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As I understood his cf contract with P&G ended (he is now with Bathclin) and Fantasy on Ice was mainly produced (sponsored) by P&G. Every his cf video was removed. Then at the end of the show there were rumors that somebody is leaving the show (people were guessing Plushenko or Buttle) but now I am thinking actually about Yuzu.... It seems absolutely improbable as he was the main star of the show... but still.. why else they removed his cf videos???  What do you think?

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12 minutes ago, Ager said:

As I understood his cf contract with P&G ended (he is now with Bathclin) and Fantasy on Ice was mainly produced (sponsored) by P&G. Every his cf video was removed. Then at the end of the show there were rumors that somebody is leaving the show (people were guessing Plushenko or Buttle) but now I am thinking actually about Yuzu.... It seems absolutely improbable as he was the main star of the show... but still.. why else they removed his cf videos???  What do you think?

He's been with Bathclin since 2016 or so. Even the current CM I think was probably filmed some time back but they only started running it now. They had one last year, too, that also seemed old, but hadn't been run before.

 

I agree though that the P&G contract probably ended, which would explain them removing all the videos and content (though the timing is pretty bad as they had campaigns for the upcoming Tokyo Olympics with Yuzu and Matsuoka). I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with FaOI, though. I think Yuzu will only leave FaOI if he starts his own series, with Continues. And his connection is probably more through CIC than P&G. On the other hand, Jeff has hinted at retiring - in a FaOI interview he said he's nearing the end of his pro career - and Johnny I think has said he will retire next year? So it doesn't really have to be Yuzu. No idea about Plush, though. I don't think Yuzu will have much time for Continues until he retires, though who knows? But I'm not sure retirement is that close on the horizon - unless he is crazy enough to land all 6 quads in competition this season.

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2 hours ago, KatjaThera said:

and Johnny I think has said he will retire next year?

 

...what I remembered from reading his insta post he will retire in 2022? 

...just heard about Jeff going to retire from pro skating too btw ._.

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2 minutes ago, Figure_Frenzy said:

 

...what I remembered from reading his insta post he will retire in 2022? 

...just heard about Jeff going to retire from pro skating too btw ._.

Oops could be... I remembered 2020 something, but my memory often fails like that.

 

I literally went "Noooooo! :sorrow:" When I heard Jeff mention retiring... he is such a precious performer... in the multitude of FaOI skaters this year at least, Jeff has his own, very specific style. And his smile can really light up the room. But on the other hand, he's really in demand as choreographer as well, and has had injuries, so it could be he wants to settle to just choreo... or maybe he has plans to coach? I have no idea...

 

Johnny retiring is sad, too. Whatever one might thing about him as a person, he's a great performer and Fuego was one of the FaOI highlights for me! But I guess changing of the guard is natural... wish they could all continue until their 40s like Candeloro, though lol (Though I think Candeloro does very few shows)

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It is very sad for both Jeff and Johnny. They have such a unique style of performing ,the stand out in  Show like FaOI ....maybe it’s their experience but it’s always a pleasure to watch them.

Plushy looks a little bit more stuff to me and while unappreciated him as an athlete I am not sure about the performance side.one thing for sure he seems to have let go completely and lots of fun which is always nice.

Truly it’s the end of an era for me.

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2 minutes ago, mercedes said:

It is very sad for both Jeff and Johnny. They have such a unique style of performing ,the stand out in  Show like FaOI ....maybe it’s their experience but it’s always a pleasure to watch them.

Plushy looks a little bit more stuff to me and while unappreciated him as an athlete I am not sure about the performance side.one thing for sure he seems to have let go completely and lots of fun which is always nice.

Truly it’s the end of an era for me.

From my experience of watching Plushy live, like I said once in a FaOI report, anyone else doing the stuff he does would be awkward. But he still has the Plushy charm and the ability to make the whole crowd react, so he can pull it off. Admittedly, aside from his funnier programs, I'm not particularly super keen to see him in shows, but I'm sure if he retires, it'll be sad to know we won't see him again. In Toyama, he actually put a funny spin on the ending of his program, which I think was very welcome (even though he received, as always, thunderous applause and cheers even without that). Not to mention actually made everyone laugh lol.

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I just saw the competition schedule for the next season:

Sep 12-14 Autumn Classic

Oct 03-05 Shanghai Trophy

Oct 25-27 Skate Canada GP

 

I wonder, which competitions Yuzu will attend this year. I don't think that he will do both ACI and ST, but only one of them to test his new program layouts (and maybe new programs).

He's invited to the Shanghai Trophy, but those three weeks break before SC might be too short, aye? However, if Yuzu doesn't go and Nathan does, this could fuel negative and unncessary narratives again...:13877886: How do you think about this?

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The only one of those competitions where Yuzu's participation has been announced by the ISU is Skate Canada, and that's the ISU assigning him there. There hasn't been any official announcement yet by the JSF or Yuzu as to which competitions he'll do. 

