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11 minutes ago, 4Nessie said:

I don't know about all this. I don't want to judge Johnny's decisions or Nathan's scores, because it is a hopeless case.

One thing that makes me angry though, is that everyone in US media is trying so hard to create an image of Nathan. Why can't they let him make his own and speak for himself? People are actually able to decide, if someone skates good. Is it really necessary to say on the loop, that Nathan is "in the league of his own"? We are able to see and decide if he really is.

I want this sport to be a peaceful place but I guess people need some drama and they try hard to make figure skating a battlefield. 

The thing about Nathan is he isn't even half the things they tell he is. He respects Yuzu and never got ahead of himself in spite his impressive abilities. They are not friends, that's for sure, but they respect each other. It's a shame the media can't leave them alone.

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I think it's also worth noting that it's possible - if not likely - that, although Johnny has been nice towards Yuzu a lot over the years, it's not really for his personality that Yuzu idolizes him, but for his skating. And those don't necessarily have to be the same. I'm sure as a fan and someone who knows Johnny, Yuzu knows better than us what Johnny is like. It's also not like Johnny is his BFF who betrayed him. It's also not impossible to like Yuzu and still think, for whatever reason, that Nathan is the best thing since sliced bread. While I'm upset myself about it, I do think there's a lot of overreaction, too. It's not even like he said Yuzu's crap. I can imagine Yuzu going: "Oh, yeah? You think Nathan's better? Ok, challenge accepted!" rather than going angsty about it.

 

And anyway, in a way he's right. Yuzu is not very likely to ever get such a score because JSF is neither that into inflation, neither that fond of Yuzu and he virtually never gets candy from International judges either. Of course, scores are only half the story, though and if Johnny honestly wants to believe Nathan is the best, good for him. Doesn't make him right.

 

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2 minutes ago, MeowZu said:

The thinh about Nathan is he isn't even half the things they tell he is. He respects Yuzu and never got ahead of himself despite his impressive abilities. They are not friends, that's for sure, but they respect each other. It's a shame the media can't leave them alone.

 

My - admittedly, somewhat uninformed, because I don't follow Nathan - impression is that Nathan is about as down to earth and realistic about where he actually stands as the people around him and media and USFS and judges are delusional. Which, hats off to him, seriously, because it's so easy to get caught up in that hype. But I think Nathan knows how much is reality and how much is hype (and I doubt he enjoys the hype, either... he doesn't seem the type to enjoy the spotlight that much... reminds me of Shoma more than Yuzu).

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5 hours ago, MeowZu said:

Our kind sunshine boy. Never change, Zazunori Hangu.

 

 

Oh, Jason, you sweet boy, you, watering out poor Fanyu cacti souls and giving us some Yuzu insights! Thank you and congrats for the podium at USNat! :8232307::tumblr_inline_ncmifaymmi1rpglid::8232307:

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I think it’s partly an expectation born out of previous eras in figure skating, when rivals did seem to hate each other and the public lapped up the drama - Yagudin/Pluschenko, Harding/Kerrigan, Weir/Lysacek.  Pre Sochi Patrick Chan wasn’t exactly friendly towards his rivals, other Canadian skaters in pairs and ice dance, but not his competitors.  Somewhere on YouTube there is a clip of a tv programme with Tracey Wilson in which her co presenters can’t wrap their heads around the idea that Fernandez and Hanyu could co exist at TCC without that kind of enmity.  Hence the Olympic channel’s surprised coverage of the friendliness of the PC podium.  US media wants the drama of confrontation- and Weir and Lipinski are employed to stir that up.  Hopefully the skaters are level headed enough not to take the bait.

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Its not about how great nathan is or who Jhonny loves or not. But while saying he can't imagine anyone, including yuzu, can beat him, he should have consider yuzu was injured or not mentioned him at all, it would be much respectful, i'm disappointed yet not surprised.

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Commentators are free to say what they think, its doesn;t mean its right or its what would happen. As I said before, Yuzuru awared alot of things around him. If he doesn't feel comfortable with someone or don't want to give tabloid materials, he would avoid them. We saw it with Evgenia and Misha. 

