General Yuzuru Chat

[Toni]

10 hours ago, barbara said:

Beautiful.  I'll come looking for you on day 1! Did you know there are over 200 different flavors of kit kat bars in Japan?  Wow.

 

Yep, I did my research about what Japanese folks think are lucky. I actually had to buy the 5 yen coin from e-bay because American banks won't carry these very low value coins.

[monchan]

17 minutes ago, SitTwizzle said:

So, not on the market, and probably won't be for long.
What do you think could be done with a Samsung S20 Ultra smartphone to be delivered early next month? They can catch up to 60 images per second, in 8k or maybe in 4k, and for every image of a video (I have asked the customer service) they can measure the height. Of course it wouldn't be the height of the highest moment which can happen between two of the images, yet I think it would be a good indication. And with 60 images per second, with human checking afterwards, I believe one could see edges, prerotations and underrotations, maybe with only one camera? Highly probably so if there are more than one, isn't it?

Well, it is 1350€, yiiik...

Honestly any smartphone with 60fps can do the TP job: telling PR, UR, edge etc. Like we see clearly in many fancams. It's just ISU gives 0 f*ck 

[Henni147]

42 minutes ago, IULIANA said:

I completely agree with you. This is a sport of reputation and working hard on destroying, step by step, Yuzuru`s, is what should be troubling us. This is not just conspiracy theory, numbers never lie. But again, nothing to be done, unless something really shaking would make ISU change its doing.

 

 

I think, the time has finally come to nominate Yuzuru Hanyu's triple Axel as a UNESCO World Heritage.

[Crow]

And on the topic of peoples reactions to Yuzus interviews 
 

Us with our soft frail hearts and Yuzu having to take care of us all 

[barbara]

2 hours ago, memae said:

 

Exactly. Off days are expected in sport at any level. They feel terrible at the time but usually you can look back on them and see the bigger picture of what was going on at that time. A lot of the time an off day or week or whatever at the right moment sets a build towards success in motion.

He was clearly exhausted at JPF.  He'd only been there a couple of days and it takes time to overcome jet lag.  And he is hard on himself.  He is never willing to put responsibility for less than perfect scores on anything or anyone other than himself.  Nothing new there.  But exhaustion makes it a lot easier to sound more depressed than you actually are,

[SitTwizzle]

In fact, he's had a first jetlag to NHK, then two weeks later to Torino, then two weeks later to Japan Nationals. A nightmare for any "sleep MD".

[rockstaryuzu]

58 minutes ago, Crow said:

And on the topic of peoples reactions to Yuzus interviews 
 

Us with our soft frail hearts and Yuzu having to take care of us all 

I guess he can't help but be aware of what the fans think about what he says, but this just makes me . He thinks too much about this stuff. What a man. 

[monchan]

BEST angle of the BEST 4S this season probably. Look how incredibly stable his axis is throughout and the pretty ice mark of his landing curve  (that ended with a counter exit )

video

Got +4.16 GOE (only 3/9 judges gave it ) 

 

 

[yuzuangel]

11 minutes ago, monchan said:

BEST angle of the BEST 4S this season probably. Look how incredibly stable his axis is throughout and the pretty ice mark of his landing curve  (that ended with a counter exit )

video

Got +4.16 GOE (only 3/9 judges gave it ) 

 

 

What a gorgeous shot!! The most perfect jump ever! Lol the low frame rate makes that counter look so sassy when i look at his face lolol

[Crow]

18 minutes ago, monchan said:

BEST angle of the BEST 4S this season probably. Look how incredibly stable his axis is throughout and the pretty ice mark of his landing curve  (that ended with a counter exit )

video

Got +4.16 GOE (only 3/9 judges gave it ) 

 

 

Beautiful jump and such a beautiful skate! Truly remarkable. And in this cam you can see the suit is so shiny, so so shiny 
Judges can take a hike, we know what is good, we are not blind. Shame on them only.

Beautiful Yuzu!

[memae]

Even TSL had things to say about the judging of Yuzu's elements at SC. They even called out the specific judges who didn't give +5 for his SP 4S. 

 

Someone on here had the idea of separating the judges for the separate scores of TES and PCS and ever since I've thought it the most simple, brilliant possible solution. I wish ISU would at least consider trialing it 

[Crow]

Yeah I also thought separating the panels for TES and PCS could be a good idea until they started talking about separating medals, we can not have that.

[FlyingCamel]

I feel like everyone (besides Yuzu antis) does find the 40+ points gap between Yuzu and Nathan at GPF really fishy tbh

Sadly biased judging is not new at all in figure skating and this problem isn’t specific to Yuzu too, there has been many instances of questionable judging e.g. Sochi 2014, Salt Lake 2002 etc and not to mention the small fed skaters  

[Umebachi]

5 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

I mostly agree with this. Yuzu's been skating a long time, and scoring has never been fair. If he couldn't handle unfair scoring, he would never have lasted in the sport. 

 

That being said, I still want to see the scoring become more fair and objective. Not just for Yuzu, but for everybody. Particularly I would like to see an end to Rusflation. 

 

And guys, it's a given that Yuzu has a sports psychologist or has worked with one in the past. Every top athlete does. Mastering the mental game is an essential component of high performance sport. Yuzu knows this better than anyone.

 

He's worn out and tired in this interview, for whatever reason. That doesn't mean he's on the verge of a breakdown. Why can't he just have an off day without everyone panicking? He needs a hug and someone to tell him it'll get better, for sure. But maybe that's all he needs right now. Or maybe he does need a therapist. Either way, it's not ours to speculate about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was being flippant in my earlier response, but in all seriousness, I am very glad that he is in Canada with TCC - where the entire team seems to be dedicated to offering a safe and supportive environment.  That's why you need a multi-disciplinary team, not individual coaches dictating all aspects of the athlete's life.  This being Canada, I would expect TCC athletes to have access to some of the best sports medicine as well as sports psychology specialists.  When Yuzu had discovered he had lisfranc injury in 2016, he had initial assessments done in Japan but it was reported on Japanese media that he went back to Canada immediately thereafter because they have great sports therapists in Toronto.  This was not related to mental health but in Japan there is a general recognition that Yuzu is receiving excellent care in Canada from physical and mental perspectives.   TCC probably offers a far better environment than any of the clubs in Japan, where old ways still linger and probably not enough attention is paid to sports psychology.  The situation is definitely improving in many other sports in Japan.  Tennis and baseball come to mind  perhaps because athletes in these fields also train in North America and are up to date on modern science, and ofc they have much more money to access top experts.  Figure skating seems to be lagging in this respect.  That's why I am also relieved to see Shoma in Champery with a coach who seems to place a lot of emphasis on balanced mental conditioning.   Ofc, Shoma had very supportive and caring coaches in Japan, but this was clearly not sufficient, and he needed a different environment.  

[Sombreuil]

Given that knowing the way his fans freak out over everything surely adds enormously to the pressure he’s under and that he seems to lurk, open expressions of extreme worry and upset over interviews is probably not helpful.  Can we just accept that he was exhausted from all that travelling and put most of that interview down to that?   Support is the thing, not piling extra baggage on to what’s already there.  
 

Spoiler

Therapy - can be useful but I know from bitter experience that it’s not a magic solution and is totally ineffective if the individual isn’t committed to the process

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