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    18 minutes ago, Sabrina said:

    I found a summery of the latest docu about yuzu online

     

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    Another Story NHK Documentary Summary

    Intro:
    Yuzuru’s LP performance and hug with Javi
    How did he achieve the defense (of the Gold) after severe injury and being away from the ice for 4 months? The key to the truth is here in this moment before the Medal Ceremony.
    Yuzu, Javi, Shoma hug and Yuzu saying ‘You are so bad!’ The tears do not stop
    The never before revealed moving story can finally be shown
    1:30 Opening Credits
    1:50 How difficult it must be to bring the body and mind to its peak for the once in 4 years Olympics.
    Kulik, Yagudin, Plushenko, Lysacek who stood at the top of the podium countless times only won the Olympics once. Yuzuru Hanyu is the one who was able to achieve the defense of his Olympic title.
    2:45 Introduction of Yuzu’s history, starting skating at 4 and wanting to win the Olympics.
    At 19, at the Sochi Olympics he was able win, but didn’t stop there. He had the high, high aim of defending his title. But just before the Peyonchang Olympics he was injured. Some doubted he would be able to compete. But when he stood on the Olympic stage again, in an instant he turned all doubt into excitement.

    4:29 Feburary 17th, 2018 was a crossroads with destiny.
    In his first time to skate his LP in competition since his injury four months ago, his quads, his steps, so sharply executed, an astounding performance that made you think he’d never been away, caused oohs and ahhs from not just the Japanese fans, but also the top skaters around the world.
    5:17 Plushenko’s comment
    With this, Yuzuru became the ultimate competitor, the best of the best.
    5:36 Fernandez’ comment
    He took the gold, but there are no regrets. At the greatest stage, fought with the greatest performance, I’m totally content.

    5:55 First Point of View: Dick Button
    6:30- The Living Legend, Dick Button, 89 years old, lives in the New York suburbs. What’s this casually lying on his desk? Could it be?
    “I gave my 1948 medal to my mother, who made a necklace of it. My next Olympic medal I gave to my father, who made it into a paperweight. I’m glad I’ve got two.”
    What a nice, cheerful Grandpa…or so we thought!
    “Plushenko?? Amazing technique, but I wish he’d listen to me earlier. His spins were excessive, too many turns. His head stuck out I was sure it would one day spin off onto the ice.”
    “Kulik? Worst costume ever. Yellow with black dots, you’re not a giraffe! Well, because of that, it can’t be denied that you couldn’t take your eyes off him.” Laughter.
    8:28-Dick button was known as an acerbic commentator and he made his opinions known for many years. What would he think of Hanyu who after 66 years matched his record? We nervously asked his opinion and…
    8:46 “The result is an extra, my judging criteria is whether or not the performance has a sense of theatre. Theatre that is original and draws people in.”
    “Hanyu Yuzuru’s performance was wonderful in that way. It enthralled everyone.”


    9:26 Dick Button talks about his performance and other great skaters of the past
    “This footage is from my competition in Colorado in 1952. I think I’m skating quite well.”
    Sharp jumps, centered spins. The worlds first triple jump was landed by Button.
    10:13 “There’s not enough opportunity for skaters these days to change skating. They are bound by the points system, it’s confining and none of the athletes want to try new elements.”
    Not Hanyu, starting with the 4Lo, he’s implemented never-before done elements.
    But, to Button, their main commonality is something unexpected.
    “What Yuzuru said after the Sochi Olympics left a deep impression on me. He said that he couldn’t skate well. ”
    11:00 Shows clips of Yuzuru’s Sochi LP in which he fell twice.
    In an interview right after the results were announced he said:
    “I’m really happy with the results, but I’m also feeling regret. (Kuyashii, frustration) Well, though I say it having won the Olympics, I feel a little regret.”
    Dick Button:
    “I too, in 1948, my performance was good. I was able to win with a wonderful performance. But the next Olympics 1952, though as an athlete I was at my peak, I fell on a jump, it was the greatest mistake of my life. Even now, I regret it.”
    12:00 Shows time line of Dick Buttons dominance in the sport. From 1948-1952. Won every international competition he entered.
    12:27 You won your second Gold Medal in 1952, is winning not enough?
    “No. you ask why? Because I fell. The rules now give you points even when you fail. When that happened, I think figure skating died.
    Above (or before?) being a sport of points, Figure skating is a sport that engages the audience. An orchestra, if you miss a note, it’s ruined, like ballet when a dancer falls, it’s the same. You mustn’t disappoint the audience, come on! That’s why I was moved by Yuzuru’s words. This young man, he understands!”
    Hanyu's FCC Press Conference 2014
    “I will devote myself with my whole heart towards the Pyeongchang Olympics in four Years”
    Hanyu, going forth, to once more achieve Gold with a satisfactory performance…

    13:30 In the four years, young athletes emerged, one after the other. Nathan Chen, Jin Boyang and Uno Shoma. All of them had many quadruple jumps as weapon.

    14:8 “Quads, quads, so what? This guy that guy, goes after the points like wringing a rag for water. I don’t want to see such ugly things. What I want to see is, for example Janet Lynn. She jumped so lightly; long distance and quiet in landing. That’s a real jump.
    14:35 Janet Lynn competition footage.
    15:17 “Do you know who taught her? My exwife! There’s a lot of things between us, but she was a good coach. Janet’s performance is seamless. Everything is controlled, the jumps match the music and are simple. Her skating is quintessential theatre.”
    “Another that we mustn’t forget is Ito Midori. She was, in a different way from Janet, superb theatre. She commanded attention. No one can jump as high as that.”
    “And Asada Mao, wasn’t she gorgeous; a movie star on ice, no other athlete could do that performance like she did. But even compared to these famous athletes, Hanyu is extraordinary an exceptional person.
    He performs like nothing you’ve ever seen before. Performances that, if you miss them you’ll never see again. That’s what has worth. No matter how difficult the element, the skater must make it their own. Doing the same kinds of jumps, there’s no inspiration in mere points.”

    17:04 A short history of skating and how it started from figures drawn on the ice with skates.

    Back then performances were one third of a skaters score. Dick Button still pioneered new elements. Triple jumps, and the flying camel spin used to be called Button Camel.
    17:50 “I did the camel spin to move people’s hearts, to add dynamism to otherwise elegant, effortless skating, to capture attention.
    Yuzuru can (emotionally) move people beyond points. He was injured before the Olympics, and I just wanted to see him come back. A true skater.”

