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  1. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat

    Igor Bobrin spoke about Yuzu a bit in his interview. I will shortly translate his words, but you can google-translate them if you like

    https://www.sport-express.ru/figure-skating/reviews/chto-proishodit-s-medvedevoy-kto-vyigraet-olimpiadu-2022-goda-intervyu-igorya-bobrina-1677254/

    Spoiler

    Ханю у Тутберидзе? Он вряд ли будет ввязываться в авантюру

    — Вы работали до Олимпиады в Сочи с Юдзуру Ханю, вокруг которого существует ореол мистики. Каким он вам показался?

    — Он несколько раз приезжал в Москву, не говорил тогда по-русски, только слабо по-английски. Но я всегда в его глазах видел отсутствие безразличия, он подъезжал и уже спрашивал взглядом: «Что так, что не так?» Ему всегда хочется сделать больше. Можно сделать 200, 300 прыжков — но потом начинается пофигизм. Человеку надоедает монотонность. Желание для фигуриста — самое важное.

    Ханю остается уникальным, такой, как он, появится нескоро. Не все так, как он, умеют любить фигурное катание. ISU думает, как изменить правила, повышать ли возрастной ценз, про артистическую программу — а его программы до сих пор у меня вызывают слезы умиления. Посмотрите на его лицо. Он со своей аскетичностью может даже без движения лица показать много эмоций. Это талант. Если у человека есть потребность не только в техническом, но и в чувственном самовыражении, даже японский спортсмен может нам показать пример того, как надо кататься для зрителя.

    — Говорите «даже», потому что эмоциональность не свойственна японской культуре?

    — Да, их поведение мы прекрасно увидели по коронавирусной проблеме — они послушные. Если я прихожу тренировать японца, я становлюсь для него гуру, сэнсеем — человеком, который пришел делать добро. Не только в спорте, а в производстве, где угодно. Я никогда не забуду, как во время нашего отъезда из Сочи он позвонил, попросил проехать через их гостиницу. Вышла его команда вместе с руководителем федерации и молча синхронно отвесила поклон. Так трогательно меня никогда не благодарили. Работники отеля были в большем шоке, чем я.

    — Почему прекратилось сотрудничество?

    — Он уехал в Канаду к Орсеру, там своя команда, свои принципы. Но я вижу, как он в своих программах до сих пор применяет наши с ним наработки.

    — В прошлом сезоне, когда Орсер не приехал с Ханю на финал «Гран-при», в соцсетях рассуждали — а не перейти ли ему к Тутберидзе? Получился бы тандем, как думаете? Сема Уно же пытался.

    — Японцы — мудрые и осторожные люди, ввязываться в авантюры они не будут. У Ханю прекрасный тренер и команда. Думаю, он нашел свою нишу в этой компании. Вместе с ним ездит его мама, как ангел-хранитель. Он не один, у него много друзей. И у него нет повода переходить, он даже с возрастом всем дает фору. Думаю, его боятся.

    Hanyu with Tutberidze. I don't see him taking the risk. 

     

    Before the Sochi Olympics you worked with Yuzuru Hanyu, who has a halo of mystique about him, what did you think of him? 

    He came several times to Moscow, he didn't speak Russian, and spoke only poor English. But I always saw a complete absence of indifference in his eyes, he always skated up and asked with his glance "What was right and what was wrong?" He always wants to do more. You can do 200, 300 jumps, but then you stop caring. A human being gets tired of monotony. A will and desire is the most important thing for a skater. 

    Hanyu remains unique, we won't be getting another such skater soon. Not everyone is capable of loving figure skating the way he does. ISU thinks how to change rules, whether to raise age limit, about the artistic program - and it's his programs which make me cry with emotion and tenderness. Look at his face. While being ascetic, he can show many emotions even without moving his face. That's talent. If a person has a need of exhibiting not only their technical, but also their emotional, sensitive aspect, even a Japanese athlete can be an example of how a skater should skate for the audience watching them. 

