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9 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

He's being judged so harshly.. But I hope it makes him more stronger. May God bless him so he can pull out all of his strength at Olympic. 

 

More than harshly, he's being judged 'strictly' from a score point of view, while others are thrown candies at, so really, I wouldn't want judges to start doing the same with with Yuzu, but just stop doing it with others hahaha! 

And yes, this did make him stronger because it compelled him to fight. Olympic season back in 2014 wasn't easy for him. He struggled so much, and his win at GPF was his first gold of the season, if I'm not mistaken. 

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17 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

 

More than harshly, he's being judged 'strictly' from a score point of view, while others are thrown candies at, so really, I wouldn't want judges to start doing the same with with Yuzu, but just stop doing it with others hahaha! 

And yes, this did make him stronger because it compelled him to fight. Olympic season back in 2014 wasn't easy for him. He struggled so much, and his win at GPF was his first gold of the season, if I'm not mistaken. 

Yes you're right. Back then, I remember he was trying so hard to get better PCS and he got 90+ at GPF, right? He was second for both GPS and finally won a gold at GPF :smiley-love017: 

As @meoima said, 'Greatness has to obtain by trials and hardships.' 

 

Eta: I think he won at Finlandia Trophy 2013

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25 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

Yes you're right. Back then, I remember he was trying so hard to get better PCS and he got 90+ at GPF, right? He was second for both GPS and finally won a gold at GPF :smiley-love017: 

As @meoima said, 'Greatness has to obtain by trials and hardships.' 

 

Eta: I think he won at Finlandia Trophy 2013

 

Oh true, lucky Finlandia. Wasn't much of a big win anyways. Kind of like Chopin at ACI this year, so wonderful and perfect, but followed by great f*ck up. :laughing:

Anyways, I'm all about the hardships. I will cheer for him through all of his bombings, if he is left with some more! This is the first season I'm following from start to finish (and it better not be the last one...), so yes, I know about the fact that he peeks later in theory, but I have yet to experience it directly on my nerves. 

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25 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

Yes you're right. Back then, I remember he was trying so hard to get better PCS and he got 90+ at GPF, right? He was second for both GPS and finally won a gold at GPF :smiley-love017: 

As @meoima said, 'Greatness has to obtain by trials and hardships.' 

 

Eta: I think he won at Finlandia Trophy 2013

Yuzu: It's all in my calculations. :devilYuzu:

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1 minute ago, Murieleirum said:

 

Oh true, lucky Finlandia. Wasn't much of a big win anyways. Kind of like Chopin at ACI this year, so wonderful and perfect, but followed by great f*ck up. :laughing:

Anyways, I'm all about the hardships. I will cheer for him through all of his bombings, if he is left with some more! This is the first season I'm following from start to finish (and it better not be the last one...), so yes, I know about the fact that he peeks later in theory, but I have yet to experience it directly on my nerves. 

I'm following his 'peaking' for the first time and its such a rollercoaster ride. Following him during the Olympic season especially doesn't help ease anything:rofl:

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52 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

 

More than harshly, he's being judged 'strictly' from a score point of view, while others are thrown candies at, so really, I wouldn't want judges to start doing the same with with Yuzu, but just stop doing it with others hahaha! 

And yes, this did make him stronger because it compelled him to fight. Olympic season back in 2014 wasn't easy for him. He struggled so much, and his win at GPF was his first gold of the season, if I'm not mistaken. 

And I just watched the British uncles' comments on his COR FS, very disappointing, they said he has no content !:facepalm:

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I know people say that Yuzuru uses the strict judging and harsh criticism to motivate himself but it is still unfair and very hard to accept. I know from experience as a woman in STEM, I had to work twice as hard as the men and always get half the reward, and it is very demoralizing. When you work hard on something it is natural to expect a reward or at least some appreciation, and seeing other get the same or better reward without exerting the same effort is really really painful. My only wish is that Yuzu values his own (and his fans) satisfaction with a performance over the scores since these  obviously have other factors influencing them that no amount of hard work or talent will offset.

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5 minutes ago, fluffypooh said:

And I just watched the British uncles' comments on his COR FS, very disappointing, they said he has no content !:facepalm:

 

I won't listen to them. I won't harm myself in that way :rofl:Yeah, of course, no content... although @meoima shared just a couple of days ago that video in which very interesting numbers were explained... like the fact that Yuzuru travels more than 50 meters more than the other top 5 on average... or that he lowered the number of crossovers this season, which is the lowest among the top 5... the fact that his turns and steps are in higher number than everyone else among the top 5... 