 

For Worlds I hope Yuzuru would be healthy and skate two great perfomances that he can be satisfy and do those program justice. Whatever judges do or how his rivals skate, he couldnt control. For me, the fact that he still compete after PC is a bonus, he would do ice show, events, CM but still choose to go through intense training, rehab. Some people always eager to write him off everytime there's top men skate well. In 2014, Japanese media said Shoma would overtake him soon, after WC15 people also thought Nam would beat him next season. These kind of narratives are not new and will continue as long as he compete. But he's Yuzuru Hanyu, I truly believe he would find a way to win like he always does

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Well, Johnny, the Fanyu community loved you bc you're one of Yuzu's idols and he loves your skating but you managed to change this in one night with one shitty comment! Congrats! lol 

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3 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

On a lighter(?) note...this is a beautiful photo.

 

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Aww... Yuzu, can you stretch a bit higher or cut few inches of the shirt hems plz? :img_21:

 

 

When I checked US nats scores, I just laughed. It's just so US - Bigger the better! Give away 10's and +5s. And Johnny's comment? I understand he's patriotic but his association with Yuzu got him into hot sticky mud. He shouldn't have put that Yuzu-kun comment really. No need. Yuzu is the one to beat when it comes to figure skating record so he's dragged into it every time someone skates with big scores. But we don't need to fight for Yuzu. He will answer all the questions when he's on the ice. HE WILL DO WHATEVER NECESSARY TO LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT HE'S THE KING. Or at least that's what I think he'd do. No freaking other way to make those people understand. And also, you can make up scores but the world falls silence when Yuzu skates those magical performances. You cannot fake that. Nobody other than Yuzu can do that. Well, to me anyway. 

 

You can score anything if you want really. It is almost like name a price of an art. If you think you'd pay a million dollar for an old pot, that's the value you see in the object. I came to realise the fs judging is not done objectively but it's always in subjectively. Unless you're the judge, ofc you'll not be satisfied with it. But somehow Yuzu is fighting to make those blind eyes peeled to see the utter beauty that he creates through his skating. It's up to them to see it.

 

Bringing back LGC sounds crazy but fun. But I love Otonal already so I don't see any point of changing it bc of Johnny's slip of a tongue comments. I'd like to see Yuzu absolutely having a ball at WC and if he's satisfied with his performances, I don't think I care what happens after that.

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3 minutes ago, ralucutzagy said:

Well, Johnny, the Fanyu community loved you bc you're one of Yuzu idols and he loves your skating but you managed to change this in one night with one shitty comment! Congrats! lol 

 

I've done some work in social media management so I'm seriously fascinated watching this unfold. I tweeted at him much earlier and my mentions have been blowing up since, so I just checked and hours later he's STILL getting dragged :english1:  I'm sure he never expected this one comment to blow up like this, but I also can't say I feel too bad about it. People are constantly saying annoyingly stupid and/or incorrect things about Yuzu or using him in one way or another for their own gain, so I'm kinda okay with watching someone actually get held accountable for it for once. 

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It might sound strange, but I feel that this stellar score from Nathan and the hype around him is the absolute best thing that could happen to Yuzu at this point.

Whenever someone put his GOAT status into question, Yuzu fired back with a new WR or Olympic Gold.

 

We all remember his reaction to Boyang's TES records at NHK '15...

We all remember Barcelona 2015, where Yuzu got angry about the 'Javi! Javi!' screams from the crowd before his free...

We all remember his resurrection in Helsinki, where everyone has written him off after his 5th place in the short...

We all remember is comeback after injury in PyeongChang...

 

There is no more dangerous Yuzu than a really furious and provoked Yuzu :laughing:

(I can see his murder face in Origin already...)

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Attacked by clearfiles. :10742290::13877886:

 

And

The fan replies to this tweet has lots of memorable Javi/Yuzu moments.  :softYuzu:

 

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I am disappointed in Johnny Weir...you can commentate and appreciate Nathan's skate without mentioning Yuzu( who is injured and in recovery) in such a negative way.  

I hope Yuzu is not hurt by his comments.

lol....who am I kidding?  I think this is backstabbing pure and simple.  With love like this, who needs enemies

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Yuzu is one smart bean, I'm sure he'll not be offended on what Johnny said during US Nats. And with Adam nipping at his heels, Johnny cannot really afford to be less patriotic toward US skaters either. Thus I kinda ignore that comps and its commentary. I'll admit there's some worry that Nate's inflated scores will prevail during Worlds, but should that happen then I'll fully support Yuzu if he decided going pro. ISU doesn't deserve him.


Well, but the showdown is still two months away. At this time I can only counting down the days to Worlds and pray that Yuzu will be fully healthy by then. Watching several performances last weekend really reminded me how much I miss the boy and why. 

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