    18:18 Dick Button watches Hanyu’s Pyeongchang Prorgram
    News clip of Yuzu’s injury and withdrawal from NHK trophy, arrival at PyeongChang 5 days before competition.
    Practice footage of Yuzu. Nobody knew how much Yuzuru had recovered
    18:58 Olympics SP footage.
    19:50 Olympics LP footage.
    20:17 “The most important point to look at in his jumps is the speed. There’s no change in the speed of the jump when it’s landed compared to when it’s entered. That’s rare in a skater. He doesn’t show off when he’s landed to say ‘look, I’ve landed it!’ When other skaters land a difficult jump there’s a sense of ending. He seamlessly, simply continues the performance.
    21:06 When Yuzuru overturned his 4T in the second half.
    “Uh oh, but he did well not to fall. He’s made progress.
    After the 3Lz
    “He just recovered from injury right? He’s hanging on really well. Honestly, even if he fell once, points-wise, he could still win. But he knows the importance of engaging the audience.
    22:00 Performance ends, Dick button laughs,
    “He’s satisfied at last. I understand the feeling. That was really wonderful.”
    22:30 Q: How did he change since the last Olympics?
    “The performance was much more riveting; more simple but more clearly communicating. The points don’t matter. On this great stage(Olympics), he showed the best ‘theatre’. This is beyond Gold, a Diamond grade performance.



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    Another Story NHK Documentary Summary Pt2

    Second Point of Veiw: Evgeni Plushenko
    66 years after Dick Button defended his title, Hanyu Yuzuru also won consecutively. But the person who came closest to also achieving this was this person.
    Evgeni Plushenko the Torino Olympics Gold Medalist.
    He was a favorite to win in Vancouver, but was beaten by a small margin. He, above all others, knows how hard it is to win consecutively (at the Olympics). Plushenko has been someone who Yuzuru has respected and aspired to for many years. How does he view Hanyu Yuzuru who challenged the consecutive wins that he could not achieve?
    Another Story from the Figure Skating Emperor.
    24:04 Footage of Moscow and Evgeni Plushenko at the Plushenko cup, watching young skaters under 10 years old, and his own son compete.
    “Lots of mistakes, we’ll need to do special training on the camel spin”
    Strict words for his son, Alexander Plushenko who is 5 years old. There is a reason for this.
    “This competition is for scouting young talent, and inviting them to get special education at my school. So no matter who it is, we are strict from this stage. At this point the goal is to defeat Hanyu Yuzuru. To raise an athlete that will surpass him.”

    25:34 Debuting in Seniors in 1997, for 20 years till his retirement in 2017, the emperor, Plushenko, trained on the ice. Hanyu strongly admired him, and when he was a child, even copied his hairstyle.
    “I first met him when he was about 10, at a show in Japan. 'This kid really admires you.' I was astonished at first sight. His spins were good. But he was so thin. If he was built up, he could get good results, I thought. But I didn’t have an inkling that he’d go on to win two Olympic Golds.”
    26:31 Plushenko’s timeline, the 4 Olympics he attended. 2 Individual silvers, 1 gold, 1 team gold.

    12 years difference between Plushenko and Hanyu. Their first opportunity to skate against each other was at the Sochi Olympics.
    Three and a half years before that, Hanyu, who debuted as a Senior at 15…

    Footage of Hanyu’s NHK2010 performance and the Quad Toe he landed.
    Footage of 2012 LP at NHK where he won

    27:40 “He’s climbing, I thought. A great rival for Sochi has been made. No matter how long you know someone, on the rink, they are the enemy. If it’s him (Hanyu) it will be a worthy victory.” (The word is taoshigai. Not sure about this translation)

    28:05 There is a reason behind Plushenko’s excitement at Hanyu’s arrival, it goes back to the previous Olympics and a great disappointment.
    28:16 Footage of Plushenko at the Vancouver Olympics
    Previously, Plushenko, who had won the Olympics at Torino attempted the defense of his title, which would have been the first in 58 years. He was confident that he had won, but by a mere point he did not reach the consecutive win.
    28:30 “At Vancouver I was injured all over. It was a miracle I was able to compete at all. It’s frustrating that I lost, and I am unhappy with the scoring. But If I had not competed there, it would have been a worse competition. At that time, there weren’t many competitors, and they’d retire quickly, when they could have skated more. More than my disappointment in losing, I was disappointed that rivals to compete with were getting fewer and fewer.
    29:25 Plushenko won Olympic Silver twice. The athletes that took gold, Yagudin and Lysacek did not attempt to defend their title, but left the competitive stage.
    29:40 “It’s not like I don’t understand those who retire. When you get to the level where you compete for medals, it’s extremely tough to maintain. Getting fed up with the suffering, those who medal at the Olympics and Worlds choose to retire. When they skate in shows, they introduce you as so-and-so, the medalist. Because of that, the level of competition at the Olympics gets lowered. You’re quitting too, and you? That was frustrating.”
    30:12 Because of this, when the strong rival Yuzuru Hanyu appeared, Plushenko was encouraged.
    "How to beat him (Hanyu) on the ice, to shock him, to knock him down, that’s all I thought about”
    30:41 From this glaring fighting spirit, Hanyu responded with all his might.
    (From Hanyu’s first autobiography, Blue Flames)
    I don’t know if I can surpass him. But no matter how high a level I go to, having other strong competitors fires me up. I want to be that person to Plushenko, ‘a person who fires you up’ even if only a little, I want to get closer to being that (person).

    31:15 Sochi Olympics, 2014, their wishes were not granted.
    “The bolt that was supporting my lower back came loose at practice before the competition. Never before have I felt such pain. Performing was impossible.”
    31:50 Footage of Plushenko withdrawing
    31:56 Footage of Hanyu receiving the gold medal at Sochi
    32:11 “When Yuzuru won the gold in Sochi and said he wouldn’t retire, and would go to the next (Olympics) I was jumping with joy. Even if I left, he would continue to compete and the greatest competition, the Olympics would maintain its high level. Yuzuru knows the best performances can only be done in competition and there is no greater joy than becoming the Olympic Champion.”
    32:39 Hanyu received the baton from Plushenko and started for the Pyeonchang Olympics. In the 4 years that came between, younger athletes appeared, but whenever he was asked about it Plushenko always answered ‘the contender for gold is Hanyu’.
    32:57 “ A lot of times, competitors mess up, and the Olympics gives a special kind of nerves or adrenaline. Having won gold once, puts you ahead. The important thing is not the elements, but experience and confidence. And the only one who had both was Yuzuru. Even now, having won consecutively, he hasn’t stopped evolving. The top athletes are the greediest, there’s no way they’ll lose. I know from personal experience how hard it is to win consecutively, but if anyone was going to do it in the whole world, it would be Yuzuru. That’s why I know at that Olympics, if Yuzuru could make it there, there was no way he wouldn’t win.” (literal translation ‘if he can just stand in that place’)
    34:00 If he can just make it there…we now know that Plushenko’s prophecy came true, but up till that moment, we didn’t know if he could stand.



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    Another Story NHK Documentary Summary Pt3

    News article of injury at NHK trophy
    A serious right ankle injury Hanyu had to contend with.
    A great support to him during that time was fellow gold medal rival, this man:
    Javier Fernandez
    34:47
    Just before the Olympics, due to injury, Hanyu withdrew from the public.
    There were rumors circulating that he would not be able to compete, and his non-response caused further criticism and slander from some circles.
    But he returned.

