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1 hour ago, luminescenry said:

I was at ACI and I sit in front of the Canadian group like Nam for the FS, and I felt like my eardrums were going to fall off because they were trying so hard to compete in cheering, they would constantly shout "GO KEEGAN" even when he wasn't doing anything, and would even cheer louder for him when people were cheering for Yuzu. The audience in my area will also constantly cheer for anyone who skated in front of us, the loudest cheers were for Camden, Kevin, Jun, and of course Keegan. The random cheer you heard might not be for Yuzu, but for ANYONE who jumps. For the short program I sat in a different area, specifically behind a group of people who would cheer for everyone EXCEPT for Yuzu, some lady was even talking crap about him, saying he's regressing as a skater. In Japan National this year, there are tweets spreading around saying they are going to boo or distract Yuzu when he's skating, and there has been proof of it happening in the past. So yeah,  I find no problem in cheering for Yuzu especially when I witness first hand what other skaters' fans did when all we do is being supportive for every skater even if we are cheering louder for Yuzu. 

If this is real I'll only cheer for yuzu. I'm not sorry .. I'm not obligated to cheer for everyone :idk:

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8 minutes ago, Geo1 said:

 

The head of the JSF, Seiko Hashimoto, hates Yuzu.

 

I am not sure of the basis for this hatred. I don’t know whether this has anything to do with the fact that she is enamored with Daisuke Takahashi and hates Yuzu for surpassing him. It may also have something to do with the fact that Yuzu is an outlier and not associated with the main skating centers in Japan.

 

There was a scandal in 2014 after the Sochi Olympics when she was accused of sexual harassment when she was seen forcing herself on Daisuke Takahashi and kissing him when it was obvious that he was trying to resist her advances.

 

It really irked me when I saw Seiko Hashimoto sitting next to Yuzu when he received The People’s Honor Award. There was no reason for her to be there since this was a personal honour that was being bestowed upon Yuzu. The only reason for her being there was to try to take some reflective credit for Yuzu’s accomplishments. She didn’t take any part in the ceremonies and was completely ignored by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. You could see that Yuzu was not happy and I think this had everything to do with her being there.

 

I definitely believe that these moves are deliberately directed against Yuzu.

 

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PM Abe appointed Hashimoto to the cabinet level position as Minister for the Olympics, so I consider him complicit in this.  His administration does not pay attention to the mood of the people - they have tin-ears and assign positions based on the need to fill certain quota (satisfaying different factions within the Liberal Democratic Party).   Under Team Japan there is a discussion on Nobu Oda's resignation from Kansai University - which is an extension of the toxic environment created by the JSF leadership. 

 

Back on topic, Yuzu is the one hope I have that he will be able to overcome this cabal of Japanese sports establishment that has for years fostered such a bullying culture.  It's not only in Figure Skating - but perhaps someone with Yuzu's charisma as well as strategic intellect will be able to take over leadership position in the future.  He will make an awesome Minister of Olympics, but more than that, he could lead our society towards a brighter future, with compassion and integrity as the foundation of our collective behavior.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

If this is real I'll only cheer for yuzu. I'm not sorry .. I'm not obligated to cheer for everyone :idk:

You're not, but when some skater you've never heard of surprises you with an amazing quad jumped right in front of you, it's really hard not to cheer. 

 

All these athletes are working hard. I say if a cheer happens to pop from your lips, let it happen. :snpeace:

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2 minutes ago, rockstaryuzu said:

You're not, but when some skater you've never heard of surprises you with an amazing quad jumped right in front of you, it's really hard not to cheer. 

 

All these athletes are working hard. I say if a cheer happens to pop from your lips, let it happen. :snpeace:

Well..I believe I'll spontaneously cheering for skater that did amazing skating in the end. Like clapping for them. That's how I respect skaters. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Henni147 said:

 

K&C could be risky, because you can hit so many people by accident. I remember how a plushy bounced back from Yuzu's head right into the arms of a staff member. I don't know how much a thrown plushy can hurt you, but it's an unpleasant feeling for sure.

 

 

BUT there is a smart way to make a pieceful "Pooh rain" happen without breaking any rules:

 

1. Bring a Pooh plushy with you

2. Wait until the end of the performance

3. Throw the plushy into the air and catch it with your hands

4. Repeat the throw a few times, if you like

5. Recycle the plushy for the next competition

 

Okay, it's more like fireworks than rain, but the effect is similar. Some Poohs might jump down one or two rows by mistake, but I think that's within the rules :xD:

 

Great idea! If banners and throwing gifts is forbidden, then waving a big Pooh or two is making a hella statement. Those yellow Poohs are visible from a mile away and more person-specific than banners or flags.

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32 минуты назад, yuzuangel сказал:

I usually clap politely bc that's what Yuzu would want IMO, but there's only so much cheering you can do so most of the time I save it for only one skater LOL

I think I clap politely after most skates, but sometimes there're just very good performances even not from top-skaters when you want to clap hard or rarely even give a standing ovation (but I must confess, I don't like to scream at all, even at concerts :68468287:)

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I love this place because people here really care about Yuzu and can talk about what we should do as fans in a sensible and constructive way. I just wanted to share a tweet.

