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3 hours ago, Seorose said:

Many people have gotten stirrer spoons this weekend!

What did people have to do to get them? Just going by the picture it looks like they were something they had to mail away for.

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4 hours ago, Shimmering said:

BTW, I don't know much about the technical aspects, but the jumps of most of the top guys seemed higher and covering more distance than what I see today (and they were mostly triples, too). Is it just a false impression, or do many guys today tend to jump lower?

 

Bigger/higher jumps are harder to control (like Misha/Yuzu/Boyang's 4Lz). The trend for jumps now seem to be going for a faster rotation + smaller jump size which seems to be easier to control. Plus with GOEs not being used properly, you could land a quad with high BV and still get high GOEs despite not ticking all the GOE boxes (one of which is good height and distance).

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20 minutes ago, rockstaryuzu said:

What did people have to do to get them? Just going by the picture it looks like they were something they had to mail away for.

 

I think there was a twitter contest? Take a picture of your own Ghana hot choco concoction with their hashtag.

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13 минут назад, kaeryth сказал:

 

Bigger/higher jumps are harder to control (like Misha/Yuzu/Boyang's 4Lz). The trend for jumps now seem to be going for a faster rotation + smaller jump size which seems to be easier to control. Plus with GOEs not being used properly, you could land a quad with high BV and still get high GOEs despite not ticking all the GOE boxes (one of which is good height and distance).

Thanks for explaining! I wonder if to land a quint one would need faster rotation or greater height (both?) And whether people are actually going to land any in, say the next ten years (I remember asking my mom when I was small why people didn't jump quads and she said probably the ice rink wasn't large enough for them to gain enough speed :tumblr_inline_mqt4grU8ua1qz4rgp:)

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5 hours ago, shanshani said:

I thought Matteo Rizzo was pretty good...obviously not Yuzu-level, but still quite musical and enjoyable to watch.

I didn't watch the Junior men's FS, but I did watch the SP, and in my opinion a decent number of them skated quite beautifully there, especially considering they're juniors.

 

:offtopic2:

I agree that Matteo's FS is very entertaining, especially the second half. However, I do believe that you could get out a lot more of that Queen medley.

I remember Yuzu at the age of 16-17 (younger than many juniors yesterday!). He had the same arsenal of jumps as Matteo at the age of 20, but his performance level has been very high already. R&J1 in Nice was jawdropping despite the fall (or perhaps because of the fall?) As if his life depended on it. I miss that spirit with most skaters today.

#Footnote: don't get me wrong. I really celebrated Matteo's skates at Euros and the Universiade and will follow all of his performances in the future, but he still needs time to become a true master of his music and choreo. That's why I pray that all these youngsters stay competitive till the age of 25-30. The technical content might suffer a bit, I don't know, but the maturity and artistic abilities could reach the next level.

 

One of my absolute favorites this season is Kevin Aymoz. His programs are very innovative, unique and 100% passionate. He can sell them anytime even with mistakes. I have goosebumps after every performance.

Another skater who could have a great total package is Camden Pulkinen. His style reminds me a bit of Patrick Chan. But without a quad and desastrous freeskates it's a hopeless story I fear.

 

I'm not surprised at all that the overall quality of the short programs is much better than the freeskates. You have to consider:

SP: 3 jump elements in nearly 3 minutes

FS: 7 jump elements in 4 minutes

In the short you have a lot more time and energy resources to do something creative and exciting between the jumps. Plus: you can drop your jump nemesis (unless it's the Axel). In the free you have to survive every technical obstacle first and that restrains your performance massively...

If Yuzu wasn't bond to any rules and included the jumps the way he liked (number, type, frequency), I bet my Pooh plushy that Origin would be a performance for the ages at first attempt.

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9 hours ago, shanshani said:

I thought Matteo Rizzo was pretty good...obviously not Yuzu-level, but still quite musical and enjoyable to watch.

 

Allow me to get :offtopic2:for a bit... The first time I saw Matteo at the Olympics I didn't pay him much attention, but with the way he has developed (and with his recent FS showing at the Universiade) he came under my radar of skaters I keep my watch on, and I think I should continue to do so going forward :68468287:.