    The third point of view, friends though rivals
    Javier Fernandez

    The two are friends who for a long time have shared the same coach and a friendly rivalry. How does he see Hanyu’s road to recovery, as a main rival for the gold in Pyeonchang?
    A warm friendship that unfolded on the ice, Another Story.

    36:06 Footage of Pooh Rain after Yuzuru’s LP finished.
    On that day, though Hanyu’s performance was complete, it wasn’t certain whether he would get the gold or not. Because, next to skate was this man.
    36:26 Footage of Fernandez taking the ice after Yuzu.
    With dynamic quadruple jumps and steps that earned a higher score than Hanyu’s , though he lost to Hanyu, Javier Fernandez brought the first skating medal to his country Spain.

    37:16 “He took the gold medal, but I was content. Because to compete your best and place third is much better than for everyone to mess up and winning by chance. All this time we’ve trained together, chasing each other. I was really happy that he was able to come back and compete at the highest level because before the Olympics he passed through such a difficult time.”

    37:55 Footage of Toronto
    Hanyu and Fernandez’ deep camaraderie began in Toronto in 2012 when Hanyu joined the Cricket Club where Brian Orser was head coach. Fernandez had joined the year before. He was the senior student.
    “When I heard he was coming (to the club) I was like ‘huh’? At that time we had only met briefly in competition.”
    Orser had a good reputation as a coach after leading Yuna Kim to gold in Vancouver.
    38:42 Footage of Hanyu training with Orser at the Cricket Club
    But that wasn’t the only reason Hanyu chose this place.
    (From Hanyu’s second autobiography Blue Flames II)
    Javier Fernandez’ Quadruple Jump consistency was a big motive. I joined the Cricket Club with an eye for this person, really. When I couldn’t jump and couldn’t visualize it, there is someone nearby who can create that image. With Javier there, I feel like I don’t want to lose.
    “I understand well what Yuzuru is saying. I was the same. When I wanted to do an element, it’s best when you can watch someone nearby who can do it. But it’s not just looking and copying. If he can do it with that speed, I should be able to do it with even more speed. I should be able to do it better. Yuzuru and I would chase each other and improved like that.”

    40:00 The leading figure after the Vancouver Olympics was 3 time consecutive World Champion, Patrick Chan. But Hanyu and Fernandez were close behind in ranking. While working in friendly rivalry at the Cricket Club, they faced the upcoming Sochi Olympics.

    40:25 Sochi Olympics Footage Of Patrick Chan’s LP and Fernandez’ LP, showing the errors made in the LP.
    Hanyu himself, though he took the gold medal, was regretful of his mistakes, and said that the quality was not ideal.
    41:06 “A gold medal isn’t something that comes easy. Yuzuru is strong, it was that competition that made me think that way, deeply. People tend to forget, but that was his first Olympics. (Sochi)
    (Patrick) Chan and I attended 4 years before. The first Olympic rises before you and everything looks so big. Amidst that, Yuzuru performed magnificently. Everyone made mistakes, but though he was a first timer, his performance was the best. The results show it. From now on, he will continue to win, he can’t bear to lose. -This is what I thought.”

    42:03 True to Fernandez’ words, after Sochi, Hanyu continued to be at the top. And desperately chasing his back, was Fernandez.
    42:24 At our training place, we have a place where the names of all the World and Olympic medalists are hung. I always wanted to put my name there. So when I won the World Championships in 2015 for the first time, I went straight there to see it.”
    42:45 Shanghai World Championships 2015
    Fernandez beat Olympic Champion Yuzuru Hanyu and won. Seeing this result, without hesitation, Hanyu had tears in his eyes. It wasn’t just tears of frustration from losing, Fernandez says.
    43:10 “Of course he was sad, he wanted to win. At the same time he was happy for my victory. He said to me, ‘I’m really glad you won. Today, I’m not at the top, but I can see this scenery with you.’ I understood well what he meant. --I think from that time, I truly became friends with Yuzuru”
    43:46 In mutual appreciation, these two went on to astound the world.

    Timeline from 2015
    November NHK Trophy Record score by Hanyu
    2016 European Championship Fernandez also exceeded 300 points
    2016 World Championships Fernandez conquers
    2017 World Championships Hanyu conquers
    In points and in titles, the two are top level.
    The upcoming Pyeongchang Olympics was set as their decisive battle.
    BUT…
    44:47 News clips again of Hanyu’s injury
    The news reached Fernandez, but more than the injury, he was concerned about something else.
     

    Originally Posted by yude

    "In Spain, it is very rare for figure skating to be reported. On the other hand, figure skating is very popular in Japan, too popular. As regards Yuzuru who stands on the top, they were eager to catch him napping and jealousy or lies were everywhere at the time he was injured, just as I thought."

    "Yuzuru is a person who tries insatiably to gain something meaningful from everywhere for his performances. So when he feels down, he feels down thoroughly. I kind of understand they wanted to know the secret of the top athlete and start rumors. But if so, they should have covered him straightforward. Yuzuru himself and his coaches respond to media's requests properly."

    Thank you, Javier

    https://twitter.com/330_43_snow/stat...49263378878464

    (yude did such a good translation, I pasted it in here. I hope you don't mind?)

    46:23 Did you meet with him during that time (rehabilitation)?
    “I did not try to meet him face to face. He would sometimes come to the rink and try to practice, but his injury would hurt right away and he'd stop. We do not talk to each other about our injuries. If Yuzuru asked I would help him with anything, but starting with his mom, he has many people who care for him.
    When you are competing at a high level like we are, what is required is to continue to ‘show each other our backs’ (this is a foreign phrase, I think? The nearest English equivalents seems to be ‘catch me if you can’)
    “Look at my back. See, I’m keeping my level (high). Actually I thought, because he was down, he can make an unbelievable comeback. Yuzuru can make any negatives into a positive in an instant. He’s a human being with that much power.”
    47:25 2014, Grand Prix China, Hanyu had a collision with another skater just before the competition.
    Even severely injured, he went to competition with a bandage wrapped around his head. In the 4 years to Pyeongchang, he experienced an operation, and many injuries, but always returned to the battlefield. With this new injury, the media gave attention to young talents such as Shoma Uno and Nathan Chen as the new medal contenders.

    Q: Before the 2018 Olympics, who was your rival?
    “It is Yuzuru. My rival is only Yuzuru. If I skate my program absolutely perfectly, I can beat Shoma and Nathan. But Yuzuru, even if I perform my program perfectly, he’s always produced higher scores. Always a little higher, a little higher; I could only ever see his back.”

    48:38 2018 Pyeongchang Olympics Men’s Individual Short Program
    Footage of Hanyu and Fernandez entering the arena. (looking very cool )
    Their final battle will begin.