 

 

This fan says (I translated as word-by-word as possible):

Hanyu-san said his fans let him concentrate on his competitions, but “I receive a lot of cheering to the point I think it might disturb other skaters” means his concentration broke there. I want to root for him in a way that he doesn’t need to worry about his fans’ behaviors or apologize for them. Even more so if we wish his 4A dream come true.

 

As you can see this tweet got a lot of likes even though the person doesn’t have many followers. Bottom line is that many fans are trying to control themselves for the sake of Yuzu, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE. I personally don’t care much about how other skaters feel (sorry!) and how badly-behaved other skaters’ fans are, and I couldn’t care less if they harm their favorite’s reputations. As Murieleirum pointed out, Japanese people tend to take responsibility in a larger scale. Yuzu seems to care and worry about people around him, including his fans, a lot more than the average Japanese like myself. I sometimes get the urge to yell at him, “Don’t give it a damn, idiot! Just think about yourself!” But I guess that’s how he is and probably a reason why we love him so much. We can’t control the other side, and Yuzu can handle other fans’ cheering. Remember the time when he shut them down with a 3A when Javi fans kept cheering before Yuzu’s performance at Barcelona? And how animatedly he talked about it? But then, he hushed his fans when they did it. So I hope we can be sensibly creative and root for him in a positive and charming way. Make him proud of his fans.

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Re: Throwing gift onto the ice
AFAIK it is forbidden only at Nationals. You can throw Pooh at NHK Trophy, only from the arena, though. I personally miss large banners hung on the walls since there are many beautiful ones and I enjoyed seeing it during intermissions. I don't know why JFS decided to forbid large banners and throwing gifts, but as some of you said, we can always find other ways to show support. 

 

My random thoughts on cheering:
I rarely scream because I am not young and my voice gets very loud when I scream and often surprises people around me. Besides, at a competition where Yuzu is competing, I am busy praying.  But I don't find most of natural kyaaa, wow! aww! I hear in the venue annoying. I was there when he revealed the purple LGC costume and it was fun. He also said that he enjoyed the audience's reaction at that time. (So he is hearing, seeing what is happening around him during the competition, I think.)

However, I get very nervous when someone's screaming while a skater is going into a jump, or about to start their performance. After all, figure skating is dangerous sports even if it sometimes looks like a show. It's a very traumatic experience to see someone gets injured in front of you even if they are not your most favorite skater. I am kind of always looking for a way to let all the skaters stay focused and relaxed while sending biggest support to Yuzu.

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2 hours ago, Lily* said:

I love this place because people here really care about Yuzu and can talk about what we should do as fans in a sensible and constructive way. I just wanted to share a tweet.

 

 

This fan says (I translated as word-by-word as possible):

Hanyu-san said his fans let him concentrate on his competitions, but “I receive a lot of cheering to the point I think it might disturb other skaters” means his concentration broke there. I want to root for him in a way that he doesn’t need to worry about his fans’ behaviors or apologize for them. Even more so if we wish his 4A dream come true.

 

As you can see this tweet got a lot of likes even though the person doesn’t have many followers. Bottom line is that many fans are trying to control themselves for the sake of Yuzu, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE. I personally don’t care much about how other skaters feel (sorry!) and how badly-behaved other skaters’ fans are, and I couldn’t care less if they harm their favorite’s reputations. As Murieleirum pointed out, Japanese people tend to take responsibility in a larger scale. Yuzu seems to care and worry about people around him, including his fans, a lot more than the average Japanese like myself. I sometimes get the urge to yell at him, “Don’t give it a damn, idiot! Just think about yourself!” But I guess that’s how he is and probably a reason why we love him so much. We can’t control the other side, and Yuzu can handle other fans’ cheering. Remember the time when he shut them down with a 3A when Javi fans kept cheering before Yuzu’s performance at Barcelona? And how animatedly he talked about it? But then, he hushed his fans when they did it. So I hope we can be sensibly creative and root for him in a positive and charming way. Make him proud of his fans.

👏👏👏

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I think Yuzu would be happy if we cheered for all skaters. He loves the sport as a whole and I think moments like ACI, where the crowd lovingly cheered for all skaters - even if a bit more loudly for some of them; personally, I was surrounded by Yuzu fans, so I don't know how other skaters' fans acted, but all the Yuzu fans around me cheered for all skaters, especially in the Men's Free - probably make him happy and perhaps even proud of his fans. I thought, from that POV that ACI was beautiful and I think, for all that other skaters' fans accuse Yuzu fans of only caring about Yuzu, displays like that, where a crowd made up of a majority of Yuzu fans, cheered for all skaters, are a good answer to them. Even if they'll happily ignore it. We just have to make sure all the cheering is respectful and as minimally disruptive as possible

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