     

    Are you saying"even' because you think emotionality isn't a feature in Japanese culture? 

    - Yes, we saw their behaviour in the coronavirus situation - they are obedient. If I start training a Japanese, I become a guru, a sensei for them - a person who is only going to benefit them. Not only in sport, but in production too, everywhere. I will never forget that when we were leaving Sochi, he rang us, and asked to visit them in the hotel. His whole team along with the head of the federation came out and silently and synchronously bowed to us. I've never been thanked in such a touching manner. The hotel staff were much more shocked than I was. 

     

    -Why did you stop collaborating? 

    He went over to Canada to Orser, and he has his own team there and their own principles. But I see him using our practices in his programs still. 

     

    -Last season when Orser didn't come with Hanyu to the GPF, there were talks in social networks whether he should go over to Tutberidze. Do you think they could work along? Shoma Uno did try, after all. 

    The Japanese are wise and cautious, they won't take reckless risks. Hanyu has a great coach and a great team. I think he has found his niche in that company. His mother goes everywhere with him and acts like his guardian angel. He isn't alone, he has many friends. And he has no reason to get to another coach, he even gets better with age and outdoes everyone. I think people fear him. 


  2. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat

    Please appreciate these masterpieces in their original forms :tumblr_inline_n18qr5lPWB1qid2nw:

    Edit: Google Drive links for a compiled video of the original

    Also another side-by-side video

     


  3. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat
    18 hours ago, IceWings said:

     

    Do you mean this one?

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/av14865496/

     

    It doesn't have the English subtitles though. :cry:  I loved the one on YouTube with the EngSub. I discovered it when I was a pretty new fanyu, and I thought it was hilarious and soooo accurate. I hope someone has a link to the English-subbed one.

     

    Not nearly as good as an English subtitled video, but these are the English words that I transcribed from the subtitled video that I downloaded. I made some minor edits to the original subtitled English.

     

    The English title for the video is:

     

    50 WAYS TO FAN YUZURU HANYU

     

    Here comes October again

    and I become a (new) fan of Hanyu

    I try to catch up with old fans (regarding information about Yuzu)

    How to fan Yuzuru Hanyu correctly?

    By lying down or standing up?

    Finally we should all kneel down and worship his highness

    Then it's time to join a fan group for resources

    Firstly watch all his competitions and news

    There are live shows, interviews and documentaries

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    My face bursting into flames (nosebleed)

    I blame the sexy Yuzu from FaOI

    Searching around for FaOI brochure

    And buy all the magazines, photo books and Blue Flame

    OH GOD! OH GOD! Then scan all pics to my computer

    Those super fans release their photos again!

    There are no lyrics here – make something up yourself – so sorry! (Actual subtitles!)

    Translate news and articles

    Make your own (Yuzu) goods and paint Angel Yuzu

    Buy the same necklace as Yuzu

    So you can meet other Yuzu fans occasionally

    Group together and go crazy for Yuzu

    Bring photos and have dinner together

    Then kneel down together and worship his performance together (in front of TV)

    Exchange different experiences as Yuzu fans

    Those super fans have made him a song

    Or made him videos

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    Let’s play the music he performed in the competition

    Listen to them on Yuzu earphones

    And when time flies

    You will find yourself sitting in the venues or watching the competitions sitting in front of your TV

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    (I was) too focused watching Yuzu and my mobile dropped on my face!

    Calculating the score results

    NO LYRICS – how can this music be that long? (Actual subtitles!)

    IT'S YOU AGAIN! J5! JUDGE!

    Go to Sendai to change my mood

    Take as many photos as I can

    (I) want to meet coach Nanami and Mr. Yoshida

    Then (go to) pray for Yuzu at Yuzuru-Ha shrine

    Collect all music from the competitions

    Collect all the videos

    Its time to buy a new mobile with a larger drive

    Tons of NEWS!

    Thumbs up for GIF!