    48:50 Footage of Hanyu’s SP
    49:31 Footage of Fernandez’ Sp

    After the Short Program, Hanyu 1st, Fernandez 2nd. In friendly rivalry, these two who had competed for world titles had their names lined up next to each other.
    50:06 “I thought it would be like that. Everyone was surprised by Yuzuru’s comeback, but I thought he would do it, and that I would be closer than anyone else, chasing his back. ‘Good, isn’t this a great battle?’”
    50:30 Fernandez watches the Free Program.

    Footage of Hanyu’s FP
    “This is my first time to see this. First time. I don’t even watch my own. Performances aren’t to be watched, they are to be shown.”
    Second Half of FP
    “as expected!” (the word is sasuga, but the meaning is not translatable easily)
    Spin and choreo sequence begins
    “He’s enjoying it, you know when you see it. Just like I said, as low as he falls, he comes back (up)”
    Program Ends
    Hanyu scored a seasons best score of above 300.

    53:11 Fernandez begins his FP
    Q: You skated right after Yuzuru, were you influenced by that?
    “No, I wasn’t. There was no way he wouldn’t do a good performance on that stage. So there was no influence. It was time for me to rise to the occasion. That was all.”
    53:48 There was a jump that Fernandez couldn’t complete according to plan, but he finished his performance without any other mistakes.
    54:07 Shoma’s LP ending footage
    He was third after Shoma. He was on the podium with Hanyu Yuzuru.
    Just before the podium the three medalists who were rinkside…
    Javier Fernandez hugged the other two.

    54:35 HUUUUUUGGGGG
    And Fernandez said something that couldn’t be heard.
    54:55 “You are SO BAD!” -from Hanyu, he couldn’t stop crying. What was said was not told till now.
    55:18 Fernandez rewatches the medal ceremony and smiles.
    Q: What did you say here?
    55:25 "First of all, I congratulated Hanyu and Shoma on their performance and their medals. And to Yuzuru I said, ‘I’m proud to have competed against you. This is the last time I will compete with you. I’m going to retire.’ I hadn’t told anyone else yet. I had planned to compete at Euros, but Yuzuru is a Japanese athlete and cannot go to Euros. So this would really be the last competition. I thought it’s now or never, and told him. He told me I’m the worst. Because of the timing. But it was after the best competition. To the person I wanted to tell the most, in the best place, it was really good.”
    59:37 Fernandez officially announced his retirement 9 months later. The news that surprised the world was shared first with the one who contended with him for the Olympic Title. Best rival, best friend. (aaaagh, crying!)

    57:00 Closing words.
    Hanyu Yuzuru, who even other Olympic contenders call the strongest skater, ‘the only one who can surpass Hanyu is Hanyu.’ Who even now will not loosen his grip on the top.
    Even after winning the Olympics consecutively he continues to put pressure on himself. How far will he progress from here?
    57:45 What to expect from Hanyu now? Answers from Plushenko, Button and Fernandez

    Plushenko: When Yuzuru enters a competition, he’s there to win. If Japan will let him concentrate on the Olympics, at least 4 consecutive wins is possible. 5 is not out of the question.

    Button: Hey, who’s saying that?? He’s already exceptional. Let him do whatever he likes.

    Fernandez: First I want him to heal his current injury properly. If his injury heals, then onward and onward as much as he likes. When the time comes to retire, I want him to look back for the first time. Where he’s climbed is a path that will be spoken of forever and somewhere there is my name, I hope he won’t forget.

    59:05 They’ve spoken. So Hanyu, how far will you go?

    END

     

     

     

     

    That is from @Specs at GS and  @Henni147 already posted about it in the previous page.

     

    5 hours ago, Henni147 said:

    @Interspectator from GS has posted a trantranslation of the NHK documentary.

    Thank you very much for this huge effort.

     

    Part I:

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    Another Story NHK Documentary Summary

    Intro: 
    Yuzuru’s LP performance and hug with Javi 
    “How did he achieve the defense (of the Gold) after severe injury and being away from the ice for 4 months? The key to the truth is here in this moment before the Medal Ceremony.” 
    Yuzu, Javi, Shoma hug and Yuzu saying ‘You are so bad!’ “The tears do not stop” 
    “The never before revealed moving story can finally be shown” 
    1:30 Opening Credits
    1:50 How difficult it must be to bring the body and mind to its peak for the once in 4 years Olympics. 
    Kulik, Yagudin, Plushenko, Lysacek who stood at the top of the podium countless times only won the Olympics once. Yuzuru Hanyu is the one who was able to achieve the defense of his Olympic title. 
    2:45 Introduction of Yuzu’s history, starting skating at 4 and wanting to win the Olympics.
    At 19, at the Sochi Olympics he was able win, but didn’t stop there. He had the high, high aim of defending his title. But just before the Peyonchang Olympics he was injured. Some doubted he would be able to compete. But when he stood on the Olympic stage again, in an instant he turned all doubt into excitement. 

    4:29 Feburary 17th, 2018 was a crossroads with destiny. 
    In his first time to skate his LP in competition since his injury four months ago, his quads, his steps, so sharply executed, an astounding performance that made you think he’d never been away, caused oohs and ahhs from not just the Japanese fans, but also the top skaters around the world.
    5:17 Plushenko’s comment
    With this, Yuzuru became the ultimate competitor, the best of the best. 
    5:36 Fernandez’ comment
    He took the gold, but there are no regrets. At the greatest stage, fought with the greatest performance, I’m totally content. 

    5:55 First Point of View: Dick Button
    6:30- The Living Legend, Dick Button, 89 years old, lives in the New York suburbs. What’s this casually lying on his desk? Could it be? 
    “I gave my 1948 medal to my mother, who made a necklace of it. My next Olympic medal I gave to my father, who made it into a paperweight. I’m glad I’ve got two.” 
    What a nice, cheerful Grandpa…or so we thought! 
    “Plushenko?? Amazing technique, but I wish he’d listen to me earlier. His spins were excessive, too many turns. His head stuck out I was sure it would one day spin off onto the ice.” 
    “Kulik? Worst costume ever. Yellow with black dots, you’re not a giraffe! Well, because of that, it can’t be denied that it you couldn’t take your eyes of him.” Laughter. 
    8:28-Dick button was known as an acerbic commentator and he made his opinions known for many years. What would he think of Hanyu who after 66 years matched his record? We nervously asked his opinion and…
    8:46 “The result is an extra, my judging criteria is whether or not the performance has a sense of theatre. Theatre that is original and draws people in.” 
    “Hanyu Yuzuru’s performance was wonderful in that way. It enthralled everyone.” 