Another musical skater I could think of is Donovan Carillo, who while hasn't gotten all the technical skills down yet, is already so engaging as a performer.

 

I don't really have more to add on this discussion but as has been pointed out, there are young skaters out there that still care about showing the best performance, which consists of attention to musicality and doing your best to show what the skate is about. (Obviously (most of) their performances (still) pale in comparison to current Yuzu's performance quality which just shows us how special is Yuzu in this regard :68468287: , but on their own they are quite good, and it will be interesting to see how they will develop further...)

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Ten days count down 

 

inhale and exhale*

inhale and exhale*

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is this true? haha

 

edit: seems like it. 

 

yuzu collecting elite fanboys and fangirls left and right

 

Coaches: His coach (brian), his rival's coach(raf), his idol's coach(mishin), his idol's rival's coach (tat)

 

Idols: his idol (plushenko), his idol's rival(yagudin)

 

ladies: miyahara, zhenya, zagitova, yulia, 

 

men: daniel, stephen, camden, tomoki, the whole team japan

 

novice: sasha and the sweeping boy(forgot his name)

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, makebelieveup said:

is this true? haha

 

edit: seems like it. 

 

yuzu collecting elite fanboys and fangirls left and right

 

Coaches: His coach (brian), his rival's coach(raf), his idol's coach(mishin), his idol's rival's coach (tat)

 

Idols: his idol (plushenko), his idol's rival

 

ladies: miyahara, zhenya, zagitova, yulia, 

 

men: daniel, stephen, camden, tomoki, the whole team japan

 

novice: sasha and the sweeping boy(forgot his name)

 

 

 

Add here Rika. She can't stop talking about Zu's salchow. :68468287:

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26 minutes ago, makebelieveup said:

is this true? haha

 

edit: seems like it. 

 

yuzu collecting elite fanboys and fangirls left and right

 

Coaches: His coach (brian), his rival's coach(raf), his idol's coach(mishin), his idol's rival's coach (tat)

 

Idols: his idol (plushenko), his idol's rival

 

ladies: miyahara, zhenya, zagitova, yulia, 

 

men: daniel, stephen, camden, tomoki, the whole team japan

 

novice: sasha and the sweeping boy(forgot his name)

 

Tomoki predicted the podium, Yuzu, Nathan and Shoma and Roman, Daniel agreed with him. Stephen first mentioned only Yuzu then added Nathan too

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20 минут назад, makebelieveup сказал:

is this true? haha

 

edit: seems like it. 

 

yuzu collecting elite fanboys and fangirls left and right

 

Coaches: His coach (brian), his rival's coach(raf), his idol's coach(mishin), his idol's rival's coach (tat)

 

Idols: his idol (plushenko), his idol's rival

 

ladies: miyahara, zhenya, zagitova, yulia, 

 

men: daniel, stephen, camden, tomoki, the whole team japan

 

novice: sasha and the sweeping boy(forgot his name)

 

 

 

Seriously? And none of them said "Me"? (Yuzu probably would have :tumblr_inline_mqt4grU8ua1qz4rgp:)

 

I wonder if TAT has ever given music to any other skater who was not her student.

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2 hours ago, makebelieveup said:

is this true? haha

 

edit: seems like it. 

 

yuzu collecting elite fanboys and fangirls left and right

 

Coaches: His coach (brian), his rival's coach(raf), his idol's coach(mishin), his idol's rival's coach (tat)

 

Idols: his idol (plushenko), his idol's rival(yagudin)

 

ladies: miyahara, zhenya, zagitova, yulia, 

 

men: daniel, stephen, camden, tomoki, the whole team japan

 

novice: sasha and the sweeping boy(forgot his name)

 

 

 

Don't forget Javi! And Jason Brown too! And Tessa and Scott...the list goes on...

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Just now, rockstaryuzu said:

Don't forget Javi! And Jason Brown too! And Tessa and Scott...the list goes on...

they're all skaters by day and fanyus by night :muahaha:

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1 minute ago, makebelieveup said:

they're all skaters by day and fanyus by night :muahaha:

I dunno, at this point some of them seem more like 24/7 fanyus who moonlight as skaters. I was watching the Universiade gala and yet another skater I'd never heard of was out there hydroblading away...:LOL:

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