    Manage Photoshop

    Sign up for twi, weibo and Yuzuru Planet

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    Mastered all kinds of skills

    Use self-made poster to promote him

    Hold up banner wishing he would see it

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    Does he see it? (He does and he winks in the picture)

    Speechless for the excitement!

    With a crazy big laugh on my face

    (I) become crazy every time I think of him!

    OH GOD! OH GOD!

    In the greatest time of my life!

    I become a fan of Yuzuru Hanyu

    Today is another Happy Yuzu Day


  4. MADs: Fan-made Videos
    MADs: Fan-made Videos

    Have these been put up anywhere?  Split screen comparisons of some of the CiONTU performances and the originals:

    Etude (that costume will never ever not be breathcatching...)

     

     

    Zigeunerweisen:

     

    Mission Impossible (god he was such a baby then...)

     

    and my favourite so far, R&J1 with 6 years between them...

     

     


  5. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat
    21 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

    Yes please! 

     

    16 hours ago, amylance1215 said:

    Yes yes yes!!! We would be so blessed~ 

    Thank you in advance :tumblr_inline_n18qr5lPWB1qid2nw:

     

    Here it is!!!

     

    I decided to edit it immediately and upload it on my GDrive. I recorded the video in 1080p and you are free to download it, if you like. I just hope that the LGC track won't cause me any trouble :tumblr_inline_mqt4grU8ua1qz4rgp:

     

    Some annotations:

    1. I overlayed all sequences with the original music track, so there are no commentary voices, screams, clapping or other distracting background sounds.

    2. Programs that Yuzu used for multiple seasons are only included once, so PW, Ballade and Seimei will appear a bit later in the montage (don't worry, they are still there :68468287:).

    3. I was really torn to put the R&J step sequence from Nice with the legendary fall into the clip, but at the end I picked a different version with the planned choreo. *gomen*

     

     

    EDIT: I just saw that the clip of PW has weird quality, so I'm re-uploading a new version. It should be online in ca. 30 minutes soon :13877886:

    My editor hates me today.

     

     


  6. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat
    19 hours ago, Fay said:

     

     

    Hi everyone, I thought this interview was very insightful (with regards to Tracy, Yuzu and TCC), so I have made a transcript of it for everyone who don't have the time to listen. Enjoy! :)

     

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    Jack: Hello and welcome to the Ice Time Podcast. I am your host, Jack Gallagher. Today we have a very special guest, that is Tracy Wilson, the former champion ice dancer and one of Yuzuru Hanyu's coaches. Tracy, how are you today?

     

    Tracy: I am actually... I am great, thank you. I am happy to be in Japan and it was so wonderful to witness Yuzu skating at home. A big competition for him, and he had injuries the last couple of years in his Grand Prixs, so it was key for him to stay healthy to get to the next round for the Grand Prix Final. He is just going to another place, I think we thought we have seen the best of him, and the best is yet to come. 

     

    Jack: OK Tracy, let me ask you this. Can you explain your role in the Brian, Ghislain, Tracy triangle? Just to understand better.

     

    Tracy: So when Yuzuru first came to Toronto, he was working with Brian as the head coach, technique and myself on the skating skills and balance. That's what we do. I try to come up with all kinds of exercises for him to practice, to train, to make sure in terms of his balance, control, the technique across the ice, because if you are not balanced going into a jump, three of four steps before, often you can't. So yeah, we work on that, we work on the artistry, general flow and ease across the ice, all of the stuff between the jumps. 

     

    Jack: Alright, let me ask you, if there anything that we don't know about Yuzu that you can disclose?

     

    Tracy: I can tell you, he is such a student of the sport. He never stops learning. He is like a sponge. We will do a stroking class, Brian and I, with a group of the skaters, and he will be right at the front, and he will be wanting to understand that, and the other skaters are so inspired by him, but also he is such a leader that way. I look at Yuzuru at the high level that he is at, and he wants to go higher. For him, there is such a love of the sport and the challenge I think we all know that he has an incredible gift, but he takes full responsibility for it. He has such a respect for the sport, it's like redefine what's possible. That's one of my philosophies in skating. It's like OK, this is what we do, we redefine what's possible, while (chuckle) Yuzu is just taking it to another level.     