We could keep going and remind them all of these things and they would still continue to say what they want to say. 

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Best not to look at Besp any more unless you have to- I had to last night because I was late home and didn't have time to sort out anything else.  Even if you have no commentary or one you can't understand it won't be as annoying as listening to those idiots.

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19 hours ago, Mastyaeva said:

The parts about Yuzu from the Aliev's interview after CoR. https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20171027/1127820701.html

Okay, guys, this is my first translation experience. I'm not sure if everything is correct, but I tried to be as close to the text as possible (sometimes even to the detriment of the beauty of the translation). My interventions are marked in italics.

J - journalist, A - Aliev

 

In the beginning Aliev speaks about his injury (foot swelling, probably because of the new boots and also because of the 4luz training).

 

J: Coming back to the Moscow’s grand prix - did you think about the withdrawal?

A: No. Although this all went not according the plan: I was going to have the trial competition in Bratislava, but in the end it was the Grand prix.

J: And this trial competition was on the same ice with Yuzuru Hanyu. How did it feel?

A: Already before the competition I understood that I would have enough rating points and I would be in the same training group as he. I’ve heard a lot about how Hanyu is able to “kill” during practices (and here comes the photo of an angelic Yuzu with ribbons; perfect location, guys, the king of trolling would be proud of you). But before the beginning of the competition I tried to not pay attention to him, to concentrate on myself. Then in the short program I became the third and was near Hanyu and Nathan Chen at the press conference. For me this was honorable and valuable.

J: Winnie the Pooh’s mania around Hanyu and in general, his magic of a man thousands and thousands of people are crazy about - did it shook (impressed?) you?

A: To tell you the truth, I didn’t notice many things. But of course I was surprised there were so many people in practices. During the first practice, I come to ice and expect to see only technical specialists and judges - but there are so many people there! But I really tried to disconnect from all this. Even when they made ovations for him during jumps, I tried to not pay attention.

J: And before, did Hanyu was your idol?

A: Surely, he was. And now, after I have been near him during practice, for example, I felt that he has crazy (insane?) internal energy, which he knows to turn on when it's necessary. It seems the connection he has with his fans is also an energetic one (this is very accentuated in Russian).

J: They often copy idols in the individual sports. Did you ever want to adopt something from him?

A: I would like to adopt his freedom and ease with which he skates. It's as if he floats on the ice, his hands are thrown down (not sure what he tries to express; something like “free hands; without any inner tension”). But it doesn't look like sluggishness, on the contrary, it's sharpness (I almost died translating this line: Aliev really tried hard to find exact words to express his thoughts so he used quite rare expressions from literary (high-class) Russian). This is what I tried to do during practice: for example, to jump 3axel and to gently (freely? Sorry, the same word in Russian) flick my fingers while landing. It’s like jumping and feel cool (bizz?; the Russian word he uses, in fact, refers to the effect after using drugs).

J: Did it work?

A: Yes, it worked. But not always. You have to feel it properly. But you shouldn't create a copy of Hanyu, of course. Or someone else copy. You can only adopt some things. But when I was a child, I tried to watch over Alexei Yagudin and Evgeni Plushenko the same way (here the second photo comes).

J: And what about to come to ice, for example, with the Soviet Winnie the Pooh, if not the Disney one, as Hanyu does? (Soviet one is different: https://im0-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=5aae5837ab72187d98b95d7a6e6670ef-l&n=13)

A: Before I always came with a bag. “To have all my belongings with me”. But now I leave it in the cloakroom. I’m sure, nothing will happen with it.

Wow, thank you for the translation!

And :laughing: at the placement of that photo. Whoever did the layout for the article, great job on that! 

 

And it's really interesting to learn about how fellow skaters feel about skating with Yuzu. We know he has such a big effect on us as fans, but it's interesting to hear about how other skaters see him. And that his talents and capabilities as a skater are really appreciated by his peers.

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37 minutes ago, fluffypooh said:

And I just watched the British uncles' comments on his COR FS, very disappointing, they said he has no content !:facepalm:

 

Some of the British ESP commentators have bias though. This particular case is Mark Hanretty, sometimes teaches skating at Glacier Ice Arena and had this to say about Nathan's 4CC '17 skate "The jumps are coming from nowhere.  He has the whole package.  He has beautiful posture, wonderfully pointed extension, nice spin positions.” [x] warning: source from Phil Hersh article. Some of these commentators have a very bad memory when it comes to Yuzu. One bad show and it's 'vulnerable' and 'inconsistent' but when he does it clean 'he's the best ever!'. :facepalm:

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