Yuzu is not happy about it. Personally, when I compare it to Chopin Ballade, even though it is also beautiful, Otonal feels a little bit stiff and empty, and I keep thinking that he should add this and that in that choreo, and it makes me grit my teeth sometimes. But I also think since it is already a WR performance, isn't it better to move on? With other skaters, one would dread recycling program that is already a world record. But... we know a skater who can break his own record multiple times. 

And when taking about judge scrutiny, what judges see nowadays is TES, right? It shows his drive to win the competition.

 

At this point, there is no sense in talking about how much time left for Yuzuru as figure skaters. Even if the injuries and illnesses he got every year like a clockwork is worrying, there are so many skaters that is still competing in their late 20s even with bolts inside their body. Barring a very very horrible injury, I think Yuzuru is going to stay as long as he can.  And talking about life, well, YOLO. As long as he is still alive, let's be optimistic about it.

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Just now, TallyT said:

When you think about it, other skaters with career of equal length may have more programs per se on their 'resume'... but how many can you name who have more masterpieces?


Well, I don't know with anyone else.....
But Yuzuru certainly have:

1. Parisienne Walkways and Chopin Ballad for SP
2. Seimei and H&L for LP

3. Even his exhibition programs, most notably Notte Stellata, Requiem, Haru Yo Koi --> they are all masterpieces.

I am convinced that all of those are programs of a lifetime and will forever be associated with him. These programs are perfection: layout, difficulty, quality, interpretation, and definitely execution. Distinctive choreographic movements too, that when somebody else use similar choreography, you can definitely note his signatures there. At the very least in his generation (which arguably starts the day he enter the senior race) you will find no one that can be on par with this achievement.


I agree that it is exciting to have new programs every season, but there is no point if a skater cannot churn the best performance from those programs.

 

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24 minutes ago, Amura365 said:

Honestly I don't know how to feel about him recycling last years programs. I liked both his SP and FS but I feel like the long was more justified in repeating than the SP. Otanal already has that world record score plus many of his naysayers as well as well as some of his fans would rather see him do new programs as we don't know how much longer he'll be skating.  I also don't think it will do him any favors when it comes to the judges scrutiny of him. With everyone else seemly having new programs but him.   I also understand that with his injuries last season he did not get to skate the programs like he wanted to especially the FS. The only way he can made Otanal better since it's already a world record program is with upgraded tech content. Which worries me.  Over all I'm a bit disappointed I was hoping for at least one new program.

Since when Yuzuru pay attention to his naysayers ? As if he's bother by people who mock his style and costume and those who wrote him off the competetions for years.  How long he would be skate is for him to decide, fan's expectations should never play any part in his decisions. New or old programs, he will always be judged in a different standard.

 

I understand why some people hope for new programs. I love it too, but I love to see Yuzuru on the ice enough to accept anything he skate to. 

 

 

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tbh Yuzu repeated/recycled his 2nd OGM winning performances. I have no issues of him doing both SP and FP again.

imo he wanted to show us something with these two pieces. He wants to win everything with it so I will support him on this choice.

I am very much eager to see what he did to develop both programmes more.

And how are we too sure that the music cut is the same? He could have altered it, it might be the same song title but not the same music.

Well probably not major music makeover but I believe he tweaked parts here and there and putting it all together its as good as a new programme.

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I'm really glad to see Origin back... I expected it 100%, Yuzu is not the type to give up on a program until it's been skated to its full potential. Wish he had this same energy for LGC though... as a LGC stan I had a tiny bit of hope to see it again- to me it's the best choreographed & most difficult SP ever so it is the one that deserves to hold the WR.

I love Otoñal but it'll be very hard to surpass the wonderful performances of it that he's done already (I believe Yuzu could do it though).

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I think recycling both programs is a brilliant idea. 

Probably judges haven't seen these two programs enough to correctly judge them, and probably Yuzuru understood this as well. Judges are harsh with him, always have been. It's like his PCS have a cap that somehow he cannot go over 96 in PCS (except H&L 2017). This is not fair, also because people who work a lot less in interpretation, program, skating skills, flow, atmosphere, emotions, receive more or less the same scores by now. 

So repeating these programs is like Yuzuru telling the judges "Watch closely, this time". 

 

And watch closely they will, because the best hasn't come yet. 

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I can repeat it again and again. I'm very happy about the ♻️, because:

  • Thinking of PW 2.0, Chopin 2.0 & 3.0, Seimei 2.0 and Notte 2.0... the second and third round was really special in all 5 cases. O&O 2.0 will be breathtaking, too, for sure.
  • I love love love Otonal and I want to love it even more. This program deserves much more credit. #JusticeForOtonal
  • The truth is: Yuzu as one of really few skaters with a) recycled programs and b) no vocals but more classical pieces completely strikes out again. Otonal and Origin will be a very welcome change for our ears after a series of modern music pieces with terrible cuts, I tell you.

 

#Funfact: Yuzu has set 9 world records in the SP so far. It would be really fitting to do #10 in his 10th senior season and with Otonal I'm confident that he can do it. It would be an incredible achievement.

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I totally expected Yuzu to recycle his programs from last season. He only got to perform them on a big stage too few times and there's great potential in both Otonal and Origin. I'm confident that he'll turn them into absolute masterpieces this season. I have a feeling that he'll rewrite skating history yet again.

 

Besides, I think Yuzu recycling his programs is also a good sign that he intends to continue competing. I don't think he'd use two tribute programs for the last season of his career. 

 

I'm just happy that I get to see Yuzu create art and magic and the ice for one more season. It's such a privilege to watch him, cheer him on, support him and accompany him on his journey as a fan. :tumblr_inline_n18qr5lPWB1qid2nw:

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