     

    Jack: Right I remember when he won NHK Trophy three years ago, I sat directly behind him on the bus on the way back to the hotel, and I said, 'God, he must be exhausted', but he doesn't seem worried. He talked skating with the person sitting next to him the entire way back to the hotel, and I just thought, this is incredible. 

     

    Tracy: It is... and he does. He will come off the ice, and then we will want to sit and talk. It's in his bones, he's remarkable. I don't think we have ever seen a skater like him, and I don't know if we will ever see. I mean, it's magic what he does, and we get to witness it at The Cricket Club too on a regular basis in all the years. He has been with us for eight years now. I've seen him more driven, but he has also got a control now and confidence. That's what makes him so successful.

     

    Jack: We were in PyeongChang, I mean that was just incred... I saw him with gold in Sochi, I saw him with gold in PyeongChang, I mean that was just an incredible moment. What was it like to be inside there?

     

    Tracy: For us, for me as a coach, to watch him, in especially something like the Olympics, knowing what it means for him, there is a lot of tension, because you know how quickly it can go, and you are watching to see how he is going to handle it, so of course, elation afterwards, absolute elation. But you have to remember, at the Olympics, he was injured going in, and he didn't have the benefit of months of practice. He had weeks of practice, he had to really save himself, and strategy came into play, he is brilliant that way. That, for me was like, once it was over, elation, but not going through it, because you just didn't know.

     

    Jack: It was just... like you said, it was even more dramatic because of that. Now, you're also a broadcaster, how does that work? I mean, you schedule must be really busy, you have coaching, you have children. How do you make that work?

     

    Tracy: When I started, I was in the TV business right after I think in the 1990, after the Calgary Olympics, I moved into TV, and I raised a family, and then it wasn't until Brian Orser and I got together and talked about helping the Cricket Club find some new coaches, so this was about 14 years ago. We went for 3 months to help them build a coaching team and we fell in love with it and stayed. Yuna came, Javi came, Yuzuru. Gradually, I got more and more involved, but initially I would work in terms of philosophy and organising the club and doing the stroking sessions. I would be the coach when Brian was on the road, I would train the athletes. Since that time I move more out of broadcasting because of PyeongChang, we knew to do service to both Javi and Yuzu, they needed more and I had been with them both for so many years, so I've moved more into coaching. 

     

    Jack: I want to ask you just to clear up, you're not related to David Wilson?

     

    Tracy: I am not, except that we are best friends.

     

    Jack: David is a friend of mine, he's a great guy, he's over in Spain now with Javier, and he's posting all the stuff on Facebook... You are special yourself but you are surrounded by some incredible people. Do you ever think about that?

     

    Tracy: Always, always. When we went to the club, Brian and I talked about, for me it was creating an energy, a learning environment and a place for skating to grow. Brian and I, as athletes, we are very much about building team, camaraderie, building a skating community. We have many great friends from around the world because of that. When we took on the coaching role, it was about power skating, learn to skate, adult skating, and then all the other levels. We wanted it to be international, we wanted it to be where you can re-imagine what was possible. Our first student was Yuna, who came in to do choreography with David Wilson, was learning triple axels with Brian, and then started working with me on the technique, and so it was the three of us. We kept saying, if we build it, if we create this kind of energy, and it's not about necessarily being the most successful, the most winning, it's not about that. It's excellence, it's about pushing yourself and as I said, we saw what Yuna did, Javi, brilliant, and each skater is so different. They are such individuals, and we have to make room for that. Javi and Yuzu are completely different, and so, we learn from them, we redefine what's possible in terms of how we see it. Yuzu, has just taken the sport to a new level and again, he is a treasure. 

     

    Jack: When Brian first took on Yuna, he had expressed that he had some concerns about whether he could do it or not. Did you have to convince him?