    9:26 Dick Button talks about his performance and other great skaters of the past
    “This footage is from my competition in Colorado in 1952. I think I’m skating quite well.” 
    Sharp jumps, centered spins. The worlds first triple jump was landed by Button. 
    10:13 “There’s not enough opportunity for skaters these days to change skating. They are bound by points system, it’s confining and none of the athletes want to try new elements.” 
    Not Hanyu, starting with the 4Lo, he’s implemented never-before done elements. 
    But, Button thinks that their main commonality is unexpected. 
    “What Yuzuru said after the Sochi Olympics left a deep impression on me. He said that he couldn’t skate well. ”
    11:00 Shows clips of Yuzuru’s Sochi LP in which he fell twice. 
    In an interview right after the results were announced he said: 
    “I’m really happy with the results, but I’m also feeling regret. (Kuyashii, frustration) Well, though I say it having won the Olympics, I feel a little regret.”
    Dick Button: 
    “I too, in 1948, my performance was good. I was able to win with a wonderful performance. But the next Olympics 1952, though as an athlete I was at my peak, I fell on a jump, it was the greatest mistake of my life. Even now, I regret it.”
    12:00 Shows time line of Dick Buttons dominance in the sport. From 1948-1952. Won every international competition he entered. 
    12:27 You won your second Gold Medal in 1952, is winning not enough? 
    “No. you ask why? Because I fell. The rules now give you points even when you fail. When that happened, I think figure skating died. 
    Above (or before?) being a sport of points, Figure skating is a sport that engages the audience. An orchestra, if you miss a note, it’s ruined, like ballet when a dancer falls, it’s the same. You mustn’t disappoint the audience, come on! That’s why I was moved by Yuzuru’s words. This young man, he understands!” 
    Hanyu's FCC Press Conference 2014
    “I will devote myself with my whole heart towards the Pyeongchang Olympics in four Years” 
    Hanyu, going forth, to once more achieve Gold with a satisfactory performance…

    13:30 In the four years, young athletes emerged, one after the other. Nathan Chen, Jin Boyang and Uno Shoma. All of them had many quadruple jumps as weapon. 

    14:8 “Quads, quads, so what? This guy that guy, goes after the points like wringing a rag for water. I don’t want to see such ugly things. What I want to see is, for example Janet Lynn. She jumped so lightly; long distance and quiet in landing. That’s a real jump. 
    14:35 Janet Lynn competition footage. 
    15:17 “Do you know who taught her? My exwife! There’s a lot of things between us, but she was a good coach. Janet’s performance is seamless. Everything is controlled, the jumps match the music and are simple. Her skating is quintessential theatre.” 
    “Another that we mustn’t forget is Ito Midori. She was, in a different way from Janet, superb theatre. She commanded attention. No one can jump as high as that.” 
    “And Asada Mao, wasn’t she gorgeous; a movie star on ice, no other athlete could do that performance like she did. But even compared to these famous athletes, Hanyu is extraordinary an exceptional person. 
    He performs like nothing you’ve ever seen before. Performances that, if you miss them you’ll never see again. That’s what has worth. No matter how difficult the element, the skater must make it their own. Doing the same kinds of jumps, there’s no inspiration in mere points.” 

    17:04 A short history of skating and how it started from figures drawn on the ice with skates. 

    Back then performances were one third of a skaters score. Dick Button still pioneered new elements. Triple jumps, and the flying camel spin used to be called Button Camel. 
    17:50 “I did the camel spin to move people’s hearts, to add dynamism to otherwise elegant, effortless skating, to capture attention. 
    Yuzuru can (emotionally) move people beyond points. He was injured before the Olympics, and I just wanted to see him come back. A true skater.” 

    18:18 Dick Button watches Hanyu’s Pyeongchang Prorgram
    News clip of Yuzu’s injury and withdrawal from NHK trophy, arrival at PyeongChang 5 days before competition. 
    Practice footage of Yuzu. Nobody knew how much Yuzuru had recovered
    18:58 Olympics SP footage. 
    19:50 Olympics LP footage. 
    20:17 “The most important point to look at in his jumps is the speed. There’s no change in the speed of the jump when it’s landed compared to when it’s entered. That’s rare in a skater. He doesn’t show off when he’s landed to say ‘look, I’ve landed it!’ When other skaters land a difficult jump there’s a sense of ending. He seamlessly, simply continues the performance. 
    21:06 When Yuzuru overturned his 4T in the second half. 
    “Uh oh, but he did well not to fall. He’s made progress. 
    After the 3Lz
    “He just recovered from injury right? He’s hanging on really well. Honestly, even if he fell once, points-wise, he could still win. But he knows the importance of engaging the audience. 
    22:00 Performance ends, Dick button laughs,
    “He’s satisfied at last. I understand the feeling. That was really wonderful.”
    22:30 Q: How did he change since the last Olympics? 
    “The performance was much more riveting; more simple but more clearly communicating. The points don’t matter. On this great stage(Olympics), he showed the best ‘theatre’. This is beyond Gold, a Diamond grade performance. 



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    Second Point of Veiw: Evgeni Plushenko
    66 years after Dick Button defended his title, Hanyu Yuzuru also won consecutively. But the person who came closest to also achieving this was this person. 
    Evgeni Plushenko the Torino Olympics Gold Medalist. 
    He was a favorite to win in Vancouver, but was beaten by a small margin. He, above all others, knows how hard it is to win consecutively (at the Olympics). Plushenko has been someone who Yuzuru has respected and aspired to for many years. How does he view Hanyu Yuzuru who challenged the consecutive wins that he could not achieve? 
    Another Story from the Figure Skating Emperor. 
    24:04 Footage of Moscow and Evgeni Plushenko at the Plushenko cup, watching young skaters under 10 years old, and his own son compete. 
    “Lots of mistakes, we’ll need to do special training on the camel spin” 
    Strict words for his son, Alexander Plushenko who is 5 years old. There is a reason for this. 
    “This competition is for scouting young talent, and inviting them to get special education at my school. So no matter who it is, we are strict from this stage. At this point the goal is to defeat Hanyu Yuzuru. To raise an athlete that will surpass him.” 

    25:34 Debuting in Seniors in 1997, for 20 years till his retirement in 2017, the emperor, Plushenko, trained on the ice. Hanyu strongly admired him, and when he was a child, even copied his hairstyle. 
    “I first met him when he was about 10. At a show in Japan. This kid really admires you. I was astonished at first sight. His spins were good. But he was so thin. If he was built up, he could get good results, I thought. But I didn’t have an inkling that he’d go on to win two Olympic Golds.”
    26:31 Plushenko’s timeline, the 4 Olympics he attended. 2 Individual silvers, 1 gold, 1 team gold. 