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41 minutes ago, Henni147 said:

I just saw the competition schedule for the next season:

Sep 12-14 Autumn Classic

Oct 03-05 Shanghai Trophy

Oct 25-27 Skate Canada GP

 

I wonder, which competitions Yuzu will attend this year. I don't think that he will do both ACI and ST, but only one of them to test his new program layouts (and maybe new programs).

He's invited to the Shanghai Trophy, but those three weeks break before SC might be too short, aye? However, if Yuzu doesn't go and Nathan does, this could fuel negative and unncessary narratives again...:13877886: How do you think about this?

 

Don't worry, it won't fuel any negative narratives -  Nathan won't be there either because he will compete at Japan Open the same weekend.

It was a polite invitation from Shanghai Trophy but no one really expects Yuzu to go there as he never went to other smaller competitions between his Challenger event and first GP event.

 

ACI is highly possible for Yuzu, even if it'll be quite early this season, and it'll be the first Challenger this time. Both ACI and GP Helsinki were one week later than ACI and SC will be this season so it's doable. I think JSF will announce the list Challenger skaters very soon.

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Can't see yuzu doing shanghai trophy. Flying to the other side of the world for  something like that would be unusual for him based on history. ACI is more appealing since it is literally just a short drive down the road, but who knows. 

 

Jeff, johnny and Plush retiring from shows would be kind of the end to their era, but personally that is fine with me.  I dont really enjoy shows much anymore unless it is group numbers and newer stars like yuzu.  They each have other roles in the skating world to devote their energies towards so their influence will be felt for years to come.

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36 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

Don't worry, it won't fuel any negative narratives -  Nathan won't be there either because he will compete at Japan Open the same weekend.

Right. I forgot about the conflict with Japan Open :headdesk:

In that case I agree that ACI is definitely the more likely choice. It's in the neighborhood of Toronto and there's some break before SC. I wonder, if Media Day at TCC will be a bit earlier than last year as well (I wouldn't mind... :P).

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6 hours ago, KatjaThera said:

 

I agree though that the P&G contract probably ended, which would explain them removing all the videos and content (though the timing is pretty bad as they had campaigns for the upcoming Tokyo Olympics with Yuzu and Matsuoka). I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with FaOI, though. I think Yuzu will only leave FaOI if he starts his own series, with Continues. And his connection is probably more through CIC than P&G. On the other hand, Jeff has hinted at retiring - in a FaOI interview he said he's nearing the end of his pro career - and Johnny I think has said he will retire next year? So it doesn't really have to be Yuzu. No idea about Plush, though. I don't think Yuzu will have much time for Continues until he retires, though who knows? But I'm not sure retirement is that close on the horizon - unless he is crazy enough to land all 6 quads in competition this season.

I am really thinking Yuzu is closer to retirement than most of us think (or WANT to think since for most of us Yuzu should compete forever).  I think, with all his mention of Nessie and wanting to do all of the quads that he is looking to retire after this season, but desires to go out in a blaze of glory, with his taking gold every time his blades hit the ice and his doing ALL of the quads in a SINGLE program.  Sensing Yuzu's sense of what is right, I think this is likely his last season unless he hangs on until Beijing.  If Yuzu doesn't retire this season it does mean he's planning on Beijing, since retiring after the season that directly precedes Beijing would not, to Yuzu, seem appropriate.  He will, however, continue to Beijing only if he feels confident of doing a 'threepeat', something which has only been done once, and that back in the 20s and 30s.

 

As far as ice shows, I have been strongly thinking since Continues that Yuzu sees his ice show future as a producer.  His friendship with Plushie has almost certainly made him acquainted with a show Plushy has done in Russia with Plushy as the star in a masculine version of Hans Christian Andersen's Snow Queen.  We were given a hint of that back in Continues in that Yuzu seeks an ice show format that has a unified theme or storyline and is not simply a collection of skaters doing their exhibition skates.  Almost certainly Yuzu has seen the North American Stars on Ice, which has a format that involves the star skaters interacting with each other in ways they do not in Fantasy on Ice.  As far as financing for such an endeavor Yuzu will have no trouble rounding up money to back him.  In Japan the mere mention of Yuzu as being in a particular competition or show guarantees an almost instant sell-out.  In many respects he may be the greatest cash cow that figure skating has ever seen.

 

Coaching may also be in Yuzu's future, but only after he has made his mark in the history of ice shows.  I wouldn't be surprised if Yuzu's intentions regarding ice shows involve putting together a show that can successfully tour internationally.  In a career that has been highlight by a succession of 'youngest' and 'firsts' and record-breaking, Yuzu would not be averse to achieving a number of ice show firsts.  He's already made his mark on competitive figure-skating, a mark that essentially makes this decade the Yuzuru Hanyu decade just as the preceding one is dominated by Plushenko.  If he's made his mark as a competitor and an ice show producer then I think coaching will be the next mountain he intends to climb.  He has as his model one of the most successful coaches in the history of figure skating.  All in all Yuzu is not going to simply retire and fade into the hazy realms of figure-skating history.  He intends to remain the Absolute Champion in one way or another well beyond his days of skating for points.  As with all things Yuzuru it will be interesting, very interesting, and, as always, something which only Yuzu is able to do.

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