     

    Tracy: Totally. I just said I got your back, Brian, I am with you on this with everything. You know 'Brian you can do it'. It was really easy for me as he was the one who was front and centre but it was like 'c'mon', and we really... Brian and I have been good friends for many many years since he and my partner were good friends, and so tremendous support meant a world for Brian and we balance each other. We are totally different, but what unites us is our love of people and our love of skating. 

     

    Jack: You were a world medalist as a ice dancer. Do you employ that when you are working with Yuzu, because he likes ice dancing?

     

    Tracy: I learned so much in ice dance. I was a skater who was late getting into it, I was 18 or 19. I ended up with Rob McCall who was a Canadian champion and I competed in Seniors once and didn't do very well. I had to learn so much and so fast to keep up with Rob and to be worthy of that partnership. Anyway, I learned so much with ice dance. We were doing 6 hours a day because remember in those days, we were doing compulsory dances that were so technical, and we had to do endless amounts of repetitions, so we would have to do three or four patterns of this dance, and then if you didn't have excellent technique, you lost speed, because there was nowhere to gain it. Who we were competing against, had the exact same steps to the same music, so it's how you did it. At the time, I thought it was so interesting, so exciting and I thought it's too bad, I wouldn't be able to use this. Sure enough, yes, I use it for strategy coming out of a corner, how do you quickly build speed out of a corner without wasting energy, I use it with balance or with the ice dance. I also have worked with hockey players in Toronto and some top NHL players and they come at it from purely power. They don't care how you look like, it's purely power, and I learned from them too. So it's just a really cool thing and I just feel like the luckiest person in the world that I can pass this love of mine on, and the skaters find some of it useful.

     

    Jack: I have heard that many NHL players want to improve their skating and they have turned to figure skating coaches, right? (Tracy: Yes) That's really interesting.


    Tracy: Yes, it's all about learning. You learn from everybody. I learned... I have adult skaters who question me on things, question me on skate... you know usually the younger skaters they just want to go, it's like 'Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah', but the adults would 'Why would you say that?' and it really refines your coaching technique. You learn from everything.

     

    Jack: How young is your youngest skater now?

     

    Tracy: Ah... I work with a number of skaters at the club, so umm... (Jack: What I mean, do you have years under 10 or any other younger?) They are around 10, yup, we have a group that is around 10 and yup. (Jack: What about your older skaters? How old would that person be? Ah... 82. (Jack: Wow...) and you know what, that's beautiful, it really is. I do an adult class each week, and Brian does an adult class each week. 

     

    Jack: That's amazing. Now, we saw (somebody's name I could not get who he's saying) in his thirties, he's still skating. Yuzu is only 24, he's going to be 25 next month, and I mean, can he go on infinitely?

     

    Tracy: It depends on Yuzu, because I would have said he couldn't compete at the level he did at the Olympics with the amount of training he had, so he proved me wrong, and I didn't know how, after two Olympic Golds, you'd find the motivation to continue. I have never seen him more motivated, and determined. So, we will see with Yuzu, it depends what the sports is asking. With the value they place on the quads, it will take a toll on a skater's body, and so depending on how, going forward, the weight between artistry and the sport, which the sport really tries to hold that, so I mean it would depend on that, but Yuzu has learned the hard way with injuries, and he has been very very focused this year.

     

    Jack: What is an average day for you when you are at the club? Like what time do you get there...

     

    Tracy: I do everything from ice dance. We have a Japanese dance team now, Shingo and Yutana, so I can be on the ice helping out at six-thirty / seven in the morning and then I teach an adult. It really depends. I pace myself, and it depends on the time of year. In the spring, I would do a lot more group work. When coaches are on the road, sometimes, then I would be on early in the morning till later in the day. But what I try to protect, for me, is my love of skating, and that I don't overdo it that it becomes a job, and I manage it that way. Really, there is no typical day for me, it would depend on how I need it, but I feel like I have got 5 hours of good work in me max.