    12 years difference between Plushenko and Hanyu. Their first opportunity to skate against each other was at the Sochi Olympics. 
    Three and a half years before that, Hanyu, who debuted as a Senior at 15…

    Footage of Hanyu’s NHK2010 performance and the Quad Toe he landed. 
    Footage of 2012 LP at NHK where he won

    27:40 “He’s climbing, I thought. A great rival for Sochi has been made. No matter how long you know someone, on the rink, they are the enemy. If it’s him (Hanyu) it will be a worthy victory.” (The word is taoshigai. Not sure about this translation) 

    28:05 There is a reason behind Plushenko’s excitement at Hanyu’s arrival, it goes back to the previous Olympics and a great disappointment. 
    28:16 Footage of Plushenko at the Vancouver Olympics
    Previously, Plushenko, who had won the Olympics at Torino attempted the defense of his title, which would have been the first in 58 years. He was confident that he had won, but by a mere point he did not reach the consecutive win. 
    28:30 “At Vancouver I was injured all over. It was a miracle I was able to compete at all. It’s frustrating that I lost, and I am unhappy with the scoring. But If I had not competed there, it would have been a worse competition. At that time, there weren’t many competitors, and they’d retire quickly, when they could have skated more. More than my disappointment in losing, I was disappointed that rivals to compete with were getting fewer and fewer. 
    29:25 Plushenko won Olympic Silver twice. The athletes that took gold, Yagudin and Lysacek did not attempt to defend their title, but left the competitive stage. 
    29:40 “It’s not like I don’t understand those who retire. When you get to the level where you compete for medals, it’s extremely tough to maintain. Getting fed up with the suffering, those who medal at the Olympics and Worlds choose to retire. When they skate in shows, they introduce you as so-and-so, the medalist. Because of that, the level of competition at the Olympics gets lowered. You’re quitting too, and you? That was frustrating.” 
    30:12 Because of this, when the strong rival Yuzuru Hanyu appeared, Plushenko was encouraged. 
    "How to beat him (Hanyu) on the ice, to shock him, to knock him down, that’s all I thought about” 
    30:41 From this glaring fighting spirit, Hanyu responded with all his might. 
    (From Hanyu’s first autobiography, Blue Flames) 
    I don’t know if I can surpass him. But no matter how high a level I go to, having other strong competitors fires me up. I want to be that person to Plushenko, ‘a person who fires you up’ even if only a little, I want to get closer to being that (person). 

    31:15 Sochi Olympics, 2014, their wishes were not granted. 
    “The bolt that was supporting my lower back came loose at practice before the competition. Never before have I felt such pain. Performing was impossible.” 
    31:50 Footage of Plushenko withdrawing
    31:56 Footage of Hanyu receiving the gold medal at Sochi 
    32:11 “When Yuzuru won the gold in Sochi and said he wouldn’t retire, and would go to the next (Olympics) I was jumping with joy. Even if I left, he would continue to compete and the greatest competition, the Olympics would maintain its high level. Yuzuru knows the best performances can only be done in competition and there is no greater joy than becoming the Olympic Champion.” 
    32:39 Hanyu received the baton from Plushenko and started for the Pyeonchang Olympics. In the 4 years that came between, younger athletes appeared, but whenever he was asked about it Plushenko always answered ‘the contender for gold is Hanyu’. 
    32:57 “ A lot of times, competitors mess up, and the Olympics gives a special kind of nerves or adrenaline. Having won gold once, puts you ahead. The important thing is not the elements, but experience and confidence. And the only one who had both was Yuzuru. Even now, having won consecutively, he hasn’t stopped evolving. The top athletes are the greediest, there’s no way they’ll lose. I know from personal experience how hard it is to win consecutively, but if anyone was going to do it in the whole world, it would be Yuzuru. That’s why I know at that Olympics, if Yuzuru could make it there, there was no way he wouldn’t win.” (literal translation ‘if he can just stand in that place’)
    34:00 If he can just make it there…we now know that Plushenko’s prophecy came true, but up till that moment, we didn’t know if he could stand. 



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    News article of injury at NHK trophy
    A serious right ankle injury Hanyu had to contend with. 
    A great support to him during that time was fellow gold medal rival, this man: 
    Javier Fernandez
    34:47
    Just before the Olympics, due to injury, Hanyu withdrew from the public. 
    There were rumors circulating that he would not be able to compete, and his non-response caused further criticism and slander from some circles. 
    But he returned.

    The third point of view, friends though rivals 
    Javier Fernandez

    The two are friends who for a long time have shared the same coach and a friendly rivalry. How does he see Hanyu’s road to recovery, as a main rival for the gold in Pyeonchang? 
    A warm friendship that unfolded on the ice, Another Story. 

    36:06 Footage of Pooh Rain after Yuzuru’s LP finished. 
    On that day, though Hanyu’s performance was complete, it wasn’t certain whether he would get the gold or not. Because, next to skate was this man. 
    36:26 Footage of Fernandez taking the ice after Yuzu. 
    With dynamic quadruple jumps and steps that earned a higher score than Hanyu’s , though he lost to Hanyu, Javier Fernandez brought the first skating medal to his country Spain. 

    37:16 “He took the gold medal, but I was content. Because to compete your best and place third is much better than for everyone to mess up and winning by chance. All this time we’ve trained together, chasing each other. I was really happy that he was able to come back and compete at the highest level because before the Olympics he passed through such a difficult time.”

    37:55 Footage of Toronto
    Hanyu and Fernandez’ deep camaraderie began in Toronto in 2012 when Hanyu joined the Cricket Club where Brian Orser was head coach. Fernandez had joined the year before. He was the senior student. 
    “When I heard he was coming (to the club) I was like ‘huh’? At that time we had only met briefly in competition.” 
    Orser had a good reputation as a coach after leading Yuna Kim to gold in Vancouver. 
    38:42 Footage of Hanyu training with Orser at the Cricket Club
    But that wasn’t the only reason Hanyu chose this place. 
    (From Hanyu’s second autobiography Blue Flames II) 
    Javier Fernandez’ Quadruple Jump consistency was a big motive. I joined the Cricket Club with an eye for this person, really. When I couldn’t jump and couldn’t visualize it, there is someone nearby who can create that image. With Javier there, I feel like I don’t want to lose. 
    “I understand well what Yuzuru is saying. I was the same. When I wanted to do an element, it’s best when you can watch someone nearby who can do it. But it’s not just looking and copying. If he can do it with that speed, I should be able to do it with even more speed. I should be able to do it better. Yuzuru and I would chase each other and improved like that.” 

    40:00 The leading figure after the Vancouver Olympics was 3 time consecutive World Champion, Patrick Chan. But Hanyu and Fernandez were close behind in ranking. While working in friendly rivalry at the Cricket Club, they faced the upcoming Sochi Olympics. 

    40:25 Sochi Olympics Footage Of Patrick Chan’s LP and Fernandez’ LP, showing the errors made in the LP. 
    Hanyu himself, though he took the gold medal, was regretful of his mistakes, and said that the quality was not ideal. 
    41:06 “A gold medal isn’t something that comes easy. Yuzuru is strong, it was that competition that made me think that way, deeply. People tend to forget, but that was his first Olympics. (Sochi) 
    (Patrick) Chan and I attended 4 years before. The first Olympic rises before you and everything looks so big. Amidst that, Yuzuru performed magnificently. Everyone made mistakes, but though he was a first timer, his performance was the best. The results show it. From now on, he will continue to win, he can’t bear to lose. -This is what I thought.” 