     

    Jack: How old are your children?

     

    Tracy: 28, 26 and 23. 

     

    Jack: I thought they were like teenagers!

     

    Tracy: No no no, that's why I have started coaching work.

     

    Jack: I am not gonna disclose our ages, but I looked it up and I am 5 days ahead of you.

     

    Tracy: Oh is that right? You're September? (Jack: Yes yes) and I share with Mao Asada. (Jack: Oh that's right.) Yeah so we are just 48 then, you and I. (Jack: There you go.)      

     

    Jack: OK, we are about to wrap it up here, and just tell me one more thing about Yuzu. What would you think, what would you say is his greatest trait? His physical ability? His mental ability? His fortitude? If you could sum it up in one sentence.

     

    Tracy: He has... I don't think you can sum it up in one sentence, because people have this incredible talent, Yuzu has that incredible talent, Yuzu has the respect for the sport, and a sense of responsibility and purpose, and I just feel like he's always had that and he cares about his audience, he cares about putting on a show for them, his fans... so it's that combination that he has that it is so rare, and he's a student of the sport.

     

    Jack: Yeah, I mean he is patient, when you get to be that famous, it's probably easier to just block everybody out but he seems to show incredible patience with everybody. 

     

    Tracy: He does, yes he does, even the kids at the rink. The other day, he was helping one of our boys who's 14 with his triple axel. He just saw him and he went over. He's remarkable. 

     

    Jack: Tracy, thank you so much, best of luck, and we gonna have you back on this podcast again, I guarantee it. Thank you.

     

    Tracy: OK thanks Jack. 

     

     

     

         

     

                              


  7. Otonal
    Otonal

    I made a thing :)

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  8. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat
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    This is some interesting talk btw Scott Russel and PJ Kwong. Scott is saying about most memorable performance in his 17 years old experience as sport reporter/commentator/analyst, and he mention one-two sentence about Virtue/Moir,  Patrick Chan (fantastic in his hey day), Duhammel/Radford,  Papadakis/Cizeron, and also this quite long confession:
     

    "I'll throw in one more because he is a good Ontario guy. And that's because he trains part time in Ontario. But you have to be in the rink, if you are ever fortunate enough, all you people out there, to be in the rink when Yuzuru Hanyu skates. If you can be in the rink, he is, I mean, takes your breath away. The guy is that good. And he is so committed mentally and physically to what he does that he leaves -- you know there is an old expression leave everything on the table, around the field, on the play, around the ice -- he leaves everything on the ice. I don't know if I have ever seen a guy like that."


    They talk more about Yuzu's intense personality. And then they are talking about how fun it is when two titans are pitted against each other like Yuzu vs Nathan in 2019. And then about what it was like with Yuzu vs Javi in 2015. 

    The overall discussion is also very interesting, and it explains more or less what happen btw CBC and ISU.


  9. Nobunari Oda resigns as coach from Kansai University due to "moral harassment"
    Nobunari Oda resigns as coach from Kansai University due to "moral harassment"

    Have some Max and Angelo to take the taste away

     


  10. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat

    For everyone who is interested in Yuzu's scoring data of the 2018/19 season. I've created a table with average GOE/success rates and calls/LV for every element:

     

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    It's the sequel of a very similar table for all of his elements under the +/-3 System from 2015/16 to 2017/18. You can look at it here as a comparison:

     

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  11. General Yuzuru Chat
    General Yuzuru Chat

     

    Yuzu's Worlds 2019 FS: Hungarian commentary with English subtitles

     

    Commentators: Andras Rosnik, Tamas Vasarhelyi

     

    These two guys are really knowledgeable and praise Yuzu highly... and they speak the truth! This is what they said about Yuzu after his performance:

     

    "...and his transitions in his skating are so clean and detailed that if in the first score, the technical score, Nathan is able to do that is the same or similar to this technical level, even that, because of the second mark, I find it highly possible that he'll be the world champion."

     

    "This is not really human what he did."


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