    42:03 True to Fernandez’ words, after Sochi, Hanyu continued to be at the top. And desperately chasing his back, was Fernandez. 
    42:24 At our training place, we have a place where the names of all the World and Olympic medalists are hung. I always wanted to put my name there. So when I won the World Championships in 2015 for the first time, I went straight there to see it.” 
    42:45 Shanghai World Championships 2015
    Fernandez beat Olympic Champion Yuzuru Hanyu and won. Seeing this result, without hesitation, Hanyu had tears in his eyes. It wasn’t just tears of frustration from losing, Fernandez says. 
    43:10 “Of course he was sad, he wanted to win. At the same time he was happy for my victory. He said to me, ‘I’m really glad you won. Today, I’m not at the top, but I can see this scenery with you.’ I understood well what he meant. --I think from that time, I truly became friends with Yuzuru” 
    43:46 In mutual appreciation, these two went on to astound the world. 

    Timeline from 2015
    November NHK Trophy Record score by Hanyu
    2016 European Championship Fernandez also exceeded 300 points
    2016 World Championships Fernandez conquers
    2017 World Championships Hanyu conquers
    In points and in titles, the two are top level. 
    The upcoming PyeongChang Olympics was set as their decisive battle.
    BUT…
    44:47 News clips again of Hanyu’s injury 
    The news reached Fernandez, but more than the injury, he was concerned about something else. 
     

     [Originally Posted by yude]

    "In Spain, it is very rare for figure skating to be reported. On the other hand, figure skating is very popular in Japan, too popular. As regards Yuzuru who stands on the top, they were eager to catch him napping and jealousy or lies were everywhere at the time he was injured, just as I thought."

    "Yuzuru is a person who tries insatiably to gain something meaningful from everywhere for his performances. So when he feels down, he feels down thoroughly. I kind of understand they wanted to know the secret of the top athlete and start rumors. But if so, they should have covered him straightforward. Yuzuru himself and his coaches respond to media's requests properly."

    46:23 Did you meet with him during that time (rehabilitation)? 
    “I did not try to meet him face to face. He would sometimes come to the rink and try to practice, but his injury would hurt right away and he'd stop. We do not talk to each other about our injuries. If Yuzuru asked I would help him with anything, but starting with his mom, he has many people who care for him. 
    When you are competing at a high level like we are, what is required is to continue to ‘show each other our backs’ (this is a foreign phrase, I think? The nearest English equivalents seems to be ‘catch me if you can’)
    “Look at my back. See, I’m keeping my level (high). Actually I thought, because he was down, he can make an unbelievable comeback. Yuzuru can make any negatives into a positive in an instant. He’s a human being with that much power.”
    47:25 2014, Grand Prix China, Hanyu had a collision with another skater just before the competition. 
    Even severely injured, he went to competition with a bandage wrapped around his head. In the 4 years to PyeongChang, he experienced an operation, and many injuries, but always returned to the battlefield. With this new injury, the media gave attention to young talents such as Shoma Uno and Nathan Chen as a new medal contenders.

    Q: Before the 2018 Olympics, who was your rival? 
    “It is Yuzuru. My rival is only Yuzuru. If I skate my program absolutely perfectly, I can beat Shoma and Nathan. But Yuzuru, even if I perform my program perfectly, he’s always produced higher scores. Always a little higher, a little higher; I could only ever see his back.”

    48:38 2018 Pyeongchang Olympics Men’s Individual Short Program
    Footage of Hanyu and Fernandez entering the arena. (looking very cool )
    Their final battle will begin.

    48:50 Footage of Hanyu’s SP
    49:31 Footage of Fernandez’ Sp

    After the Short Program, Hanyu 1st, Fernandez 2nd. In friendly rivalry, these two who had competed for world titles had their names lined up next to each other. 
    50:06 “I thought it would be like that. Everyone was surprised by Yuzuru’s comeback, but I thought he would do it, and that I would be closer than anyone else, chasing his back. ‘Good, isn’t this a great battle?’”
    50:30 Fernandez watches the Free Program.

    Footage of Hanyu’s FP 
    “This is my first time to see this. First time. I don’t even watch my own. Performances aren’t to be watched, they are to be shown.”
    Second Half of FP
    “as expected!” (the word is sasuga, but the meaning is not translatable easily)
    Spin and choreo sequence begins
    “He’s enjoying it, you know when you see it. Just like I said, as low as he falls, he comes back (up)”
    Program Ends
    Hanyu scored a seasons best score of above 300. 

    53:11 Fernandez begins his FP 
    Q: You skated right after Yuzuru, were you influenced by that?
    “No, there wasn’t. There was no way he wouldn’t do a good performance on that stage. So there was no influence. It was time for me to rise to the occasion. That was all.” 
    53:48 There was a jump that Fernandez couldn’t complete according to plan, but he finished his performance without any other mistakes. 
    54:07 Shoma’s LP ending footage 
    He was third after Shoma. He was on the podium with Hanyu Yuzuru. 
    Just before the podium the three medalists who were rinkside…
    Javier Fernandez hugged the other two. 

    54:35 HUUUUUUGGGGG
    And Fernandez said something that couldn’t be heard. 
    54:55 “You are SO BAD!” -from Hanyu, he couldn’t stop crying. What was said was not told till now. 
    55:18 Fernandez rewatches the medal ceremony and smiles. 
    Q: What did you say here? 
    55:25 "First of all, I congratulated Hanyu and Shoma on their performance and their medals. And to Yuzuru I said, ‘I’m proud to have competed against you. This is the last time I will compete with you. I’m going to retire.’ I hadn’t told anyone else yet. I had planned to compete at Euros, but Yuzuru is a Japanese athlete and cannot go to Euros. So this would really be the last competition. I thought it’s now or never, and told him. He told me I’m the worst. Because of the timing. But it was after the best competition. To the person I wanted to tell the most, in the best place, it was really good.”
    59:37 Fernandez officially announced his retirement 9 months later. The news that surprised the world was shared first with the one who contended with him for the Olympic Title. Best rival, best friend. (aaaagh, crying!) 

    57:00 Closing words. 
    Hanyu Yuzuru, who even other Olympic contenders call the strongest skater, ‘the only one who can beat Hanyu is Hanyu.’ Who even now will no loosen his grip on the top. 
    Even after winning the Olympics consecutively he continues to put pressure on himself. How far will he progress from here? 
    57:45 What to expect from Hanyu now? Answers from Plushenko, Button and Fernandez 
    Plushenko: When Yuzuru enters a competition, he’s there to win. If Japan will let him concentrate on the Olympics, at least 4 consecutive wins is possible. 5 is not out of the question. 
    Button: Hey, who’s saying that?? He’s already exceptional. Let him do whatever he likes. 
    Fernandez: First I want him to heal his current injury properly. If his injury heals, then onward and onward as much as he likes. When the time comes to retire, I want him to look back for the first time. Where he’s climbed is a path that will be spoken of forever and somewhere there is my name, I hope he won’t forget. 

    59:05 They’ve spoken. So Hanyu, how far will you go? 

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    1 hour ago, algtd said:

    It's not the 1st time I find miki Ando being a bit... Unpleasant.

     

    Check this interview vid from faoi 2018 (source BlueFlame YouTube) at 5:56 : miki Ando is not very nice to yuzuru and it makes him a bit uncomfortable...

     

    She sees him with "ear plugs" wth. Putting him in a position of a loner. She could talk to him x) 

     

     

     

    I... don't see any issue with what she said, at all? Come on, it's just reaching in this case. Give me real shade a la 'needs to work on his crossrolls' or something. 

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    Yuzuru was interviewed by "Shinken zemi", a correspondence education system using postal/parcel delivery service.

    @yude at GS translated it and you can find it here

    https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?74832-Yuzuru-Hanyu-2018-2019&p=2286858&viewfull=1#post2286858

     

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    This studying style of "narrowing down what I do" stayed the same before the exams of the semester. However, my time for studying had been very very limited so I started to take measures three weeks earlier than the exams, a little earlier than everybody. I mainly worked on <teiki test yosoumondaishu> and other practice questions, and I read descriptions carefully if I couldn't understand something. Repeatedly I tried the problems I couldn't solve and decreased what I didn't understand. In this way, I was able to reach my goal "always score higher than 90"."

     

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    1 hour ago, Forcefield said:

    Whether she was aware it was Yuzu or not, she did take and upload a snip of skaters on the ice, and from above as well. Unless she specifically knew someone or the person she focused the camera on and asked, it was without the rest of the skaters' permission. We don't know the SNS rules at TCC obviously and she doesn't deserve the huge backlash but well for me this isn't only about whether she "knew it's Yuzu or not".

     

    We don't know the rules so for all she knew she could film that snippet. 

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    26 minutes ago, Xen said:

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    That aside...I sprain my left ankle and tore ligaments too. After about 4 weeks, roughly where Yuzu is now, I was also back on ice, but only doing stroking and gliding, and doing anything more did mean pain. It was necessary otherwise recovery of spins and jumps would be more difficult since the "feeling" of being on ice would be worse. But no, it was no where near jumping and spinning and complex footwork, and it no where means Yuzu is in competitive condition. He's got at least another month or at least half a month to go before he can start any jumping. 

     

    (my only concern is, boy isn't back on pain killers is he?)

     

     

    He was obviously stroking slowly and carefully, testing the ice and the feel on his ankle, so if anyone looks at this video and decides to think 'ah, he was lying to skip Nationals!' then they're just dumb and I couldn't care less about their narratives. This is obviously part of on-ice rehab.

     

    By the way, he was also back to the ice last December after his injury but the pain continued so he apparently didn't go back on ice after that until early January. 

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    9 hours ago, Old Cat Lady said:

     

    The difference in PCS is a methodology difference  - I substituted clean SP PCS for FS PCS.  I figured let's be honest, judges give skaters, not programs, PCS scores, which is why Nathan can literally double the number of crossovers throughout the season and the PCS continues to rise.

     

    It looks like you also differentiated SP and FS scores whereas I used the highest element score between both and plugged it into all like elements.

     

    Looks like I made a mistake with Shoma.  Plugged in the wrong number for 4t/3t (edited above) and I took his JPN Open score for 3a/e/3f and 3s/3t.

     

     

    Yeah, I used only the best GOE across competitions per segment, so even if Shoma's best 4F score was in his FS, I only used his best GOE for the 4F in his SPs for that segment. Since both segments are different beasts, I like to differentiate. I also tend to choose GOE only for jumps done in the second half only from that second half, even when they've been done them in previous layouts in the first half, but I fudged it a bit with Yuzu's 4T because his only solo second half 4T was an underrotated mess and I didn't have any other values to go off on. 

     

    I'm finishing off the ladies, just want to add in two junior girls in the mix first. 

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    It's not confirmed by JSF yet, only speculation given the time frame of his recovery. Either way, I don't think it'll be a surprise if he WDs from Nationals. He doesn't have time to prepare for it even if his rehab goes well. And we really don't need him hurrying up practice.

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    2 hours ago, Forcefield said:

     

    Someone said it (maybe it was TSL, Skate Talk Online, or In the Loop) that Yuzu was looking so great early and seemed set to peak at GPF as his usual like GPF 15-16 season so perhaps this is the only silver lining as it forces him to reset. Basically if he gets the care and rest he needs, and the training in, expect Yuzu to come roaring at Worlds. Not much of a consolation but still. :tumblr_m9gcvqToXY1qzckow:

     

    It was TSL and I despise them for it. Saying this was 'a blessing in disguise' to prevent him from peaking at GPF reveals a lack of sensitivity and empathy. Not, it really wasn't a blessing in disguise. Getting injured is never a blessing. Peaking at GPF is NOT worse than 3 weeks rest and a month of rehab and a busted ankle that may never recover fully. 

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    52 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

     

    This is very talked about in football. All of the football fans I know (consider 98% of my country's population) say that the sport has changed - that the games were different 20-30 years ago because the whistle wasn't blown every 5 seconds for a foul or a fall or a fight between two or more players. I agree, the games did change. But I'd argue that it isn't because masculinity is lost, but because a lot of things have been lost, among which is definitely fairness and no-politics during the game. Instead of committing to be the best player you can be, you will take advantage of every possible time it seems like someone did you wrong. 

    So I understand why coaches and sportsmen will look at Yuzuru and find a quality that is very lacking nowadays in other sports (or even the same sport lol). It's playing fair. Yuzuru plays fair. 

     

    These are different issues altogether, though. Football has degenerated into a who whines or fakes the most on the field fest, yes, but that is different from what Jack implies about athletes who beg off competing at the 'slightest' hint of an injury and how back then men were more 'manly' and 'tough' and competed with injuries because otherwise was 'weak'.

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    6 minutes ago, ralucutzagy said:

     

     

    Warning for toxic masculinity and author asshole-ish-ness. As much as I admire Yuzuru and understand his choice to skate at Rostelecom and think him courageous, skating while injured is NOT something to be encouraged and Jack is out there basically calling everyone a coward for not doing so because men should be manly tough men and brave through pain...

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    36 minutes ago, makebelieveup said:

     

    has this been shared? ok so 4T3A in first half is nothing special according to him:1:

     

    He hasn't done a FS layout with a combo in the first half in years, it's not now he's starting, apparently. :xD:

    When will Yuzu land 4A

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    Seeing the relative state of Dmitriev's 4A attempts, I could see Keegan probably getting the 4A faster than Dmitriev even if the only attempts of his we've seen have been on an harness. However, Dmitriev has all the time and opportunity in the world to train it, while Yuzuru and Keegan actually have to concentrate on not killing themselves and medaling at their competitions.

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